Alko Wheel Lock ??

[maltins0]

Hi All , Anyone able to help , I bought a secondhand Ace Award caravan with I was told a Alko wheel lock worth £150 , when I came to fit the lock I found the lock insert supplied with the van is a number 16 , but the van needs a number 5 according to Alko site , Thats straight forward enough but Searching around most bolts that go into the receiver seem to have a pattern similar to what I have drawn but my bolts have the pattern shown in pic, So Are These Alko Or A Different Make ? Many Thanks Malc

 

[MikeyW]

I've had two different caravans with Alko locks and both were similar pattern to your drawing. Not sure if the bolt in your photo is Alko or not but if you get the correct number 5 lozenge you may find it will fit anyway, if it fitted the number 16 lozenge. As far as I know you can use any Alko bolt and lock, it's just the lozenge that changes to fit different style wheels.

 

[otherclive]

The red lozenge clamp that fits into the wheel is specific to a particular design of alloy. But the bolt with the security head and lock will fit any lozenge. Your picture shows a matched bolt that goes into the chassis receiver and it’s tightening piece. The lock itself then fits in after you have inserted and tightened ( gently and not over tight) the security bolt into the receiver. Your hand drawn sketch looks like the lock itself which is locked by use of a Lowe Fletcher key.

 

[Buckman]

TBH I didn't know that the Ace Award caravan could be fitted with ALKO locks! If bought from a dealer, get the dealer to supply the correct lock as it was part of the deal.

 

[maltins0]

The red lozenge clamp that fits into the wheel is specific to a particular design of alloy. But the bolt with the security head and lock will fit any lozenge. Your picture shows a matched bolt that goes into the chassis receiver and it’s tightening piece. The lock itself then fits in after you have inserted and tightened ( gently and not over tight) the security bolt into the receiver. Your hand drawn sketch looks like the lock itself which is locked by use of a Lowe Fletcher key.

Hi Thank You , My drawing was copied from a friends matched bolt which goes into his receiver , and most for sale on ebay , Marketplace etc seem to have same as his rather than the one I have

 

[maltins0]

TBH I didn't know that the Ace Award caravan could be fitted with ALKO locks! If bought from a dealer, get the dealer to supply the correct lock as it was part of the deal.

Bought Privately so that unfortunately is not an option

 

[maltins0]

I've had two different caravans with Alko locks and both were similar pattern to your drawing. Not sure if the bolt in your photo is Alko or not but if you get the correct number 5 lozenge you may find it will fit anyway, if it fitted the number 16 lozenge. As far as I know you can use any Alko bolt and lock, it's just the lozenge that changes to fit different style wheels.

Thank You Yes I thought that may be the case , I have now discovered that the reciever fitted to the hub has never been used still has the metal screw thing in there , there is the remains of a silver sticker but its ripped so dont know what was printed on it other than I can see Alko name grr

 

[Hutch]

You might be able to get an engineer to remove the sheared off bolt. Cost you a few Pounds but then you can use the Alko wheel lock.

 

[maltins0]

You might be able to get an engineer to remove the sheared off bolt. Cost you a few Pounds but then you can use the Alko wheel lock.

Is that what it is a sheared of bolt ? Somewhere else said that Alko fitted these to caravans from 2008 because of bulldog bringing out a lock which would fit in thier reciever and only way to get tool to remove it was to order a new alko wheel lock and give them code that was on silver sticker which has been torn on my van

 

[Hutch]

Is that what it is a sheared of bolt ? Somewhere else said that Alko fitted these to caravans from 2008 because of bulldog bringing out a lock which would fit in thier reciever and only way to get tool to remove it was to order a new alko wheel lock and give them code that was on silver sticker which has been torn on my van

Without a photo of the bolt /reciever unit, it is still just a guess.

 

[Buckman]

Did the Ace Award have an ALKO or BPW Chassis?

 

[Raywood]

I would say it was ALKO although the year is not shown. In recent years only Eldiss have used BPW and it has to be fairly recent to have the receiver for the wheel lock.

 

[Buckman]

I would say it was ALKO although the year is not shown. In recent years only Eldiss have used BPW and it has to be fairly recent to have the receiver for the wheel lock.

I think the receivers were introduced around 2007-2008?

 

[maltins0]

Did the Ace Award have an ALKO or BPW Chassis?

Alko Definately

 

[maltins0]

I would say it was ALKO although the year is not shown. In recent years only Eldiss have used BPW and it has to be fairly recent to have the receiver for the wheel lock.

Sorry Didnt Realise i missed Caravan's Year Off Its A 2008 Model

 

[maltins0]

Without a photo of the bolt /reciever unit, it is still just a guess.

First Pic front Of receiver Second sticker On rear Of Receiver

 

[Hutch]

Now thats interesting, Definintly Alko. NOT a sheared off bolt. You will have to contact Alko. A real grunt could remove it, BUT.

 

[maltins0]

Now thats interesting, Definintly Alko. NOT a sheared off bolt. You will have to contact Alko. A real grunt could remove it, BUT.

Hi , I have already emailed Alko but only had an aknowledgement reply so far will wait n see if theu reply Thanks

 

[Buckman]

Hi , I have already emailed Alko but only had an aknowledgement reply so far will wait n see if theu reply Thanks

Be aware that as the lock is not registered to you, more than likely they will for obvious reasons refuse to help.

 

[otherclive]

Be aware that as the lock is not registered to you, more than likely they will for obvious reasons refuse to help.

Lets hope that the previous owners did not bother with registering the L&F barrel lock. But as a fall back new barrel locks can be purchased. I bought a pre owned but had it delivered to a friends address miles from where we lived.

 

[maltins0]

Be aware that as the lock is not registered to you, more than likely they will for obvious reasons refuse to help.

Hi yes this is What I am sort of expecting (but as that particular lock is no longer available from them they should help but probably won't)

 

[maltins0]

Lets hope that the previous owners did not bother with registering the L&F barrel lock. But as a fall back new barrel locks can be purchased. I bought a pre owned but had it delivered to a friends address miles from where we lived.

As The original blocking bolt is still in there along with the silver sticker with code on (Albeit torn) I doubt this was registered ever

 

[Hutch]

Show the photos to a car/caravan engineer, its easy to remove the bolt. A multi pin Socket will remove it.

https://www.amazon.co.uk/FIX-Universal-Multi-Function-Self-Adjusts-Professional/dp/B085DBQ93L/ref=asc_df_B085DBQ93L/?tag=googshopuk-21&linkCode=df0&hvadid=430973451335&hvpos=&hvnetw=g&hvrand=234711057443148315&hvpone=&hvptwo=&hvqmt=&hvdev=t&hvdvcmdl=&hvlocint=&hvlocphy=1006933&hvtargid=pla-908000583025&psc=1&tag=&ref=&adgrpid=97419444862&hvpone=&hvptwo=&hvadid=430973451335&hvpos=&hvnetw=g&hvrand=234711057443148315&hvqmt=&hvdev=t&hvdvcmdl=&hvlocint=&hvlocphy=1006933&hvtargid=pla-908000583025

 

[maltins0]

Show the photos to a car/caravan engineer, its easy to remove the bolt. A multi pin Socket will remove it.

https://www.amazon.co.uk/FIX-Universal-Multi-Function-Self-Adjusts-Professional/dp/B085DBQ93L/ref=asc_df_B085DBQ93L/?tag=googshopuk-21&linkCode=df0&hvadid=430973451335&hvpos=&hvnetw=g&hvrand=234711057443148315&hvpone=&hvptwo=&hvqmt=&hvdev=t&hvdvcmdl=&hvlocint=&hvlocphy=1006933&hvtargid=pla-908000583025&psc=1&tag=&ref=&adgrpid=97419444862&hvpone=&hvptwo=&hvadid=430973451335&hvpos=&hvnetw=g&hvrand=234711057443148315&hvqmt=&hvdev=t&hvdvcmdl=&hvlocint=&hvlocphy=1006933&hvtargid=pla-908000583025

Hi just had wheel off to have a look heres a pic of offending bolt , I like the look of that tool you posted link too thank You

 

[Hutch]

The security people are very good with these. The outside of the sockets might be too big. I WILl not say it will work,, but it might. Talk to a caravan engineer, they will have come across this before.