Do you know your traffic laws
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Parksy
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I'd strongly advise forum members who are offended by written expletives not to read the comments attached to the video.
The cyclist filming that should be locked up and the keys thrown away as I am sick and tired of braking or swerving to avoid cyclists who think that the road rules do not apply to them. In my opnion he is a total idiot and hope that the next time he jumps a red light he gets taken out!
Surfer, I totally agree with you but if he is taken out when jumping a red light it will be doubtless that the poor driver that hits him will be prosecuted.
It's when they are grouped together that bugs me, all bunched up, hogging the road, and stopping people passing. A couple of weeks ago we were in the Yorkshire dales and the Mushroomheads were thicker than the midges and I don't mean mentally, just more of them
Snowdonia was the same.
Some of them take up the amount of road that a car does so they should be taxed
Some of them take up the amount of road that a car does so they should be taxed
Agreed and we have a lot of that in the rural area where we live. At the very least these guys should have third party insurance if they are going to use the roads. Obviously there are considerate cyclists but they are few and far between!Lord Braykewynde said:It's when they are grouped together that bugs me, all bunched up, hogging the road, and stopping people passing. A couple of weeks ago we were in the Yorkshire dales and the Mushroomheads were thicker than the midges and I don't mean mentally, just more of themSnowdonia was the same.
Some of them take up the amount of road that a car does so they should be taxed
Surfer said:
I live in an agricultural area, Herefordshire, but here the Mushroomheads are exceeded in numbers by tractors
The officer is correct, and i would have urged the "law student" to learn verbatum the following before shooting his mouth off !!!As for assault, the officer may use such force as is necessary to detain such a person in execution of his sect 24 PACE duties. [F124 Arrest without warrant: constables E+W
(1)A constable may arrest without a warrant—
(a)anyone who is about to commit an offence;
(b)anyone who is in the act of committing an offence;
(c)anyone whom he has reasonable grounds for suspecting to be about to commit an offence;
(d)anyone whom he has reasonable grounds for suspecting to be committing an offence.
(2)If a constable has reasonable grounds for suspecting that an offence has been committed, he may arrest without a warrant anyone whom he has reasonable grounds to suspect of being guilty of it.
(3)If an offence has been committed, a constable may arrest without a warrant—
(a)anyone who is guilty of the offence;
(b)anyone whom he has reasonable grounds for suspecting to be guilty of it.
(4)But the power of summary arrest conferred by subsection (1), (2) or (3) is exercisable only if the constable has reasonable grounds for believing that for any of the reasons mentioned in subsection (5) it is necessary to arrest the person in question.
(5)The reasons are—
(a)to enable the name of the person in question to be ascertained (in the case where the constable does not know, and cannot readily ascertain, the person's name, or has reasonable grounds for doubting whether a name given by the person as his name is his real name);
(b)correspondingly as regards the person's address;
(c)to prevent the person in question—
(i)causing physical injury to himself or any other person;
(ii)suffering physical injury;
(iii)causing loss of or damage to property;
(iv)committing an offence against public decency (subject to subsection (6)); or
(v)causing an unlawful obstruction of the highway;
(d)to protect a child or other vulnerable person from the person in question;
(e)to allow the prompt and effective investigation of the offence or of the conduct of the person in question;
(f)to prevent any prosecution for the offence from being hindered by the disappearance of the person in question.
(6)Subsection (5)(c)(iv) applies only where members of the public going about their normal business cannot reasonably be expected to avoid the person in question.]
C - Protect a Child or vulnerable person
O - Prevent Obstruction of the highway
P - Prevent physical injury to the relevant person, or any other person
P - Prevent offences against Public Decency
L - Prevent Loss or damage to property
A - Address not known or not verifiable
N - Name not known or not verifiable
I - Allow a Prompt and Effective Investigation of the offence
D - Prevent the investigation being hindered by the Disappearance of the person
(1)A constable may arrest without a warrant—
(a)anyone who is about to commit an offence;
(b)anyone who is in the act of committing an offence;
(c)anyone whom he has reasonable grounds for suspecting to be about to commit an offence;
(d)anyone whom he has reasonable grounds for suspecting to be committing an offence.
(2)If a constable has reasonable grounds for suspecting that an offence has been committed, he may arrest without a warrant anyone whom he has reasonable grounds to suspect of being guilty of it.
(3)If an offence has been committed, a constable may arrest without a warrant—
(a)anyone who is guilty of the offence;
(b)anyone whom he has reasonable grounds for suspecting to be guilty of it.
(4)But the power of summary arrest conferred by subsection (1), (2) or (3) is exercisable only if the constable has reasonable grounds for believing that for any of the reasons mentioned in subsection (5) it is necessary to arrest the person in question.
(5)The reasons are—
(a)to enable the name of the person in question to be ascertained (in the case where the constable does not know, and cannot readily ascertain, the person's name, or has reasonable grounds for doubting whether a name given by the person as his name is his real name);
(b)correspondingly as regards the person's address;
(c)to prevent the person in question—
(i)causing physical injury to himself or any other person;
(ii)suffering physical injury;
(iii)causing loss of or damage to property;
(iv)committing an offence against public decency (subject to subsection (6)); or
(v)causing an unlawful obstruction of the highway;
(d)to protect a child or other vulnerable person from the person in question;
(e)to allow the prompt and effective investigation of the offence or of the conduct of the person in question;
(f)to prevent any prosecution for the offence from being hindered by the disappearance of the person in question.
(6)Subsection (5)(c)(iv) applies only where members of the public going about their normal business cannot reasonably be expected to avoid the person in question.]
C - Protect a Child or vulnerable person
O - Prevent Obstruction of the highway
P - Prevent physical injury to the relevant person, or any other person
P - Prevent offences against Public Decency
L - Prevent Loss or damage to property
A - Address not known or not verifiable
N - Name not known or not verifiable
I - Allow a Prompt and Effective Investigation of the offence
D - Prevent the investigation being hindered by the Disappearance of the person
He was exercising his powers,, when put on the back foot, by the male he stalled, when justfying his actions.
The officer was giving his justification for arrest NOT the power for the arrest.
As for the camera being seized, Sect 19 PACE 1984 would have shut the "law student" up.
It is common practice for people in the wrong to try and cloud the issue.
Have you ever heard the phrase "me thinks you protest too much."
Mat
The officer was giving his justification for arrest NOT the power for the arrest.
As for the camera being seized, Sect 19 PACE 1984 would have shut the "law student" up.
It is common practice for people in the wrong to try and cloud the issue.
Have you ever heard the phrase "me thinks you protest too much."
Mat
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