cost of electric on site
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They can charge you this if electric used is calculated as per what they aer charge but they will need to know the exact number of units consumed.
If they just tacked it on as a guessimate, then NO, as they do not have a supplier's licence. Send a copy of the bill to Energywatch who will come down on them like a ton of bricks.
If they just tacked it on as a guessimate, then NO, as they do not have a supplier's licence. Send a copy of the bill to Energywatch who will come down on them like a ton of bricks.
There are some 'grey' areas regarding charging for electricity!
If a site wants to charge for electricity, as an additional charge to pitch fees, then yes each pitch must have a meter and the charges must be based on the electicity consumed.
However, sites are within their rights to provide a pitch that has charges set that are 'inclusive' of electricity. In these cases the user can use as much electricity as the amperage of the site bollards permit which can vary from about 5amps to 16amps.
Sites can also provide a pitch that is 'exclusive' of electricity but this does not mean the difference between the inclusive and the exclusive charges are just for electricity.
Basically, it is illegal to charge directly for electricity if it is not properly metered at the point of use.
If a site wants to charge for electricity, as an additional charge to pitch fees, then yes each pitch must have a meter and the charges must be based on the electicity consumed.
However, sites are within their rights to provide a pitch that has charges set that are 'inclusive' of electricity. In these cases the user can use as much electricity as the amperage of the site bollards permit which can vary from about 5amps to 16amps.
Sites can also provide a pitch that is 'exclusive' of electricity but this does not mean the difference between the inclusive and the exclusive charges are just for electricity.
Basically, it is illegal to charge directly for electricity if it is not properly metered at the point of use.
the site in question had no meter just eight outlets. you could plug in if you want to at a cost so is this what you call ilegal
gavin
On our CL we do not charge for the electricity , but we do charge for the use of the hook up.
On our CL we do not charge for the electricity , but we do charge for the use of the hook up.
As you say, there is an easy way round the problem just by referring to it as a hook-up charge rather than a flat rate specifically for electricity.
Hello Gavin,
At the risk of reiterating what Ian and Beemermal have already writen, the rules concerning the supply of electricity are not always very clear.
It all depends on what the site operator says in their terms and conditions.
If they say they electricity is available on selected pitched at an additional fee of
At the risk of reiterating what Ian and Beemermal have already writen, the rules concerning the supply of electricity are not always very clear.
It all depends on what the site operator says in their terms and conditions.
If they say they electricity is available on selected pitched at an additional fee of
John L states;
"You have to bear in mind that it costs the site owner money to install, and maintain the hook up points. There are annual inspections and testing, and there are other costs such a council tax, and business rates. On top of these we must not forget that the sites still has to pay for the electricity it uses, and as it is a commercial concern, it does not receive subsidised energy so its cost is greater than what you would pay at home."
Installation costs yes, maintenace, inspections etc are built into the standing charge or combined with the unit tariff and seldom happen anyway. As for council tax etc this has nothing to do with the cost of electric as they would have this tax even if it was not a caravan site. I would assume that ths is built into the price of the pitch, EHU or not. Commercial enterprises pay less per unit for electric than a householder.
To be honest,no matter how you work it out, your consumption for a night would be well below
"You have to bear in mind that it costs the site owner money to install, and maintain the hook up points. There are annual inspections and testing, and there are other costs such a council tax, and business rates. On top of these we must not forget that the sites still has to pay for the electricity it uses, and as it is a commercial concern, it does not receive subsidised energy so its cost is greater than what you would pay at home."
Installation costs yes, maintenace, inspections etc are built into the standing charge or combined with the unit tariff and seldom happen anyway. As for council tax etc this has nothing to do with the cost of electric as they would have this tax even if it was not a caravan site. I would assume that ths is built into the price of the pitch, EHU or not. Commercial enterprises pay less per unit for electric than a householder.
To be honest,no matter how you work it out, your consumption for a night would be well below
Hello Ian,
it rater depends on the tarrifs you look at, but I may have got my figures wrong for the commercial/domestic cost per unit.
But with regard to the maintenance costs, I was refering to the equipment at each pitch, rather than the supply to the site as whole. The site owners are responsible for the maintenance and testing.
it rater depends on the tarrifs you look at, but I may have got my figures wrong for the commercial/domestic cost per unit.
But with regard to the maintenance costs, I was refering to the equipment at each pitch, rather than the supply to the site as whole. The site owners are responsible for the maintenance and testing.
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