A few issues ago a man wrote into practical caravan to say that he and his wife had been on a long journey to the caravan site and he was moaning that at 10 pm he and his wife could not get any sleep for noisy kids playing outside near the caravan but I don't get the point he was making as he seemed to contradict himself by saying it was in August when children are on the summer holidays and he was near a toilet block if this person logs into this forum can I suggest you go to an adult only site if you don't like noisy kids and you also said that it went quiet from 11pm well most parks want the site quiet from 11pm I have 2 children but unfotunately in the summer holidays with light nights you are always going to get this and I would like to know anyone else's view on this matter.
Noisy Kids on summer holidays
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For those caravanners who, like me, no longer enjoy the company of youngsters it's really very easy to find areas and sites which are quiet.
If other caravanners complain because of the presence of youngsters, it's those caravanners own fault for choosing the wrong site.
If other caravanners complain because of the presence of youngsters, it's those caravanners own fault for choosing the wrong site.
Yes, I agree entirely. People have no grounds for complaint when they choose school holidays for their holidays /weekends when they do not have children of their own. If you don't like it, find somewhere else to go or wait till the kids go back.
Having had 3 kids and having little kids in my family that we love dearly and with my wife in teaching we holiday in the school hols.
Kids on sites are fine and we would find it boring without families around and we used to be kids our selves.
But their are differences between kids enjoyng themselves in the long evenings and little screaming brats out of control whilst parents partake of the campsite hospitality often leaving kids that are quite young to care for even younger kids.
Somebody out their does it and owns the kids who I feel sorry for.
And I would rather be on a site with families than a load of moaners who have forgotten they were young once ;-)
Kids on sites are fine and we would find it boring without families around and we used to be kids our selves.
But their are differences between kids enjoyng themselves in the long evenings and little screaming brats out of control whilst parents partake of the campsite hospitality often leaving kids that are quite young to care for even younger kids.
Somebody out their does it and owns the kids who I feel sorry for.
And I would rather be on a site with families than a load of moaners who have forgotten they were young once ;-)
Hi,yes this is a difficult one,we have children and have to holiday
in high season.My children are now 8 and 16,we have always had caravanning holidays but they have mostly stayed around our pitch
area and played or gone to the pool area,I have always been amazed and worried that some children seem to go well away from their parents and play around toilet blocks or be in the play area long after dark making alot of noise.Sometimes it seems that some parents see being on holiday as a chance for the children to do as
they like,however we have also been kept awake by adults whose children are in bed and they sit with friends in the awning,with a radio on drinking a alot and talking very loudly until the early
hours of the morning.So what you can you do?We have found this less of a problem when holidaying abroad .So the only answer to the problem is,that there is no answer.But in a perfect world....
Catherine
in high season.My children are now 8 and 16,we have always had caravanning holidays but they have mostly stayed around our pitch
area and played or gone to the pool area,I have always been amazed and worried that some children seem to go well away from their parents and play around toilet blocks or be in the play area long after dark making alot of noise.Sometimes it seems that some parents see being on holiday as a chance for the children to do as
they like,however we have also been kept awake by adults whose children are in bed and they sit with friends in the awning,with a radio on drinking a alot and talking very loudly until the early
hours of the morning.So what you can you do?We have found this less of a problem when holidaying abroad .So the only answer to the problem is,that there is no answer.But in a perfect world....
Catherine
You've hit the nail on the head catherine. If only parents AND grandparents would take more responsibility for their children, instead of letting them run amok (out of sight out of mind). If only adults would consider others when drinking into the small hours and realised that when they've downed a few they talk louder and sound carries, especially at night. If all dog owners took responsibilty for their dogs fouling and making reponsible owners like ourselves try to justify too dog haters that not all leave mess about. Thinking about it though if 100% cleaned up the dog haters would think of other reasons to beat their gums together about dogs. Why do some dog owners though think because it is a dedicated dog walk that absolves them of cleaning up? I would love to see the state of their homes, gardens etc. OK thats not bad for a rant after 9 days away and I'm still only in first gear ;O)
The trouble these days is that children are no longer allowed to be just that children. They are expected to behave impeccably at all times, and be quiet. When on holiday however, they are allowed much more freedom and it stands to reason that they will 'go wild' so to speak. I see nothing wrong with children playing out till 10pm in summer, as it is light nights and the holidays. I prefer my own children to be within sight of our caravan even at 14 and 11, but most children will stick together and play together and make new friends. I would certainly like to see more children playing out and having a good time, noisey or not, than cooped up inside the van/awning or tent playing on a playstation or watching tv on their own. As has been said already, noisey adults drinking/shouting and carrying on late into the night are much more annoying. Everyone was a child once.
With the greatest of respect Janet your comment "noisey or not" sums up how people don't consider others. At one site last year I saw some lovely little kids, really enjoying themselves, laughing their little heads off, it was so sweet. I bet the wardens didnt appreciate their muddy bike tracks through the shower block and the torn shower curtains though. Last year I didn't appreciate them leaning over the open caravan door trying to get my dogs to bark or them jumping up and down on my WasteMaster, all a few yards from their parents. After a day it looked like a tip from the kids sweet, ice cream, crisp wrappers etc. thrown about. At another site the ducks didn't appreciate the parents kicking out at them setting an example for their kids to do the same. When their sweet little urchins couldnt get close enough to kick the ducks they started trying to hit them with a tennis racket, all outside their tent where the parents were sat drinking. I don't think there can be many people who would complain about kids laughing, it's what they are laughing about that matters and all parents aren't good parents keeping an eye on them or even care what they are doing. I've brought up 3 kids and have 6 grandchildren so I know what its all about and I'm not anti child. The main postings on this forum are about unruly children, NOT all children but unfortunately if someone posts about kids some get on their high horse and get defensive. If the cap fits wear it I say ;O)
I guess if you are sad and just can't stand kids you should go to Adult only sites.
We've also seen families driven mad by others who leave the kids to run amok and assume that the other parents will put up with the kids leading theirs into trouble.
On one site a guy nearly got punched by a father when he shouted at some kids for kicking a ball by the Caravans, he got told to **** ** etc and just quietly said sorry to the guy.
He sat and watched as the kids went back to the ball play until the father left the friends awning and found the damage to the side of his own Caravan and Car
You can't even help some people ;-)
We've also seen families driven mad by others who leave the kids to run amok and assume that the other parents will put up with the kids leading theirs into trouble.
On one site a guy nearly got punched by a father when he shouted at some kids for kicking a ball by the Caravans, he got told to **** ** etc and just quietly said sorry to the guy.
He sat and watched as the kids went back to the ball play until the father left the friends awning and found the damage to the side of his own Caravan and Car
You can't even help some people ;-)
its simple unruly kids normally have unruly parents,all kids can be noisy but its how they react when you talk to them.Normally well behaved children will stop doing something wrong,while badly behaved kids will either carry on what they are doing or just swear at you!!!! it all stems from how well the kids are being raised by their parents or is it just society today that nobody uses manners anymore.
We don't mind kids enjoying themselves, but when it gets out of hand like playing ball next to your caravan or trying to annoy your dogs then I get upset! As for the 10pm issue it depends on the noise, the noise could be just talking or it could be irratating.
Exactly Ian and Martin. Why some parents get annoyed just because someone posts about unruly kids is beyond me, why do they need to be defensive as if whoever posted was meaning them personally. That is unless they are the kind of parent that lets them rule the roost, if so I can understand their defensiveness. I've only used adult sites once but from my own experiences I can understand why some use them all the time or mothball their vans during school holidays. Thankfully the vast majority of kids are just kids, enjoying themselves without annoying others and for that I thank the parents.
This topic has been discussed previously when the general feeling was that children are on holidays as well as the parents/adults and they should be given the freedom of playing as long as it is not affecting other people. After all we were all children at one time and I certainly enjoyed my childhood and I only wish I could turn the clock back. Live and let live as in my opinion the sound of children playing and laughing is a form of music. When children become offensive and using foul language as if it is the accepted thing then I will agree that those children should be reprimanded.
I find that the unruly kids do have unruly parents, up drinking till gone midnight some of them, making all kinds of noise. Ive never used adult only sites and dont intend to start, however my kids are now grown up so we now caravan out of school holidays. The sites are quieter (and cheaper) usually and peace and quiet is what we like on our holidays.
Everyone is different and I say live and let live, if you like loads of kids running around having fun fine, if you dont like the noise from children or adults change the way you caravan cus as sure as eggs are eggs you wont change other people!!
Kevin H
Everyone is different and I say live and let live, if you like loads of kids running around having fun fine, if you dont like the noise from children or adults change the way you caravan cus as sure as eggs are eggs you wont change other people!!
Kevin H
Can I just say, I was not taking any comments personally at all and I wouldn't say I don't consider others at all. My point of view was just that I prefer to see kids playing outside, getting some fresh air than inside on a playstation or watching tv. As for noisey, I was genuinely thinking of playing/laughing type noise, not shrieking etc, or playing in toilets, tormenting dogs etc. and as Ian says, all noise can be irritating at times.
I hope that I set a good example to my children, and have taught them to respect others and would hope many other parents do the same.
I hope that I set a good example to my children, and have taught them to respect others and would hope many other parents do the same.
This topic as been debated many times before and if you think I was referring to you Janet, when I mentioned about parents being defensive, I wasn't so apologise if thats how you read it. I was generalising because obviously I dont know how forum members bring up their kids hence my post of "if the cap fits wear it".
Personally, I'd rather leave the neighbours to look after my daughter whilst we go away in the van with the dogs, cats and rabbits.
Lisa
Lisa
Why do people refer to children as "kids". I was always given to understand that a kid was a young goat. I also detest children referring to their parents as "old man" or "old girl". Parents are the best friend any child can have.
i agree with some points on here, we are young married couple with no kids (1 dog)..
if i wanted peace and quiet i would not stay on a busy campsite full of kids in the school holidays, so those that dont enjoy noisy sites should maybe caravan at quieter times out of season.
seeing from the other point of view i agree that some parents ruining it for others, i have too seen parents turn a blind eye to unruly noisy children.
Respect should be shown on all sides - school holidays and lighter nights you are bound to get noise until later in the evening but parents must be responsible- say after 9.30 at night to keep their children quieter and winding down for bedtime, after all - tomorrows just just another fun packed day.
if i wanted peace and quiet i would not stay on a busy campsite full of kids in the school holidays, so those that dont enjoy noisy sites should maybe caravan at quieter times out of season.
seeing from the other point of view i agree that some parents ruining it for others, i have too seen parents turn a blind eye to unruly noisy children.
Respect should be shown on all sides - school holidays and lighter nights you are bound to get noise until later in the evening but parents must be responsible- say after 9.30 at night to keep their children quieter and winding down for bedtime, after all - tomorrows just just another fun packed day.
Now here is a good idea in my opinion. All children on caravan/camping sites should be issued with an ASBO as soon as they arrive on site, by the site owner. Any problems they can then be hauled before the site owner and locked up for the duration of the stay.
Colin excelant idea, no joke there is a DOG that goes for a walk the same place as I take mine and he has an ASBO......
Yes a dog, the world has gone mad
Yes a dog, the world has gone mad
Hi Colin
Just to say I agree with what you are saying to an extent, but whilst on holiday in wales, my three children who were fast asleep(since about 9pm)were woken and kept awake ALL night by the people /couple and friends next door getting drunk and singing stupid songs all night, complete selfish utter w""**ers ! give EVERYBODY an asbo , dogs ,children and adults, bet your bottom dollar its the adults kicked off first !!!!!!
( p.s IMHO you cannot generalise)
All the best
Tina x
Just to say I agree with what you are saying to an extent, but whilst on holiday in wales, my three children who were fast asleep(since about 9pm)were woken and kept awake ALL night by the people /couple and friends next door getting drunk and singing stupid songs all night, complete selfish utter w""**ers ! give EVERYBODY an asbo , dogs ,children and adults, bet your bottom dollar its the adults kicked off first !!!!!!
( p.s IMHO you cannot generalise)
All the best
Tina x
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