Hi if you are the woman, with a scotish accent, who shouted "just wash his face and shut him up" to my son (one of twins aged five I was trying to wash) in the shower on bank holiday Monday, and followed with "I have come in here for a bit of peace and quiet". Please may I suggest you don't go to a campsite which takes children and deffinatley not over a bank hoilday. Especially when the site is on a safari park. If you have to retreat to the toilet/shower block for a bit of peace and quiet what does that say about you!
children at longleat caravan club site
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Well said you lot - about time somebody stuck up for the kids!!
I'm sick of reading about "fellow caravanners" who always moan about noisy kids etc.
Probably the one moaning about TV's in awnings!!!
I'm sick of reading about "fellow caravanners" who always moan about noisy kids etc.
Probably the one moaning about TV's in awnings!!!
I wouldn't worry too much, the women obviously had nothing better to do!
It's good to hear that I'm not the only one that takes my children on a family holiday. I only joined this site a few days ago (I didn't even know there were forums for caravanning) and I was quite shocked at how many posts there are about "children" and "noise".
I know there are always going to be a few that spoil it for the majority, but for me personally there's nothing better than to pull up at a campsite and see children playing outside in the fresh air!
I think before people moan about children on cmapsites, they should remember that at least the parents are making an effort -it's not easy to buy a caravan, learn how to use it and so on, and raise a young family at the same time. There are a lot more parents out there that choose to do nothing for their children.
By the way, how was Longleat? I'd like to camp there somtime - and take the children, and even their scooters!!!!
It's good to hear that I'm not the only one that takes my children on a family holiday. I only joined this site a few days ago (I didn't even know there were forums for caravanning) and I was quite shocked at how many posts there are about "children" and "noise".
I know there are always going to be a few that spoil it for the majority, but for me personally there's nothing better than to pull up at a campsite and see children playing outside in the fresh air!
I think before people moan about children on cmapsites, they should remember that at least the parents are making an effort -it's not easy to buy a caravan, learn how to use it and so on, and raise a young family at the same time. There are a lot more parents out there that choose to do nothing for their children.
By the way, how was Longleat? I'd like to camp there somtime - and take the children, and even their scooters!!!!
i cant belive she said that. did you have a go back i would have im afraid.
i dont mind noisy kids as i have 2 of my own and one has so much energy its unbeliveable but i am a beliver they should follow the same way on bikes and scooters for there own safety. i also think that kids up to about 9 should be supervised at the play area because that what it states.
i dont agree about mouthy parent though and old bags in the showers.
i remember when i went to wareham cc site an old bag had a go at me because i hadnt washed all the bubbles down the sink from my washing up. i didnt know i had to. maybe it was the same old bag.
im going there august god help her if she says that to me.
jo
i dont mind noisy kids as i have 2 of my own and one has so much energy its unbeliveable but i am a beliver they should follow the same way on bikes and scooters for there own safety. i also think that kids up to about 9 should be supervised at the play area because that what it states.
i dont agree about mouthy parent though and old bags in the showers.
i remember when i went to wareham cc site an old bag had a go at me because i hadnt washed all the bubbles down the sink from my washing up. i didnt know i had to. maybe it was the same old bag.
im going there august god help her if she says that to me.
jo
hi longleat is 10 out of 10, 500 yards from play fort and all the other things to do you can just stroll around after things close is if you owned the placeI wouldn't worry too much, the women obviously had nothing better to do!
It's good to hear that I'm not the only one that takes my children on a family holiday. I only joined this site a few days ago (I didn't even know there were forums for caravanning) and I was quite shocked at how many posts there are about "children" and "noise".
I know there are always going to be a few that spoil it for the majority, but for me personally there's nothing better than to pull up at a campsite and see children playing outside in the fresh air!
I think before people moan about children on cmapsites, they should remember that at least the parents are making an effort -it's not easy to buy a caravan, learn how to use it and so on, and raise a young family at the same time. There are a lot more parents out there that choose to do nothing for their children.
By the way, how was Longleat? I'd like to camp there somtime - and take the children, and even their scooters!!!!
Lee,
Caravanners should remember that todays children are tomorrow's caravanners.
If they are not allowed to enjoy themselves then they are not likely to take up our pastime in later years.
Yes children should be well behaved and young ones supervised but that does not mean " seen but not heard".
A caravan site is an excellent place where they can learn to socialise.
Assuming of course the parents know how to socialise.
Forget her Lee, she is not worth it. She is a "Female Bull".
HAMER ( an OAP).
Caravanners should remember that todays children are tomorrow's caravanners.
If they are not allowed to enjoy themselves then they are not likely to take up our pastime in later years.
Yes children should be well behaved and young ones supervised but that does not mean " seen but not heard".
A caravan site is an excellent place where they can learn to socialise.
Assuming of course the parents know how to socialise.
Forget her Lee, she is not worth it. She is a "Female Bull".
HAMER ( an OAP).
I'd have had to say something back I'm afraid.
Camp sites at times can be noisey , especially when folkes are on their daily constitution.
If the woman was complaining about noisey kids in the ladies block then god help her if she heard some of the noises in the male block.
As rightly pointed out , Longleat on a Bank Holiday!!! she clearly hasn't got the concept has she!!!!!!
Camp sites at times can be noisey , especially when folkes are on their daily constitution.
If the woman was complaining about noisey kids in the ladies block then god help her if she heard some of the noises in the male block.
As rightly pointed out , Longleat on a Bank Holiday!!! she clearly hasn't got the concept has she!!!!!!
What annoys me is mothers who bring their older boys into the ladies with them by that I mean boys who are obviously over 5. No-one objects to small boys with their mothers but why can't the older one go with their dads or older siblings to the gents.I'd have had to say something back I'm afraid.
Camp sites at times can be noisey , especially when folkes are on their daily constitution.
If the woman was complaining about noisey kids in the ladies block then god help her if she heard some of the noises in the male block.
As rightly pointed out , Longleat on a Bank Holiday!!! she clearly hasn't got the concept has she!!!!!!
It just amazes me what people expect of caravan sites.....they are by nature full of people on holiday, and there will always be noise...yet you constantly get the Mrs Bouquet syndrome of people wanting luxury and peace...why the hell do they go there then? If they want that, then they should rent out a private island like Necker or Skorpios and pay the price...not
This thread has reminded me of the first time I went to France camping about 30 years ago.
I was 11 or 12 and I was stunned the first time I went into the ammenities block to find it was mixed and no cibicles either.
No a pleasant site for an early teen to see saggy old french and German woman wanging their flabby bits about.
Mind you it had its up points as well , it was the first time I'd experienced topless sun bathing whilst in the Riviera. No those Frenchies certainly were'nt saggy or old!!!
Oh for my carefree youth again
I was 11 or 12 and I was stunned the first time I went into the ammenities block to find it was mixed and no cibicles either.
No a pleasant site for an early teen to see saggy old french and German woman wanging their flabby bits about.
Mind you it had its up points as well , it was the first time I'd experienced topless sun bathing whilst in the Riviera. No those Frenchies certainly were'nt saggy or old!!!
Oh for my carefree youth again
Roger!!! That was an excellent post.
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NOW LOOK YOU LOT!!!!
This is what some people are like. When my daughter was two, I put her small slide into a paddling pool in the back garden. The weather was red hot. She had a great time, laughing and chuckling. - No screaming, crying, shouting, just innocent fun.
The 'perfects' on the other side of our house stopped talking to us for six months. When Mrs Bouquet finally spoke to me, she exclaimed that it was this 'incident' which had upset them - the 'noise'.
THEY ARE CARAVANNERS TOO - SEE WHAT SOME OF THEM ARE LIKE.
Lisa
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NOW LOOK YOU LOT!!!!
This is what some people are like. When my daughter was two, I put her small slide into a paddling pool in the back garden. The weather was red hot. She had a great time, laughing and chuckling. - No screaming, crying, shouting, just innocent fun.
The 'perfects' on the other side of our house stopped talking to us for six months. When Mrs Bouquet finally spoke to me, she exclaimed that it was this 'incident' which had upset them - the 'noise'.
THEY ARE CARAVANNERS TOO - SEE WHAT SOME OF THEM ARE LIKE.
Lisa
But what if Dad is not with them and they have no older male sibling? Obviously there are limits, but a mother may reasonably be a little concerned about sending a small boy, even if he is over 5, into a male toilet block that she has been unable to check herself.What annoys me is mothers who bring their older boys into the ladies with them by that I mean boys who are obviously over 5. No-one objects to small boys with their mothers but why can't the older one go with their dads or older siblings to the gents.
SheiIa i'm one of those mothers that you don't like up until last year my son (who is 15 in July)did come to the showers with me however he has autism,adhd and learning disabilities but to look at him there is nothing wrong the only time we had a problem was at unity resort 4 years ago the attendant told me they didn't allow older boys in with their mums I explained to her the situation and also asked if she would allow a 6 year old in on his own as that is the level he is still at and she told me that some mothers sent 3 year old along for showers on their own.Even boys OVER 5 need supervising in the shower most don't shower on their own at home at that age and on alot of sites would likely get burnt without mum being there to adjust the settings also most husbands/partners are still very much hands off when it comes to child rearing when mine were little they hardly saw dad as he was working when they went to bed and still in bed when they went to nursery/school so if dad had tried to do showering would of had a very difficult time managing it, also how many of these do you know are not single parents or like myself go away on our own and then husband comes and joins me when he can,i'm just asking you to think before you judge others.
Jo
Jo
Jo, that is the sort of scenario I had in mind in the comment I added to what Sheila originally wrote. What I think this does highlight is the need for a better provision of 'Family Bathroom' facilities on sites: a room available to parents of either gender which they can safely use with all of their children. Dads camping alone with daughters actually have a harder time than Mums with little boys: few men would want to take a little girl into the mens' toilets or showers, so their access to facilities would be very limited indeed.
If you've ever been to Carnon Downs in Cornwall then I think you'd agree their facilities are very good.
The main block has several 'rooms' and each are like a bathroom with toilet , shower , sink etc and can be used by male or female and are big enough for disabled users as well. They can easily be used to take a couple of kids into and shower them off as they are very spacious.
The main block has several 'rooms' and each are like a bathroom with toilet , shower , sink etc and can be used by male or female and are big enough for disabled users as well. They can easily be used to take a couple of kids into and shower them off as they are very spacious.
Anyone wishing to have a 'peaceful' holiday should avoid school vacations (including Bank Holidays). There is plenty of time (Sunday-Friday) outside of these periods when sites are a bit quieter. Alternatively, they should look at 'Adult Only' sites.
Ann
Ann
quote "Anyone wishing to have a 'peaceful' holiday should avoid school vacations (including Bank Holidays). There is plenty of time (Sunday-Friday) outside of these periods when sites are a bit quieter. Alternatively, they should look at 'Adult Only' sites.
Ann "
At adult only sites the kids are replaced by dogs. After a weekend of yapping because owners tied there dogs up outside their units where they could bark at every other dog being walked down the road I would have gladly swopped them for a class of 10 year olds.
Ann "
At adult only sites the kids are replaced by dogs. After a weekend of yapping because owners tied there dogs up outside their units where they could bark at every other dog being walked down the road I would have gladly swopped them for a class of 10 year olds.
Dogs are also in attendance at many sites, as are children. I was making a point that if you attend most sites during school vacations and Bank Holidays you are going to have children. I wasn't objecting to this. Just stating a fact.
As for dogs - we have a very well behaved little dog and nobody knows she is around. She isn't yappy and has never been allowed to be.
I can see this going down the kids vs dogs route yet again!
Ann
As for dogs - we have a very well behaved little dog and nobody knows she is around. She isn't yappy and has never been allowed to be.
I can see this going down the kids vs dogs route yet again!
Ann
sheila, i agree with chrissie on this. what about a single mother she would have no choice but to go with her children unless she uses the family room at the cc site. what about single dads aswell. i always use the todder room the cc's for lucas he will only have a bath and has a fear of showers. i couldnt send lucas on his own in the mens he is 7 but the size of a 3 year old as he was so prem and he is behind in some things. i think thats kids should be supervised in the shower until there about 9-10 supervised as in mum sitting on the bench inside whilst the kids shower even for the kids safety. Reece goes to the mens on his own and is 15 he to has needs but is okay to shower himself.
sheila im not having a go but theres some situations that cant be helped and until you have kids with special needs then you and some other people wont understand.
jo
sheila im not having a go but theres some situations that cant be helped and until you have kids with special needs then you and some other people wont understand.
jo
I think children are very important participants to caravvaning. Their quality of life is amazing. I was quite emotional looking round a play field on site seeing groups of children playing skittles,flying mini kites, tennis with their parents and playing made-up games (that was my 2 and a new friend!)These experiences will make them our future. I thought of children who may be in a smoky flat for the weekend in front of the TV and again, felt a bit emotional (I must have had a couple of glasses of wine!)
I had never thought anything of seeing mums and older boys in the loos. Not bothered about that at all. Their safety and care comes before anything.
I had never thought anything of seeing mums and older boys in the loos. Not bothered about that at all. Their safety and care comes before anything.
totally agree caroline. i cant see the problem either its not the mens where you share the urinal ( if spelt correct ) lol. there are doors on all the showers and loos.
jo
jo
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Without wanting to get into the middle of a 'bun fight' maybe a bit of understanding from all sides could be the answer.
Bank Holidays are reknowned in England for being either excellent or 'Hell on earth' although that is usually the trip home. But as everyone is agreed the sites are usually chokka then possibly extra care and attention is required from everyone. The facilities are going to get a lot of extra abuse and adults as well as children seem to often forget that others would like to use the facilities as well. Without being sexist my wife advises me that the female facilities seem to get a worse hammering than the Gents. Whether this is due to more mothers taking toddlers, or what I cannot comment but she has returned a few times commenting that the state the showers had been left in, left a lot to be desired, and that it was often adults who were the culprits. Even in non camping life we have both noticed that there is an increasing trend for parents with small children to wish to explain everything in great detail, when often a simple 'No' would suffice. We see, and certainly hear them on the buses here in Edinburgh where everything little darling wants to do requires a long explanation. The child also talks incessantly and one wonders how it will survive at school. You do sometimes want to lean over and just tell the mother and child to just 'shut up' but of course you don't.
However, back to sites. As we all know some people seem to think the wardens are there to clean up after them and one does wonder how these people manage at home. Again, for no other reason than personal experience it seems that CC sites are more prone to this problem than C&CC. This does seem curious as the C&CC sites have tenters where they have no choice but to use the site facilities whereas the CC is solely caravans or motorhomes with often luxury washrooms. There also does appear to be trends where regular campers are more considerate, while those who only camp on major holidays are less so. I am sure others will disagree, but again can only state from personal experience. I also point out that age does not have any significance as it is often the elderly who are the worst culprits.
However, to look on the positive side. In the UK usually people take fairly quick showers, in Europe you can be waiting half an hour while the Italian in the cubicle washes everything at least 6 times, and is usually singing. Comes out smelling like a brothel, but of course I would not really know about such things.
By the way as the protagonist was Scottish you could always shout back 'Away and bile yer heid'. That would probably shut her up.
Bank Holidays are reknowned in England for being either excellent or 'Hell on earth' although that is usually the trip home. But as everyone is agreed the sites are usually chokka then possibly extra care and attention is required from everyone. The facilities are going to get a lot of extra abuse and adults as well as children seem to often forget that others would like to use the facilities as well. Without being sexist my wife advises me that the female facilities seem to get a worse hammering than the Gents. Whether this is due to more mothers taking toddlers, or what I cannot comment but she has returned a few times commenting that the state the showers had been left in, left a lot to be desired, and that it was often adults who were the culprits. Even in non camping life we have both noticed that there is an increasing trend for parents with small children to wish to explain everything in great detail, when often a simple 'No' would suffice. We see, and certainly hear them on the buses here in Edinburgh where everything little darling wants to do requires a long explanation. The child also talks incessantly and one wonders how it will survive at school. You do sometimes want to lean over and just tell the mother and child to just 'shut up' but of course you don't.
However, back to sites. As we all know some people seem to think the wardens are there to clean up after them and one does wonder how these people manage at home. Again, for no other reason than personal experience it seems that CC sites are more prone to this problem than C&CC. This does seem curious as the C&CC sites have tenters where they have no choice but to use the site facilities whereas the CC is solely caravans or motorhomes with often luxury washrooms. There also does appear to be trends where regular campers are more considerate, while those who only camp on major holidays are less so. I am sure others will disagree, but again can only state from personal experience. I also point out that age does not have any significance as it is often the elderly who are the worst culprits.
However, to look on the positive side. In the UK usually people take fairly quick showers, in Europe you can be waiting half an hour while the Italian in the cubicle washes everything at least 6 times, and is usually singing. Comes out smelling like a brothel, but of course I would not really know about such things.
By the way as the protagonist was Scottish you could always shout back 'Away and bile yer heid'. That would probably shut her up.
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