We bought an old (84) Hobby Prestige 8/9 berth a few years ago just to see how we'd manage with us and 3 kids. 1st "proper" run out to a site in york was great kids loved it very relaxing for all. The 2nd run out was to France (visiting the mother in law) and we decided that we liked France that much that we ended up doing 13 trips last year and buying a house in the Charente as well as 3 lakes in the Dordogne. We will shortly be moving the Hobby to the lakes where it will live out it's life providing warmth and comfort for the family.