Thanks Dustydog. Its an '08 Series 6 Monarch. It had occurred before, during warranty and Chipping Sodbury had dealt with it. Just had a NCC approved mobile service and the ingress was found then. Bloomin' annoying really, but at least nice Bailey man has compromised with me and have agreed to send replacement seals and pot shelf foc . Its amazing to watch the rain seep thru' 'tween window and rubber at its lowest point, just by the window catch, but how does it get in past the seal ! The only thing I can see that may cause it is the join in the seal is mid-way on the bottom slope of the window?