My wife and I have just bought a new Bailey Pageant Caravan. I am worried about securing it at home. This is our 1st tourer after changing from a camper. I would like some advice on what to use to stop the caravan ending up in a different country. I know what sort of thing I need but not sure whos products are the best.
Brandnew caravan but what security should I have.
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You may find your insurance company may insist on specific minimum security e.g. hitchlock and wheelclamp.
For a guide to mannufacturers and what is the best it might be worth taking a look at www.soldsecure.com , who independently assess and grade security products.
For a guide to mannufacturers and what is the best it might be worth taking a look at www.soldsecure.com , who independently assess and grade security products.
Agree with Rob-T, but then I would as I'm also a Rob T.
The first stop must be the insurance company requirements which are sure to include a hitchlock and Wheelclamp and it seems sold secure endorsment is the standard.
I beleive many policies like the to see a hitch / security post if the caravan is kept at home and I imagine the heavier duty the better. RSJ in a cubic meter of concrete should do it, but then youd never get the van out
Locking wheel bolts on Alloys, some Bailey wheels have small bolt heads, It took months to get the correct size for my 2007 Senator, even my dealer had no idea that standard Milenco (SAS) wouldn't fit. Towsure eventually sorted by talking to Milenco(sas) but they couldn't supply the correct size and I had to talk to Milenco directly. (Milenco one L). The Milenco bolts look far better than some other cheaper brans.
Does the Pageant have a Built in alarm?, may be worth considering, perhaps with intruder, tilt and even hitch alarm as installed by Bailey on the Senator, or I'm sure there are cheaper options.
Bl..dy big hungry dog chained to tow hitch, suggested brand - Rottweiler!
Rob
The first stop must be the insurance company requirements which are sure to include a hitchlock and Wheelclamp and it seems sold secure endorsment is the standard.
I beleive many policies like the to see a hitch / security post if the caravan is kept at home and I imagine the heavier duty the better. RSJ in a cubic meter of concrete should do it, but then youd never get the van out
Locking wheel bolts on Alloys, some Bailey wheels have small bolt heads, It took months to get the correct size for my 2007 Senator, even my dealer had no idea that standard Milenco (SAS) wouldn't fit. Towsure eventually sorted by talking to Milenco(sas) but they couldn't supply the correct size and I had to talk to Milenco directly. (Milenco one L). The Milenco bolts look far better than some other cheaper brans.
Does the Pageant have a Built in alarm?, may be worth considering, perhaps with intruder, tilt and even hitch alarm as installed by Bailey on the Senator, or I'm sure there are cheaper options.
Bl..dy big hungry dog chained to tow hitch, suggested brand - Rottweiler!
Rob
I have planned to have a wheel clamp, hitchlock and security post that the van hitches onto, like the type the dealers have on there forecourts. We live in a very nice part of the country in a small town, I have never heard of any cars or caravans getting stolen from round here. Although I would sleep a little better knowing I have good security on my caravan. Maybe an alarm with tilt sensor too.Agree with Rob-T, but then I would as I'm also a Rob T.
The first stop must be the insurance company requirements which are sure to include a hitchlock and Wheelclamp and it seems sold secure endorsment is the standard.
I beleive many policies like the to see a hitch / security post if the caravan is kept at home and I imagine the heavier duty the better. RSJ in a cubic meter of concrete should do it, but then youd never get the van out
Locking wheel bolts on Alloys, some Bailey wheels have small bolt heads, It took months to get the correct size for my 2007 Senator, even my dealer had no idea that standard Milenco (SAS) wouldn't fit. Towsure eventually sorted by talking to Milenco(sas) but they couldn't supply the correct size and I had to talk to Milenco directly. (Milenco one L). The Milenco bolts look far better than some other cheaper brans.
Does the Pageant have a Built in alarm?, may be worth considering, perhaps with intruder, tilt and even hitch alarm as installed by Bailey on the Senator, or I'm sure there are cheaper options.
Bl..dy big hungry dog chained to tow hitch, suggested brand - Rottweiler!
Rob
If anyone has any ideas on the above security devises please let me know.
My insurance only requires a hitchlock and wheelclamp.
Hi Tug
I share your concern about security. For me, the most secure method is -
1. Alko wheel lock. You've got alloys so you should be able to get one fitted (I think!);
2. Good quality hitchlock - Alko make one of these too;
3. Keep the van on a CASSOA site - preferably Silver or Gold standard. My site has CCTV, two electronically operated security gates and alarms.
I feel confident that my van is secure - but hey - if the buggers want to get to it, they will, no matter where it is or how it's secured.
Trouble is - it's an expensive game! But then your van was expensive and you want to look after it. Pay the extra and rest easy.
Mac
I share your concern about security. For me, the most secure method is -
1. Alko wheel lock. You've got alloys so you should be able to get one fitted (I think!);
2. Good quality hitchlock - Alko make one of these too;
3. Keep the van on a CASSOA site - preferably Silver or Gold standard. My site has CCTV, two electronically operated security gates and alarms.
I feel confident that my van is secure - but hey - if the buggers want to get to it, they will, no matter where it is or how it's secured.
Trouble is - it's an expensive game! But then your van was expensive and you want to look after it. Pay the extra and rest easy.
Mac
I have been into the dealers today and bought an Alko hitchlock and a Superclamp Gold wheel clamp. Both sold secure approved. Although this is as much as the insurance require, I would like to also have an alarm with tilt sensor fitted. I was big into security back in the day of hot hatch cars. I had a Clifford on my XR2 with the option of external and internal triple air horns. I would like this in an alarm as no one takes any notice of an alarm going off, unless is loud enough to distrub there eastenders.
Will make some calls in the morning to see who does this with there alarms.
Parksy
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Hi Tug
Good luck with the new caravan. I'm not certain but I would have thought that a brand new Bailey Pageant would have a factory fitted alarm system anyway, it might be worth ringing your dealers to check before buying.
Another security tip is that when you go touring, if you stop at a motorway service area never leave your caravan completely unattended, even with the locks in place.
Theives target these areas, and they could remove any security locks that are fitted and be away with your caravan before you know it.
Good luck with the new caravan. I'm not certain but I would have thought that a brand new Bailey Pageant would have a factory fitted alarm system anyway, it might be worth ringing your dealers to check before buying.
Another security tip is that when you go touring, if you stop at a motorway service area never leave your caravan completely unattended, even with the locks in place.
Theives target these areas, and they could remove any security locks that are fitted and be away with your caravan before you know it.
Bailey do not come with an alarm as standard as far as I know.
I used to work for Leicestershire Police recovering stolen vehicles and well aware of how the lowlife operate. I recovered many caravans that had been stolen off the back of cars and take my word for it, you would not want them back. I am quite upto date with the latest security as I am also a motorbiker and protecting these takes a small army of devises.
The problem I am finding is that the normal companies I use for my car/bike security will not have anything to do with caravans.
I used to work for Leicestershire Police recovering stolen vehicles and well aware of how the lowlife operate. I recovered many caravans that had been stolen off the back of cars and take my word for it, you would not want them back. I am quite upto date with the latest security as I am also a motorbiker and protecting these takes a small army of devises.
The problem I am finding is that the normal companies I use for my car/bike security will not have anything to do with caravans.
The more security the better.I keep mine at home on a specially made concrete pad.Into this was cast a ground anchor attachment for securing a chain around the A frame.
Most insurance companies require wheel clamp and hitch lock.To this I would add rear steady locks (mine are from SAS).
Throw in some form of tracking device and a caravan alarm and you should have made life really difficult for the low lifes, as there are so many systems to disable.
Beyond that think laterally.If at home park two cars in front of it:they will have to be moved first.
When you park up at a motorway service station leave one person behind to look after the caravan.I have seen two traveller types cruising a Cheshire motorway service area with a Transit pickup complete with tow ball and electrics.They disappeared quickly when a security guard appeared,although he was actually moving on a lady of a certain type who was approaching lorry drivers!
Most insurance companies require wheel clamp and hitch lock.To this I would add rear steady locks (mine are from SAS).
Throw in some form of tracking device and a caravan alarm and you should have made life really difficult for the low lifes, as there are so many systems to disable.
Beyond that think laterally.If at home park two cars in front of it:they will have to be moved first.
When you park up at a motorway service station leave one person behind to look after the caravan.I have seen two traveller types cruising a Cheshire motorway service area with a Transit pickup complete with tow ball and electrics.They disappeared quickly when a security guard appeared,although he was actually moving on a lady of a certain type who was approaching lorry drivers!
You can spend hundreds on locks and wheelclamps,but if they want the van it doesnt stop them.
On the Alko hitchlock we had a broken key and couldnt get the lock off,we managed to lever it off with a hefty screwdriver,i have never used one again.Use a sas hitchlock now.
On the Alko hitchlock we had a broken key and couldnt get the lock off,we managed to lever it off with a hefty screwdriver,i have never used one again.Use a sas hitchlock now.
Have a look at the JSB Hublock....Ive just bought one for home securing the van...Don't know if its insurance approved...but its sold secure GOLD..and it looks a LOT tougher to get off by thieves than any insurance approved stuff ive seen...Bit pricey...But then so's a caravan.
Regards William
Regards William
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