I got cornered today by a guy in our village who owns property all over the place,and consequently is well up on rules and regs. He asked if my caravan had a "special location" electricity certificate. He can be a bit of a bore, and after an hour or two (probably only 20 mins really!), my eyes glazed over, and he finally left. He quoted all sorts of BS numbers at me, but none of them sunk in..Does anyone know what he was talking about?
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- Thread starter emmerson
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Oh gosh I fear the OP will set the hare running again and its not that long ago that we managed to shoot it after an interminably long chase!!
Damian
Moderator
Oh my God, someone has opened the can of worms again.
The original bright "idea" by the NCC was to make all Approved Workshops undergo expensive "training" on LV and ELV systems.
For those who hate linitials being used it stands for 230v and 12v systems.
The idea then was to inform all owners that they "HAD to have an Electrical Safety Certificate " (at the owners cost and having his van basically ripped apart by a person who had a massive TWO whole days "training" for each system), before they would be allowed to plug into site bollards.
The only trouble was, and is, is that neither the main clubs (who support the NCC AWS scheme)will ask for these certificates, and neither will any sensible site owner.
The other problem was that the NCC forgot to tell anyone else apart from the workshops about their "Forced Addition" to caravan ownership.
Your original Installation Certificate states that the system "should" be tested at regular intervals after the initial 3 years, but the word "Should" is simply an advisory term, it is NOT a mandatory requirement (if it was made mandatory the the words "WILL" or "Shall" would be used.
The simple facts are that in all the years of caravans, not one single person has been killed as a result of an electric malfunction in a caravan.
The same cannot be said about death from CO poisoning, but the NCC AWS do not want to take this one on and insist that engineers carry out flue gas testing as a matter of routine and room CO testing, but many engineers have taken this on board and do the tests even though they are not rquired by the AWS.
Back to Electrical Testing, take no notice of the scare mongers tryingto extract even more money from you for no good or legal reason.
The original bright "idea" by the NCC was to make all Approved Workshops undergo expensive "training" on LV and ELV systems.
For those who hate linitials being used it stands for 230v and 12v systems.
The idea then was to inform all owners that they "HAD to have an Electrical Safety Certificate " (at the owners cost and having his van basically ripped apart by a person who had a massive TWO whole days "training" for each system), before they would be allowed to plug into site bollards.
The only trouble was, and is, is that neither the main clubs (who support the NCC AWS scheme)will ask for these certificates, and neither will any sensible site owner.
The other problem was that the NCC forgot to tell anyone else apart from the workshops about their "Forced Addition" to caravan ownership.
Your original Installation Certificate states that the system "should" be tested at regular intervals after the initial 3 years, but the word "Should" is simply an advisory term, it is NOT a mandatory requirement (if it was made mandatory the the words "WILL" or "Shall" would be used.
The simple facts are that in all the years of caravans, not one single person has been killed as a result of an electric malfunction in a caravan.
The same cannot be said about death from CO poisoning, but the NCC AWS do not want to take this one on and insist that engineers carry out flue gas testing as a matter of routine and room CO testing, but many engineers have taken this on board and do the tests even though they are not rquired by the AWS.
Back to Electrical Testing, take no notice of the scare mongers tryingto extract even more money from you for no good or legal reason.
........there you have it........Rent out or let accommodation to a tenant or someone else who pays to occupy it, and you need to protect yourself from possible litigation.........An annual gas safety inspection is mandatory and a electrical safety report is strongly advised.emmerson said:
Thanks, peeps. I thought he might have been talking nonsense, but he was insistent that this certificate is a legal requirement and specifically include caravans.
I try to avoid the guy as much as possible as he always manages to annoy me about something!
I try to avoid the guy as much as possible as he always manages to annoy me about something!
Gafferbill said:
Surely the prime purpose of such tests for rented accommodation is for the protection of the tenant and to give some assurance that lethal systems such as gas are checked by a competent person. But such tests are not a guarantee against litigation in the event of an accident. The landlord will still be required to show that all reasonable actions were taken to reduce the risk.
.........you are right in every respect Clive........I let out property and my agent rightly insists that an annual gas safety check is carried out (legal requirement) and that an electrical safety certificate is in force.....both have to be undertaken by a tradesman recognised as suitably qualified to carry out the testing.... the tradesman signs the certificate putting their name and reputation on the line.... My agent and their legal department advise me that the courts accept these certificates as proof that a landlord has done all they can to ensure the safety of their tenant....... Incidentally a landlord also has to provide his agent and any tenant with an EPC (Energy Performance Certificate) for a property he is renting out......Whether all this applies to hiring out a touring caravan...I don't have the first glue!otherclive said:
Damian
Moderator
Caravans hired out as part of a business fall into Gas Safe legislation and Electrical Inspection regulations.
Neither of which apply to privately owned and used vans .
Many people say that Part P applies to caravans, it does NOT, that applies to residential permanent dwellings.ie Houses.
Neither of which apply to privately owned and used vans .
Many people say that Part P applies to caravans, it does NOT, that applies to residential permanent dwellings.ie Houses.
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