Log book does not state LPG only Unleaded

[Allyson]

Anybody out there no what I should do for evidence for the DVLA, because they are unsure themselves? When we bought the car it already converted to dual fuel. The car is 02 and was coverted before the car was registered. I do not know the owner of the car at the time so we cannot go down that route for the documents. I rang the manafactures of the LPG and they had a recorded for a garage who not longer exists. How can I get the DVLA to change the log book. One person last time I rang told me to go my local DVLA office and ask for a member of staff to step outside, I knew they wouldn't fall for this but I went anyway,and they said that was not enough evidence.Anyone else come across this? If so what did you do? My husband ask the DVLA today on the next mot could he have it put on there and forward that to them, he said not sure. It's like that programme the computer said NO.

 

[CliveV]

Hi Allyson

To be fair to the DVLA staff they are not qualified to make the decision and probably would not recognise an LPG installation, let alone assess if it conforms to the latest standards.

The system for LPG cars regarding lower Car Tax and also not having to pay the London Congestion charge is all paper based so you need to get a certificate that says your car is converted and conforms to standard. If it was converted pre registration as you say then there should be a record of its certificate of conformity somewhere but if the garage that carried out the conversion no longer operates then this paper trail may end here unless the garage that first sold the car when new has a record.

If this is not possible you may have to have a new certificate issued by getting the car assessed by a competent LPG authorised installer, but I am not sure on this so you may want to try the LPGAssociation:-

"The LP Gas Association, Pavilion 16, Headlands Business Park, Salisbury Road, Ringwood, Hampshire BH24 3PB

Email: mail@lpga.co.uk

www.lpga.co.uk"

They should be able to advise you better than I on this - I am sure you are not the first person to be in this predicament and hopefully they will put you on the right track.

When you get a new certificate keep it safe and make a copy. Despite what the numpties say - when you come to sell the car believe me they are much sought after by people who travel to London every day and prices of LPG converted cars are maintaining value better than non-converted. An

 

[DavidW1]

Allyson,

I think this is really no big deal, you only have to fill in the change of fuel box in section 7 of the reg book and send it off, to the DVLA it's only like a change of colour.

I did this on my car when it was converted and the book came back correctly anotated, I sent the conversion paperwork but I dont think it is strictly necessary.

If you want to Qualify for lower tax and exemption for the conjestion charge then the LPGA are your best bet for advice - only certain systems fitted to certain vehicles are eligible for the lower excise duty and likewise the CC. Transport for London website lists all elligible vehicles and it is a longlist!

 

[CliveV]

Agreed David but the DVLA will not update the logbook without a Certificate of Conformity.

Then, another bonus is that, if you want you can have the cats removed as the car will be MOT tested on LPG not petrol.

If you do not have an LPG car registerred as such with the DVLA at MOT time the computor will insist that the car is run on petrol for the emmissions test and that cats are in place.

With the cost of cats at several hundred

 

[DavidW1]

Allyson,

If Clive is right and you have to give a cert of conformity, I can't rememeber it was over 2 years ago, that's still not too much hassle - go to the LPGA website and find your nearest approved installer, for a small fee they should be willing to validate your system and give you a cert. My brother had to do this when he installed his own system even though he is the trade, because he is not an LPG Qualified technician.

If your system was installed proffesionally the validation will be only an inspection for compliance with the LPGA code of practice and recording other stuff like the test data from the tank, if "problems" are found with it then it is better you find out now rather than later I would suggest.

 

[CliveV]

Hi David - Don't take this the wrong way (I am increasingly paranoid about how some interpret what is written on this forum!) but you have just repeated what I suggested above.

No problem there - but I would also suggest to Allyson that she gets her vehicle MOT'd at a place that is an LPG approved fitter so that the LPG sytem can be given a once yearly "once over" at the same time as the rest of the vehicle.

In 9 years of having an LPG vehicle it was faultless but I still felt better having it looked at every year and the invoices to prove the work had been done.

 

[DavidW1]

Hi David - Don't take this the wrong way (I am increasingly paranoid about how some interpret what is written on this forum!) but you have just repeated what I suggested above.

No problem there - but I would also suggest to Allyson that she gets her vehicle MOT'd at a place that is an LPG approved fitter so that the LPG sytem can be given a once yearly "once over" at the same time as the rest of the vehicle.

In 9 years of having an LPG vehicle it was faultless but I still felt better having it looked at every year and the invoices to prove the work had been done.

Yes you did say that didn't you - sorry, just too enthusiastic in helping somebody get the best from LPG

 

[CliveV]

Hi David - Don't take this the wrong way (I am increasingly paranoid about how some interpret what is written on this forum!) but you have just repeated what I suggested above.

No problem there - but I would also suggest to Allyson that she gets her vehicle MOT'd at a place that is an LPG approved fitter so that the LPG sytem can be given a once yearly "once over" at the same time as the rest of the vehicle.

In 9 years of having an LPG vehicle it was faultless but I still felt better having it looked at every year and the invoices to prove the work had been done.

Probably just as well that you did - my posts do not seem to last long on here at the momemt!

 

[Allyson]

Thank you for your comments.

It looks like a certificate is all that I need. I did ring one lpg conversion garage and he quoted me

 

[CliveV]

If the