camping gaz

[pikey1]

hello all, a quick question, can camping gaz cylinders be changed (exchanged) in france when empty?

Many thanks

 

[PC_5119929]

They sure can.

Calor and most others can't

 

[EvansofSprot]

Go to most supermarkets or 'bricolage' (do it yourself outlets) take the empty 'bidon' to the 'acceuil' welcoming desk and they will give you a 'ticket' which you give to the 'caissier' at the cash desk.

 

[rob_jax]

Good advice from Sprot, the prices in the hypermarkets are very competitive.

We use our Camping Gaz 907 cylinder for the BBQ and the Foker boiling ring - then we can cook outside rather than heating the van up - and we've had to replace our 907 bottle twice - one in the UK (expensive) and once at an Auchan hypermarket (cheap).

Robert

 

[pikey1]

many thanx to you all

 

[john_5040735]

Hi Folks - when you say cheap rob-jax how much do full new 907 cylinders cost in a hypermarket? i ask because over the last 10 years I have taken 2 907 cylinders with me across to France - never run out! However I am now considering taking my two 3.6kg propane gas bottles with me (full) and a spare Camping gas tap/hose.

You may wonder why this change - well I've heard of so many issues relating to the use of butane with 30mb regulators as fitted to newish vans and the fact that many of these regulators appear to fail when using butane. I therefore thought that - as a last resort - I could buy a 907 cylinder if I do run out of propane. I do carry a spare 30mb regulator as part of everyday "spares bag", but I have heard of these failing immediately after changing when being used with butane.

John

 

[rob_jax]

Hi John,

I'm not sure about the outright purchase price, but the refill last year was half the price I paid in the UK a few years back.

Our Eriba Triton has the new EN bulkhead fixed regulator, and it has worked fine on Calor Butane and (occasionally) Camping Gaz for two years of heavy use.

We have a spare 30 milliBar regulator with Camping Gaz adaptor that we use to run the BBQ and the Foker boiling ring - it's exactly the same make (and model number) as the fixed regulator and the old regulator in our previous Puck.

I'm beginning to think it's not a regulator problem, but an issue with a batch of the high pressure pig-tail hoses.

Robert

 

[john_5040735]

Interesting thoughts/comments Rob_Jax! I know that butane is essentially a better gas for hot weather usage, and as I say, I have never experienced any difficulties in using it at summer. It's just having listened to many comments on this forum and in other places about the 30mb regulator which I now have on my new van.

Decisions, decisions!!

Cheers

John

 

[JamesFrance]

I think the 907 refill is about 18_ in French supermarkets although I have paid 21_ in yacht harbours before now. The Spanish price is less than half that.

Like Robert we have used the new type regulator setup with 907s without any problems.

Really don't like the idea of the high pressure flexible hose though. Seems like a case of beaurocrats know best.

James

 

[rob_jax]

I think the 907 refill is about 18_ in French supermarkets although I have paid 21_ in yacht harbours before now. The Spanish price is less than half that.

Like Robert we have used the new type regulator setup with 907s without any problems.

Really don't like the idea of the high pressure flexible hose though. Seems like a case of beaurocrats know best.

James

Hi James,

The EN high pressure hose standard adopted in the UK a year or so back was made by some colleagues at CEN.

CEN houses a large number of technical committees, made up of industry experts from member countries of the EEA, who advise the politicians as to what is possible.

They may then decide to do something else (such as needing to reduce the wine lake - and hence the proposed use of Ethanol rather than Methanol in the production of bio-diesel) - and ask us to consider the ramifications of that change.

My committee - TC19 - are responsible for motor vehicle fuels, with a separate sub-committee looking at the possible uses of Ethanol.

Robert

 

[JamesFrance]

I think the 907 refill is about 18_ in French supermarkets although I have paid 21_ in yacht harbours before now. The Spanish price is less than half that.

Like Robert we have used the new type regulator setup with 907s without any problems.

Really don't like the idea of the high pressure flexible hose though. Seems like a case of beaurocrats know best.

James

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[JamesFrance]

I think the 907 refill is about 18_ in French supermarkets although I have paid 21_ in yacht harbours before now. The Spanish price is less than half that.

Like Robert we have used the new type regulator setup with 907s without any problems.

Really don't like the idea of the high pressure flexible hose though. Seems like a case of beaurocrats know best.

James

Hi Robert,

I bought an Autosleeper and had one of the first of the new fittings. As I wanted to be able to use different types of gas I phoned my local calor distributor in North Wales to ask about fittings. They had not even been told about it and said I must have it wrong as it would be crazy to pass high pressure gas through a flexible hose. Presumably the new hoses are 100% reliable?

James

 

[rob_jax]

Hi Robert,

I bought an Autosleeper and had one of the first of the new fittings. As I wanted to be able to use different types of gas I phoned my local calor distributor in North Wales to ask about fittings. They had not even been told about it and said I must have it wrong as it would be crazy to pass high pressure gas through a flexible hose. Presumably the new hoses are 100% reliable?

James

James,

As long as they are respected - don't hack at it with a knife and expect it to hold 4 or more bar.

We've used similar hose (but not identical) at pressures up to 2000 psi - a flexible link to an industrial gas bottle - so the 50 or 150 psi in a butane or propane bottle is not an issue.

Robert