Early arrival penalty costs

Apr 4, 2005
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Sites in the CCC charge a £5 penalty for arrival before mid-day.

I appreciate wardens need some structure but surely we all have enough rules and regulations in life already, without what should be a relaxing hobby turning into yet another can and can't do. If they don't want us before 12.oo fair enough but to charge - not on.
 
Apr 13, 2005
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CHRIS, Don't know what happened above just noticed i was typing away and my post had sent itself. Any way back to the subject, we stopped using club sites earlier on this year after visiting the leek site, we found that apart from ourselves and my sisters family there was only one other van on site, despite this our children where constantly hounded to don't do that, you can't come in here, don't play with that on site, etc etc etc. it was very early season and we still had to pay not far short of 16 pounds per night which was 4 pounds per night more than a commerciall site near us that provided just a good facilities plus a full evenings entertainment in the club house. but the worst was when i went to enquire about what time we could stay untill on the sunday and was told we must be off site by 12 o'clock, this was absolutely ridiculous as the site was empty.
 
Mar 14, 2005
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Strange that you mention the Leek C&CC site JOHN G as we looked at both the C&CC and CC sites a week ago_On the C&CC site I had pleasant conversation with a guy who kept his van in storage there.He was not allowed to wash his van on the site but across the road on the CC site another guy was up a ladder happily cleaning away.Guess which site we will go to !!! Not that we go away to clean the van but sometimes needs must.
 
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A lot of sites operate the off site by a certain time rule due to the fact the entrance road may be very narrow or steep where they cant have one caravan leaving and one arriving at the same time
 
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CHRIS, Don't know what happened above just noticed i was typing away and my post had sent itself. Any way back to the subject, we stopped using club sites earlier on this year after visiting the leek site, we found that apart from ourselves and my sisters family there was only one other van on site, despite this our children where constantly hounded to don't do that, you can't come in here, don't play with that on site, etc etc etc. it was very early season and we still had to pay not far short of 16 pounds per night which was 4 pounds per night more than a commerciall site near us that provided just a good facilities plus a full evenings entertainment in the club house. but the worst was when i went to enquire about what time we could stay untill on the sunday and was told we must be off site by 12 o'clock, this was absolutely ridiculous as the site was empty.
Quite! They seem incapable of flexibility when sometimes it would just be a nice gesture if conditions allow.
 
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We go to one site that doesn't want you there before 2.30pm but they don't as far as I know charge early arrivals.
Good to hear. It is not always possible to determine exact time of arrival due to traffic, familiarity etc. etc. but I think this charging is something we should complain about really before it just becomes another standard 'add-on'.
 
Mar 14, 2005
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Hi, Looking at this from another angle, we often arrive on some sites on friday evening probably 6-7pm rather than travel saturday,Which most sites don't mind, But they still want you off by that golden time of noon on departure day so shouldn't they charge per 24hr period and discount for any less as in theory we pay full day rate for approx 5 hours on friday?
 
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Hi, Looking at this from another angle, we often arrive on some sites on friday evening probably 6-7pm rather than travel saturday,Which most sites don't mind, But they still want you off by that golden time of noon on departure day so shouldn't they charge per 24hr period and discount for any less as in theory we pay full day rate for approx 5 hours on friday?
Agree with this too as many people need to leave early if they have some distance to go. It would make much sense (so probably it will never happen!!!!)
 
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We are definitely not renewing our membership next year. The main reason is the 12 pm rule on a Sunday and secondly the attitude of the wardens on the CCC sites in general leaves a lot to be desired.

As we are normally only about 30 - 40 miles from home, who wants to be sitting at home by 2pm on a sunny Sunday. They are totally inflexible in their attitude. The one and only time we used a CCC Cs it was nothing like the description in the book and generally was not a site for twin axles.

Lastly if you have a complaint you have to post them a letter as in this modern day and age they don't have an email contact address unless this has changed recently or I have overlooked it!
 
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I am amazed at this as I have not had any experience as a member of the CC. I considerred the C&CC but a friend who was in it advised not too for reasons similar to that stated here.

He is not renewing his membership and is to try the CC despite the theoretical advantage of him being in one club and us bing in the other.
 
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Although this new policy has not caused me any personal problems, I do think it very misguided and I hope the CCC will have the sense to withdraw it at the end of this year. We recently had a weekend at the Blackmore site (excellent by the way) and calculated that we would need four hours to get there. As it happened, traffic was lighter than we had anticipated and we actually did it in little over three hours, arriving on the dot of twelve. No problem there - but the point is, given the state of roads in the UK, how can anyone accurately plan a journey of more than a few miles? If we had been 'fortunate' enough to have arrived a couple of minutes sooner, would it have cost us
 
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Although this new policy has not caused me any personal problems, I do think it very misguided and I hope the CCC will have the sense to withdraw it at the end of this year. We recently had a weekend at the Blackmore site (excellent by the way) and calculated that we would need four hours to get there. As it happened, traffic was lighter than we had anticipated and we actually did it in little over three hours, arriving on the dot of twelve. No problem there - but the point is, given the state of roads in the UK, how can anyone accurately plan a journey of more than a few miles? If we had been 'fortunate' enough to have arrived a couple of minutes sooner, would it have cost us
 
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Hi Dusty

Being a fairly recent reader of this forum, sorry if I have repeated things, but it does seem several people feel rather strongly about it and hopefully the CCC will do as suggested by Chrissie. I too feel we should not have to go to such lengths as to accommodate the 12.00 rule at the end of a journey.

(p.s. - not long 'till Shrewsbury!!!)
 
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Hi Dusty

Being a fairly recent reader of this forum, sorry if I have repeated things, but it does seem several people feel rather strongly about it and hopefully the CCC will do as suggested by Chrissie. I too feel we should not have to go to such lengths as to accommodate the 12.00 rule at the end of a journey.

(p.s. - not long 'till Shrewsbury!!!)
Hi Chris, sorry, I wasn't complaining, I was just giving an example of one of my previous comments. I did complain at a CCC regional meeting once which I attended some years ago. I was talking to a club member who was obviously a regular rally goer and as soon as he saw some one he knew he was off, no 'excuse me' or anything. The meeting was full of cliques of people and no one really made the individual member welcome.

Yes, not long until Shrewsbury!

Incidently we were in your neck of the woods on Saturday at Cholmondeley Castle for the concert and fireworks. 20 of us came by coach and had a super evening.
 
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Hi Chris, sorry, I wasn't complaining, I was just giving an example of one of my previous comments. I did complain at a CCC regional meeting once which I attended some years ago. I was talking to a club member who was obviously a regular rally goer and as soon as he saw some one he knew he was off, no 'excuse me' or anything. The meeting was full of cliques of people and no one really made the individual member welcome.

Yes, not long until Shrewsbury!

Incidently we were in your neck of the woods on Saturday at Cholmondeley Castle for the concert and fireworks. 20 of us came by coach and had a super evening.
Hi Dusty

I didn,t take it as a complaint, but being fairly new to this forum there is a lot of pages to wade through on some topics, so I feel sure I must be repeating things sometimes!! You have hinted at the 'rally' scene. I have wondered if they are a bit insular - have you tried one?

Glad you enjoyed Saturday, at least it stayed dry for you.
 
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Hi Chris (Nantwich)

Have you ever been kept waiting for a pitch if you arrive after 2.30 in the afternoon if you haven't then thats mainly due to the 12,oclock rule.

if you go to any decent hotel you cannot take up your room till after noon and in all cases tyou must vacate about 10.00am.

if you go on a package holiday you have to vacate in the morning even if your flight doesn't leave until am the next morning and if you a lucky you may be given a 30 min time in a courtesy room.

Sites like most service industries need a slot of time to cover their duties of care to the pitches themselves. and in MHO the rules of arrival and departure are reasonable although I don't agree with charging if you come early.
 
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hi when i recived the notice i understood the site manager had discretion on this charge if they wanted to charge me i would turn around and come back later the thing is these clubs have now become big business no longer member orentated
 
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Shiraz, I totally agree with you if the site is busy or during july and august when all sites are busy but as i stated my experiance at the leek club site was in january and apart from myself and my sisters family the site had only one other van on the field we where in. i was charged 16.00 per day for my pitch which is expensive at that time of year and i was not allowed on before 2.30 on friday and had to be off by 12.00 on sunday. in comparison most if not all privately run sites have no objection to an extended stay on the sunday if the site is quiet and they are usually a substantial amount cheaper. it is a shame as i have been a member of both clubs for some years now but i have cancelled my direct debit for both as we have not used either of them since the visit to leek. Personally i think both clubs need to go back to theire roots and forget becoming commercial giants.
 
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Hi Shiraz

I agree with you that be it hotel etc. there are always time deadlines. The thing I am against by the CCC is the charging penalty part of it. I also agree with Icemaker, both clubs need to relook at their policies as they can be efficient without becoming officious. Caravanning is IMHO supposed to be a reasonably relaxed affair and perhaps some flexibility should be exercised when conditions permit.
 
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Hi Shiraz

I agree with you that be it hotel etc. there are always time deadlines. The thing I am against by the CCC is the charging penalty part of it. I also agree with Icemaker, both clubs need to relook at their policies as they can be efficient without becoming officious. Caravanning is IMHO supposed to be a reasonably relaxed affair and perhaps some flexibility should be exercised when conditions permit.
I agree with you that caravanning should be a fairly laid back affair but i think that apart from a few officious wardens and their is an avenue of complaint for members to use to complain about them. I having used CC sites for many years because of the standards they keep which have been tried and tested through time, and arriving and leaving is one of them and I say do not change that rule at all. People who are not willing to abide by the rules should go to commercial sites where there needs MAY be catered for particularly at peak times etc.etc.etc.
 

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