All caravan and camping sites should where possible segregate tents and tourers in my opinion. I spent a week in a devon campsite for whitsun and was woken every morning with the noise of tenters shouting at each other "whats for breakfast" and "who wants a cup of tea" while their kids think its ok to have a game of football at 7.30am. Also people with tents seem to take up more room on their pitch than everyone else with their wires, gazebos , pup tents and cars stretching into other pitches around them. all campers were and are generally very nice people but i got a touring caravan and keep all my buisness inside my van and awning and do not want to disturbed with the early morning racket made by most tenters - Separate us please
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must agree just spent 6 days on the isle of wright and twice a day people in the tent next door played cricket full size stumps next to my van not there tent we asked them to play where there was no vans or tents and the warden told them ,no ball games we came back one night at 8.45 and had to wait to get on our pitch while they moved there stumps the warden even told them they would have to leave if thy played again but they just said we are going tomorrow any way i am not anti tents or children i have four but never would i let them play by any van,tent .but in the field or empty space
Hi Anthony
I do a bit of both, caravan and tenting. I love my van but if I need to stop oevernight somewhere and it's just me (or with my dog), it's too much hassle for me to take the van, particularly if I'm stopping on a showground.
But I do understand what you mean about tenters being a bit noisy. I think there's a few reasons - obviously you can hear any noise coming from a tent. Also, if the weather is hot outside (even early morning), it can be unbearable inside a tent so you have to get up. If it's cold and raining, I've seen tenters sit in their cars with the engine running.
I think tents and vans should be separated too. I don't agree with kids playing ball games around tents or vans and I'm sorry to say that if a ball landed at my feet, I'd accidentially let my dog eat it.
Lisa
I do a bit of both, caravan and tenting. I love my van but if I need to stop oevernight somewhere and it's just me (or with my dog), it's too much hassle for me to take the van, particularly if I'm stopping on a showground.
But I do understand what you mean about tenters being a bit noisy. I think there's a few reasons - obviously you can hear any noise coming from a tent. Also, if the weather is hot outside (even early morning), it can be unbearable inside a tent so you have to get up. If it's cold and raining, I've seen tenters sit in their cars with the engine running.
I think tents and vans should be separated too. I don't agree with kids playing ball games around tents or vans and I'm sorry to say that if a ball landed at my feet, I'd accidentially let my dog eat it.
Lisa
Clearly it takes all sorts, unfortunately there are antisocial beings in all walks of life, and doubtless if your neighbours bought a caravan they'd be the ones with the TV in the awning at high volume until the early hours!
When I went to France last year for our summer holiday with my family there was a tent next to us, and the occupants kept us up with their shouting and screaming till 4am in the morning!
Unfortunately I was sleeping in the awning so it was even louder to me than my parents in the caravan! We had to ring the warden on site to come and tell them to quieten down as although we didn't want to stop anyone having fun - but I think until 4am was a bit unreasonable.
Nevertheless they did it again the next night / morning...
Unfortunately I was sleeping in the awning so it was even louder to me than my parents in the caravan! We had to ring the warden on site to come and tell them to quieten down as although we didn't want to stop anyone having fun - but I think until 4am was a bit unreasonable.
Nevertheless they did it again the next night / morning...
I just can't agree with this. Surely its the individuals that you encountered that were the problem, its got nothing to do with their tents. If individuals have disregard for others, then they will be like that whether they are in a tent, caravan, bus or hotel. You shouldn't group all togther. the next step would be to segregate people with old vans from those with new ones - because they're obviously common, and therefore rowdy
I agree that they should be segregated because of the few that cause a nuisance. We had a similar issue over the weekend with frisbees flying around, cricket and football being played around the caravans because the tents from the same party were scattered around amongst the caravans.
One caravan came on at about 3pm and left at about 7pm and I can only assume that they were concerned about their caravan being damaged.
Unfortunately noise from a tent carries a lot further at night and although music playing may not be overly loud to the people in the tent, the sound travels.
Unfortunately a minority spoil it for a majority!
One caravan came on at about 3pm and left at about 7pm and I can only assume that they were concerned about their caravan being damaged.
Unfortunately noise from a tent carries a lot further at night and although music playing may not be overly loud to the people in the tent, the sound travels.
Unfortunately a minority spoil it for a majority!
so how does it work with us in a van and the kids in a tent???
Vanners can be just as noisy especially sitting out in their awnings having a good old time late at night, noise still travels.
Vanners can be just as noisy especially sitting out in their awnings having a good old time late at night, noise still travels.
I could hardly believe this thread, and I echo Steve's last posting.
How long have we had caravanners who believe they are the butt of other road users bad habits, now exhibiting the same prejudices against campers?
It is your choice. If you go to a mixed site then you must expect to see and encounter both caravans and tents. Both forms of accommodation are just as valid.
It is grossly unfair to tar all campers with the same brush, and I think it is a pretty fair bet that there were as many caravanners children playing football its not just a tenter's habit.
As for noise its two way thing. You have a fair degree of noise insulation inside a caravan, but you aught to stand outside an occupied caravan, it will surprise you how much noise they create. Creaking floors, closing doors, pumps, tv and radio's children and yes adults too.
No one forced you to use that particular site, it was your own choice. Don't expect a site to change to suit you, but if you are looking for peace and quiet don't use large sites.
If you don't want to see tents, that is choice too, choose a site without tents.
You don't go to France and complain about it being full of Frenchmen do you?
How long have we had caravanners who believe they are the butt of other road users bad habits, now exhibiting the same prejudices against campers?
It is your choice. If you go to a mixed site then you must expect to see and encounter both caravans and tents. Both forms of accommodation are just as valid.
It is grossly unfair to tar all campers with the same brush, and I think it is a pretty fair bet that there were as many caravanners children playing football its not just a tenter's habit.
As for noise its two way thing. You have a fair degree of noise insulation inside a caravan, but you aught to stand outside an occupied caravan, it will surprise you how much noise they create. Creaking floors, closing doors, pumps, tv and radio's children and yes adults too.
No one forced you to use that particular site, it was your own choice. Don't expect a site to change to suit you, but if you are looking for peace and quiet don't use large sites.
If you don't want to see tents, that is choice too, choose a site without tents.
You don't go to France and complain about it being full of Frenchmen do you?
TRY THE CARAVAN CLUB
NO BALL GAMES NO BALL GAMES
NO BALL GAMES ALLOWED
THE WARDEN WILL NOT ACCEPT IT AND YOU ARE URGED TO REPORT IT.
CLEARLY THESE PARENTS HAVE A LOT OF MONEY CAUSE IF THERE CHILDREN HIT MY VAN WITH A BALL OF ANY SORT EXPECT TO PAY THE DAMAGE.
NO BALL GAMES NO BALL GAMES
NO BALL GAMES ALLOWED
THE WARDEN WILL NOT ACCEPT IT AND YOU ARE URGED TO REPORT IT.
CLEARLY THESE PARENTS HAVE A LOT OF MONEY CAUSE IF THERE CHILDREN HIT MY VAN WITH A BALL OF ANY SORT EXPECT TO PAY THE DAMAGE.
I really don't see any justification for blaming people in tents for all the problems that arise on site: very often, tents campers are young families who very much appreciate peace and quiet around children's bed time. Caravanning families, or couples, can be just as noisy and disruptive as any tent campers. It is the attitude of the adults that counts, not the sort of unit used. After all, many of today's caravanners began as campers.
We sometimes like to go away in our caravan, but meet up with our family, who have tents. It makes it much easier if we can pitch side by side. I can promise you, any conversation after about 8 p.m. will be very muted indeed, because we don't want to disturb the little ones once they are asleep, and next morning, we will be doing our level best to keep them quiet as late as possible, because we all want our lie-in.
Bad behaviour, such as ball games, can be just as damaging to the tranquillity and to the property of campers as to that of caravanners. Respect for others is not a specific characteristic of any particular set within the outdoor community. I cannot see that separating campers from caravanners would have any beneficial effect. In fact, I rather suspect it might lead to a deterioration in standards across the board.
Let us just, by our own example, encourage everyone to show respect for others, and not use sweeping generalisations to try and lay the blame on those who do not deserve it.
We sometimes like to go away in our caravan, but meet up with our family, who have tents. It makes it much easier if we can pitch side by side. I can promise you, any conversation after about 8 p.m. will be very muted indeed, because we don't want to disturb the little ones once they are asleep, and next morning, we will be doing our level best to keep them quiet as late as possible, because we all want our lie-in.
Bad behaviour, such as ball games, can be just as damaging to the tranquillity and to the property of campers as to that of caravanners. Respect for others is not a specific characteristic of any particular set within the outdoor community. I cannot see that separating campers from caravanners would have any beneficial effect. In fact, I rather suspect it might lead to a deterioration in standards across the board.
Let us just, by our own example, encourage everyone to show respect for others, and not use sweeping generalisations to try and lay the blame on those who do not deserve it.
A large number of caravanners started off as " tenters" as my wife says.
I started off as a tenter 45 years ago, became friendly with caravanners on the next pitch and the rest is history.
Problems with noise, ball games, antisocial behaveour are common to both caravanners and tenters.
Quite simmply people who do not like tenters should choose a caravan only site, like those who do not want children should choose an adults only site.
Hamer
Try getting to sleep when you're in a tent and:
Hundreds of dogs are barking till 3am, lots and lots of people drinking till 3am, noisy, laughing and some arguing.
Chap in caravan next door starts his generator at 5.30 am.
Then you have to start work at 7am........
That's life. LOL!!
Lisa
Hundreds of dogs are barking till 3am, lots and lots of people drinking till 3am, noisy, laughing and some arguing.
Chap in caravan next door starts his generator at 5.30 am.
Then you have to start work at 7am........
That's life. LOL!!
Lisa
On many sites the facilities for tenters are inadequate resulting in the place looking like a tip afterwards. Most noticable is the strong stench of urine in areas where the tenters have camped because through no fault of their own, the toilets are far away from their pitch so nature just takes it course. Also because a tent does not suffer from damage if a frisbee or ball is bounced on it many tenters have no respect for other people's property. I am no including all tenters but probably a minority who spoil it for the rest. We know of three sites local to us where they no longer allow tenters due to unruly behaviour by young people.
Ian, I have never, ever been on a site where anyone, whether they were in a tent or a caravan, used the vegetation as a toilet area. If I had the misfortune to find myself in such a place, I would be out of there, double fast.
Although tents are less vulnerable to damage from balls than is the bodywork of a caravan, most people in tents have arrived by car and their cars are liable to exactly the same degree of damage as those of caravanners. Campers are probably at greater risk from other accidents which might result from thoughtless ball games etc: for example, camping stoves can very easily be knocked over by a carelessly aimed ball, with the potential to cause serious injury.
I find it very offensive that so many people try to pin the blame for everything that goes wrong on a campsite on those using tents. Last time I was away in my caravan, we were very annoyed at the people in the caravan next door who slammed the doors of their red car very loudly around midnight,each night. Do you know of any site that does not accept red cars, or at least keeps them separated from responsible human beings,so that we may be assured that the same thing will not happen again? Clearly red-car drivers are different from the rest of us.
Although tents are less vulnerable to damage from balls than is the bodywork of a caravan, most people in tents have arrived by car and their cars are liable to exactly the same degree of damage as those of caravanners. Campers are probably at greater risk from other accidents which might result from thoughtless ball games etc: for example, camping stoves can very easily be knocked over by a carelessly aimed ball, with the potential to cause serious injury.
I find it very offensive that so many people try to pin the blame for everything that goes wrong on a campsite on those using tents. Last time I was away in my caravan, we were very annoyed at the people in the caravan next door who slammed the doors of their red car very loudly around midnight,each night. Do you know of any site that does not accept red cars, or at least keeps them separated from responsible human beings,so that we may be assured that the same thing will not happen again? Clearly red-car drivers are different from the rest of us.
I have a red car and would love to be segregated from the rest so that we can have a nice peaceful weekend! After that segreagate the tenters permanently to their own area with toiletg facilities unless of course thyey are sharing a pitch with a caravan, i.e. children!
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