Lucky or what !
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Some people seem to forget that its you on the slip road that have to make sure its safe to join the carriage way if not slow down and wait for a gap, its not up to the vehicle on the main carriage way to slow down and and give way.
- Jul 15, 2008
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...........happened very near to where I live and was highlighted on our local TV news.
Note the skill of the HGV driver in bringing his/her truck to a gradual safe stop on the hard shoulder.
Any sudden movement of the steering wheel or panic by the HGV driver would have spat the car out across the other lanes of the motorway.
Demonstrates clearly the blind spots present in mirrors and their dangers........always best to turn your head and look especially on a slip road joining a high speed road.
Note the skill of the HGV driver in bringing his/her truck to a gradual safe stop on the hard shoulder.
Any sudden movement of the steering wheel or panic by the HGV driver would have spat the car out across the other lanes of the motorway.
Demonstrates clearly the blind spots present in mirrors and their dangers........always best to turn your head and look especially on a slip road joining a high speed road.
I used to see it every day going to work using the M4. Drivers joining the motorway totally ignore the Give Way markings and just barge into lane 1 irrespective of whether there is already traffic there or not. BAD DRIVING.
As is tailgating - no wonder there are daily collisions of multiple shunts. Book 'em Danno.
As is tailgating - no wonder there are daily collisions of multiple shunts. Book 'em Danno.
ProfJohnL said:
They are not just "give way" spacing, if you read the Highway Code, they are a give way junction, and you must be prepared to stop. Not ideal, but safer than pushing your way in. And that applies to ALL road users, including LGV's - although how many times do we see the "might is right" rule applied?
I totally agree that a lot of vehicles joining the main motorway at junctions use the BARGE and PROCEDE method of driving . I've often seen this BARGE and CARE- LESS attitude used coming onto motorways straight into lane 1 then lane 2 and even straight into lane 3 (outermost lane ) . Some drivers have this red mist in front of their eyes which tells them unusual messages , the same drivers that MUST at all cost overtake our caravans then for the next 10 miles sit in front of us and slow us down .
PS just noticed this advert on E BAY :- Hardly used Silver Honda Civic , low forward mileage , excellent bodywork barring slight scratches/dents to drivers side . majority of tyre tread still perfect but each tyre has full flat spot , immaculate inside but slight brown staining to drivers seat base , FREE for collection off M25 . :lol:
PS just noticed this advert on E BAY :- Hardly used Silver Honda Civic , low forward mileage , excellent bodywork barring slight scratches/dents to drivers side . majority of tyre tread still perfect but each tyre has full flat spot , immaculate inside but slight brown staining to drivers seat base , FREE for collection off M25 . :lol:
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Test your observation skills on the video!!
Note the almost instant slowing of the shipping container HGV vehicle in front of the incident.
That vehicle signals left and also pulls up on the hard shoulder probably to assist in the incident.
Compare that drivers rearward vision and observation skills via mirrors with that demonstrated by the car driver!
Note the almost instant slowing of the shipping container HGV vehicle in front of the incident.
That vehicle signals left and also pulls up on the hard shoulder probably to assist in the incident.
Compare that drivers rearward vision and observation skills via mirrors with that demonstrated by the car driver!
- Jun 20, 2005
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Bill
Are you sure he didn't have a Sprocket or Gagakev rear view camera
As a tugger for 36 years it seems to me there are a number of death wishers who just have get in front of an HGV or caravan .
I always fit maserati air horns which even the deaffos can hear.
That wakes them up!
Are you sure he didn't have a Sprocket or Gagakev rear view camera
As a tugger for 36 years it seems to me there are a number of death wishers who just have get in front of an HGV or caravan .
I always fit maserati air horns which even the deaffos can hear.
That wakes them up!
Was the car driver prosecuted for dangerous driving? They should have been - if they'd pulled out like that into the side of another car it could easily have been fatal.
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Dustydog said:Bill
Are you sure he didn't have a Sprocket or Gagakev rear view camera
Hi Alan.........that's possible but the HGV container driver still noticed the incident instantaneously.
The car driver could not see a ruddy great truck whilst sitting surrounded by 360 degrees of glass.
My view has always been that ALL drivers should have TWO driving tests , one as it is now on A /B roads and towns , the second being shortly after the first test and on motorways . with both tests passed then the first year of driving the new driver would display some means of showings the inexperience , maybe a ND plate .
One of my favourite issues is asking someone what the indicator ( flashes ) are for , nearly everytime they say ------ TO MOVE IN THAT DIRECT , ie turn right , turn left , move right . move left . This is why you see people signalling to the right when joining the motorway . Most of these drivers believe this means make way for me , here I come , so other traffic get out of my way OR brake . The highway code states the use of indicators is to signal to other driving that you are going to move in the direction WHEN IT IS SAFE TO DO SO . It does not mean , MOVE OVER I'M COMING . As previous contributors have said - Its a matter of Re-educating drivers on motorway procedure .Ok , rant over
One of my favourite issues is asking someone what the indicator ( flashes ) are for , nearly everytime they say ------ TO MOVE IN THAT DIRECT , ie turn right , turn left , move right . move left . This is why you see people signalling to the right when joining the motorway . Most of these drivers believe this means make way for me , here I come , so other traffic get out of my way OR brake . The highway code states the use of indicators is to signal to other driving that you are going to move in the direction WHEN IT IS SAFE TO DO SO . It does not mean , MOVE OVER I'M COMING . As previous contributors have said - Its a matter of Re-educating drivers on motorway procedure .Ok , rant over
All lines on roads should be treated as give way lines - lane lines, centre lines as well as signed Give Ways.
I will admit I do use the indicator to request a driver to move over if they're coming up behind in an outer lane AND I can see that their outer lane is clear for them to move out - but if they don't I certainly don't move over - and I always thank them as they come past.
Having been taught to get along a slip road at 60mph solo, so that I can either accelerate or decelerate into a gap - I do get frustrated when towing and solo cars don't do the same, they only have to accelerate slightly to safely move into the gap ahead of me without endangering either of us.
I will admit I do use the indicator to request a driver to move over if they're coming up behind in an outer lane AND I can see that their outer lane is clear for them to move out - but if they don't I certainly don't move over - and I always thank them as they come past.
Having been taught to get along a slip road at 60mph solo, so that I can either accelerate or decelerate into a gap - I do get frustrated when towing and solo cars don't do the same, they only have to accelerate slightly to safely move into the gap ahead of me without endangering either of us.
According to a report on my local TV news tonight the car driver blamed the lorry driver and made a claim for whiplash injuries. The lorry driver's insurance company used the footage to show what really happened and rejected the claim.
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NigelHutson said:
Hello Nigel
That's what give way means!! Actually the high way code describes these lines a "give way to traffic from the right" as at an island, but applies equally to motorway slip road.
Its also the case the greater the proportion of line to space indicated a greater hazard, until eventually solid white lines means do not cross. I heard of a driver that was prosecuted for crossing the solid painted circle of a mini island rather than going round it!
hmy:That is cheek of the highest order - especially as that sort of accident doesn't cause whiplash!chrisbee1 said:
Well done the insurer for showing the world what a prat the car driver was.
It doesn't need to be a solid line on a mini roundabout - all vehicles should go ROUND a mini roundabout, not over it unless they're too big to do so - articulated HGVs invariably have to and caravans may need to on the tightest ones.ProfJohnL said:I heard of a driver that was prosecuted for crossing the solid painted circle of a mini island rather than going round it!
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