Freelander 2 prices

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CliveV

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The adjacent thread seems to labour under the false premise that the New Freelander 2 costs £33,000.

The range starts with the TD4 S at £20,935

The top spec i6 HSE £33,990.

AND - these prices include CO2 offset for the first 45,000 miles plus a 12 year anti perforation warranty.

Thus it is quite possible to get a new Freelander considerably less than the quoted "£7,000 more than an equivalent vehicle" some contributors so desperately seem to want you to think.

I am NOT connected to LR in any way but do like to see the truth on this Forum from time to time
 
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This is not by way of a war Clive, we've had a new TD3 on hire whilst here Clive and I'm quite impressed.

My daughter has just recently bought a fully loaded Rav 4 Diesel, she considered waiting for the Freelander but when she got some info re proposed pricing she was frightened off. It now seems that the car would have cost several thousand pounds more. The other thing is the engine choices.

LR have chosen a lowish powered Diesel by todays standards or a honking great 3.2 petrol that provides little more performance than a good diesel. I for one can't work out the engine choices.

On paper the LR looks a good car but till has to pass the test of time, and what is written into the small print re the 12 year guarantee.

Please don't get me wrong, yes there are more basic models in the range but the car is coming in at quite a price.

Time will tell with this one, but I reckon if you wait t'fter the initial rush you will pick up some good discounts and some better engine engine options.
 
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CliveV

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Wayne - absolutely NO problem with your post! - I understood it perfectly - but thyen I already new that the HSE was over
 
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Gone are the old days, LR dealerships have turned into theme park glass fronted pleasure palaces with Latte Coffee machines and cushy seating for even the parts dept.

You pay for it in the servicing charges. My dad bought his first car off a WW2 bomb site with an under the rail way arches workshop and all worked fine.

Quite frankly I want to know what the car does and what it costs, Salesman in Designer suit and Tie wizzing about in the top of the range sports model schmoozing customers with a fancy coffee and the showroom TV remote control and last months Tatler are not what I want to pay for. It's expensive BS.

Our BM's get serviced in France for about a 1/3 of the cost of UK and if I want to wander in the workshop to see that it's all done I get welcomed and offered use of the mechanics drinks facility.

I had my 4.8 serviced here once and never again, prissy idiot on the service reception who wouldn't know which was the pointed end of the car, all they wanted was to get the car away from me telling me that the servicing was a computerised when all I was trying to point out was that the car had suffered road debris damage and needed checking.
 
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CliveV

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Hi Frank

CO2 offset is where a manufacturer or a club can calculate the CO2 emissions produced by their car or their activity and pay to have a company plant trees and generally improve the environment.

Land Rover are not alone in this forward thinking - other car makers are doing the same.

To be honest I do not know the true ins and outs but it makes sense to me.

Another good example is when I go off-roading with the Shire Land Rover Club I can pay an extra premium based upon what we are doing and again the money gets ploughed into environmental improvements so that driving my vehicle is carbon neutral.

I will try to get more info and post tomorrow. I know I have an article on it at home.
 
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wayne_5097681

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I'am sure BP do an ofset calculator which will tell you your cars carbon foot print, then if you wish you send them a payment and that goes to improving carbon emissions to ease your guilt.
 
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CliveV

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Hunters of Southampton have been very good. But as you say euro expensive! Our local LR specialist is half the cost and as you say - more than happy to let you see exactly what is going on.

However! Land Rover do make marketing mistakes - for example when the swapped their in house Land Rover Customer Insurance to "More Than" - I rang up to get a quote and was told that using my Land Rover off-road would invalidate the insurance!

I insisted the lady check with her supervisor and 20 min later we had a very apologetic phone call saying in effect that the new "scripts" they were supposed to have had from Land Rover and the special codes that would generate the correct script on the screens had not arrived.
 
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RichardS1

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Irrespective of the price I am sure the new Freelander will be a great towcar. Anyone got any info on Kerbweights, max tow and noseweight limits?
 
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I've met caravanners who have had their Land Rovers and Disco's serviced and repaired in France whilst on holiday as it helps with the motoring budget.

A couple in Eire this summer had a minor problem with a TDI and the dealer serviced it for less than half the UK price.
 
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CliveV

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Frank - for info - LR Carbon Offset program.

Monday 20th November 2006

An ambitious programme to offset the carbon emissions of every new Land Rover sold in the UK has been launched by the Solihull manufacturer

Each model year machine will become a carbon-neutral vehicle. Supported by CO2 offset provider Climate Care, the deal has two key components. (see http://www.climatecare.org/)

The first aims to counter emissions which are created during the car's construction, while the second component looks to neutralise the gas emitted when driving it.

The volume of CO2 that Land Rover aims to offset for each vehicle is based on a calculation of the amount of energy used to manufacture the model, plus an allowance for the volume of gas created by driving a total of 45,000 miles. This is based on an annual average of 15,000 miles a year for the first three years of its life.

However, saving the environment does cost money. Depending on the model, the price of a new Land Rover is set to rise by between
 
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This is all very good sentiment about Carbon ofset but who are these ClimateCare people.

Look at the ClimateCare team. It may be the cynic in me but it smacks of a nice neat niche marketing strategy and business set up for profit of some ex uni brains looking for a leg up the Salary ladder.

Of the money they take at CC how much lines their pockets. We've planted 400 plus trees at our house this year plus a mountain of other plants so I feel quite green after checking out the web site CliveV.

We've got a bit of land and I'll be pleased to take a few bob off anyone who wants to have some trees planted feel green and ofset some carbon.
 
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CliveV

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The fact is euro that they are doing something that can be measured and quantified. A far cry from the numpty pseudo science of the Anti-brigade.

If I read it correctly Climate Care calculate the figures so that any activity can be balanced/offset to achieve a "Carbon Neutral" status.

Planting trees in ones garden/land however small/large has to be a good thing.

Where Climate Care scores is that they use the money collected to fund far bigger and more diverse projects.

As for it being some kind of gravy-train for university types - I actually have no problem with that at all.

All businesses can only survive and prosper if there is a need. And I for one think this is a far better, more positive way of dealing with the problem of vehicle pollution than taxing us to the hilt, trying to ban a certain type of vehicle and ignoring the real greenhouse gas culprits.

Like I said, my local Shire Land Rover Club has just signed up to Climate Care. Now that is putting their money where their mouth is!

I wonder how many of the Anti's will be keen enough to put their own hands in their pockets?

Or will they still prefer the "bicker bicker - stab stab" antics they have used up until know as for them it is more about the righteous indignation they get off on rather than what the facts are.
 
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Wayne " 05:36 PM I'am sure BP do an ofset calculator which will tell you your cars carbon foot print, then if you wish you send them a payment and that goes to improving carbon emissions to ease your guilt".

Wayne

My pension is from BP so anything they can come up with to keep the profits flowing I'm all for. Selfish I know but!!!. And by the way a lot of people who never worked for BP are reliant on them for their pensions in an indirect way.

Frank & Val
 
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wayne_5097681

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Wayne " 05:36 PM I'am sure BP do an ofset calculator which will tell you your cars carbon foot print, then if you wish you send them a payment and that goes to improving carbon emissions to ease your guilt".

Wayne

My pension is from BP so anything they can come up with to keep the profits flowing I'm all for. Selfish I know but!!!. And by the way a lot of people who never worked for BP are reliant on them for their pensions in an indirect way.

Frank & Val
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A good cause all round then o)
 
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CliveV

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Indeed - and that "wind" from the Anti's is about as useful to the real issue we all face as the Cows farts that also contribute to the problem.
 
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Pelyma1

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This is all so very funny, lots of comments by people who have never driven the car (this thread and the other)Lots of experts are about the site at present - unfortunately experts in reading magazines!! I personally don't give a stuff what any journo says about a car. I only consider what I find on a test drive. I drove the FL2 in November and a classy piece of kit it is too. Very chuckable, good torque, nice inside, great toys and refined. I bought a TD4 HSE auto on the back of it for my wife delivery due April/May (March build slot)

I heard all this rubbish about Disco3, its expensive its ugly and all the rest. I've owned 2 HSEs and will have done nearly 40K miles in them and it is a great car, but I think I will swap out into a RR TDV8 next (some old tow truck)

I am constantly amazed how this forum manages to degenerate into such rubbish. I'm very pleased for Toyota owners that can buy a LC for the same money as a Freelander2, but they are very different cars built for different purposes. Beauty is in the eye of the beholder. IMO I see no point in a RR Sport the Freelander out handles it and is quicker in diesel guise, The Disco is more versatile and the full fat RR is far more luxurious, but enough have sold to disagree with me, but it is just that my opinion. But I have taken the time to go and drive the cars to see how they fit in my life. My view of those cars I have driven

X5 - fast but really only an estate car

Land Cruiser - very capable off road, rough on road and boring

Touareg - nice car little noisy V10 8)

Cayenne - Why?

Jeep - Too American

Disco3 - Good spec, awesome off road good on it, interior a little poor

RR - Awesome, but costly

And the list goes on, others could have viewed them very differently, but I'm not wrong and neither are they. But for heavans sakes go and drive the car first and stop believing all the rubbish in magazines.
 
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CliveV

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In many ways you are correct Paul but I have to differ on the usefulness or otherwise of specialist magazines.

I am now booked into a "Land Rover Experience" day with the Freelander 2 down at Honiton in the New Year. I took the "old" one round in August this year so it will be a good comparison - especially as we have a low mileage 2001 Freelander to possibly trade in. There is no substitute for a test drive - if you are going to buy. But some just want to read and plan.

After all that is why Practical Caravan tests caravans!!

My point re the magazines is that some will be interested in how the new small Freelander compares to others. The magazine article I posted compares it to three other smaller 4x4's none of which are on your list of cars for which you give opinions.

Therefore I have to say that within the "Small 4x4" class, I hear what you are saying and it is interesting but not entirely relevant. Whereas the What car comparative test most certainly is.

I actually enjoy reading car tests from competent correspondents - the What Car team is well respected and fair in their assessments. What they write about cannot be compared to the gutter antics of the majority of our UK tabloids and so called "quality" press.

Cliff, when the mix up over which "What Car" reports we were both separately looking at was sorted, agreed that the report was of interest and he would look at a Freelander but for him the price was still a problem. Fair comment I think.

I looked at the separate reports Cliff was quoting and agree that both reviews on the LR and the CRV were fair.

As for "Rubbish" being written in magazines - did you know that a magazine not far from this Forum actually ran a three page comparison on sink drainers!!!!!

Riveting it was!

Truly riveting.
 
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Pelyma1

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Sorry Clive I have driven the RAV and the CRV (Yawn)Even the specialist magazine articles aren't worth a light unless you have driven the car. A point in example the D3 when it was launched was criticised by caravan magazines that it didn't know what gear to be in when towing. I don't know if you have driven one but it has the smoothest auto box going as used in the DB9, this box is also adaptive, you drive it hard and it will change more easily and vice versa. Absolute tosh, I've towed with 3 different cars now, from launch - not one has had this hunting for gears. The next criticsm was the locking of the doors as the car sets off - this is a feature you can turn on or off yourself so why go on about it.

In Fl2 several have gone on about the size of the key - it is no bigger than most. They have gone on about the wood on the dash - well don't have it! You are the only person that knows what you like, if I don't like the car you bought it doesn't mean you bought the wrong one does it?

The trouble is people listen to experts too much (except IFAs ;) )Get out and drive all the cars that might meet your criteria and make your own mind up!
 
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