November issue of Practical Caravan Magazine p73 ( The Vauxhall that is an Opel) & the Monster Caravan on the back.

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Hi to Nigel Donnelly & David Motten. I have a real problem getting my head around the article on p73 of the November Issue.
You may recall that I E'mailed you about the car, (Vauxhall disguised as an Opel) and asked what the Stunning Looking Caravan on the back was. A belated thank you for the reply. However having done some 'Homework' on this Stunning Looking 9.06mtrs long caravan that is 2.5mtrs wide,and not only to find that it has a MiRO of 1960kgs & an MTPLM of 2200kgs;I am further puzzled by the absence of Towing Mirrors on the Towcar.
However,the real mind bender is the fact that this Stunning Looking Caravan has a MiRO well in excess of the Maximum Tow Limit(1800kgs) of the alleged Vauxhall Insignia Sports Tourer diesel 4x4 (as quoted in the Data Panel) !!!?.
Even if this appraisal was conducted on a Private Proving ground surely it should have had a considerably more appropriate caravan on the back. If this scenario was on the highways of the Continent I am sure that the authorities would be lining their coffers with monies, from On The Spot Fines.
This little piece of published info in my opinion(for what it's worth) does nothing for the notion of the 85% advisory match,let alone the idea that Experienced Caravanners can tow to 100%.The caravan if empty at MiRO 1960 kgs represents a 109% match (match,I think not !!).
Would this car only be used to haul the caravan to a site and carry in the car what is needed for the Jollies ?. If they got there without being invited to pull over and offer an explanation,before having the Bank Account plundered.
 
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Rooster,
I don't think that you can blame either Nigel or David for this one. If you look, it's a German registered vehicle (Opel and Tabbert), and I suspect that the photograph was supplied by Opel/Vauxhall. I know what you mean though.
Yesterday I saw a 2.5 metre wide Hobby being towed by a current shape Range Rover, and despite it having towing mirrors on, they were useless. There was no way that the driver could see alongside the 'van.
Nigel.
 
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Hi Nigel207.I was rather hoping that this would have been left alone until responded to by either Nigel as Editor or by David as the Mr 'Towcar'. Forum etiquette and all of that. However as you have thrown a Stone in the Pond,it was David that went out to Germany at the invitation of Vauxhall to drive the car. I stand corrected but,it looks like David is behind the wheel.
Correct me if I am wrong,BUT as Editor; is Nigel not ultimately responsible for what goes into the Public Domain and also David for what he has his name attached to. Even taking into account that his name, nor a reference to "Mr Towcar" appears in the article,he was the one that went out to Germany. Further more,there is a Bright Yellow 85% match 1567kg highlighted bit attached in the lower right hand corner of the image. I will repeat. The Tabbert Paganini has a MiRO of a MASSIVE 1960kgs. Assuming that it is empty of Jollies Goodies,where is the 85% never mind the likely 100% ?. Towing Limit 1800kgs.
 
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Thanks for your points regarding the Tabbert Paganini and Insignia featured in the November issue.

Both car and caravan were supplied by GM on a closed private test track in Germany, so at no point was this outfit tested on a public road. Motty was there driving the car as you point out, and the empty weight of it exceeds the max tow limit of the Insignia. Apologies.

We were there at Vauxhall's invitation and in order to make the test of the car more relevant, it supplied the caravan. As it is not a model officially imported to the UK, we weren't aware of the weight, but in hindsight, maybe we could have checked. I'd suggest that for the purposes of testing a towcar, an overweight caravan on a private test facility is a more useful indicator of prospective towing performance than no caravan at all.

As the test took place on a private track, there is no legal requirement to comply with road laws which is how the weight and towing mirror legislation was side-stepped. There was no prospect of an overweight outfit hitting the road at any time, as the whole test was conducted under closed track conditions.

Apologies for any distress caused but I hope that clears things up.

Incidentally, the forum is an open means of corresponding with other caravanners - anything posted by any member can be responded to by any other member. All opinions are equally valid

Regards
 

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