Just came across this on FB. Not sure how the numbers have been calculated but taking them at face value some interesting results that surprise me!
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What specifically surprises you?Just came across this on FB. Not sure how the numbers have been calculated but taking them at face value some interesting results that surprise me!View attachment 3978
Sadly they do not give a breakdown of how they arrived at those conclusions. What could be an unreliable car on theeri chart may be very reliable for some one else who has their vehicle serviced regularly and on time. Another factor is obviously volume of sales and the ratio.
Motor Easy are a warranty provider if you don’t get the car serviced as per the T&C you are unlikely to get paid out. But whether that holds for non serviceable parts I don’t know.Sadly they do not give a breakdown of how they arrived at those conclusions. What could be an unreliable car on theeri chart may be very reliable for some one else who has their vehicle serviced regularly and on time. Another factor is obviously volume of sales and the ratio.
Numerically, most of the Jeeps will be Stellantis-based models - the survey does seem to show that Stellantis (Fiat, Alfa, Peugeot, Citroen, DS, Vauxhall) models are the ones to avoid at present.Yup.
But taken at face value I would certainly avoid a Jeep. Drop from 98.4% to 77.0% best to worst is worrying don't you think?
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But taken at face value I would certainly avoid a Jeep. Drop from 98.4% to 77.0% best to worst is worrying don't you think?
A blanket reference to a brand is pretty meaningless as a particularly unreliable model manufactured over a limited period of time and maybe even at a different location can drag down the average for the whole brand.
Find it hard to believe Jeep stood at 98.4% must be the better performance of the smaller ones developed jointly with Fiat etcal.😂
I took it from your post #7. Perhaps the word “ever” would help.Nope - The Jeep stood as last with a score of 77%.
I'm not convinced - many dealers of many brands focus their technical expertise on the most popular models of that brand and their customer-facing staff just follow like sheep - the manufacturers are little better. Having bought a VW which shares nothing with a Golf, I experience this lack of knowledge every time my Touareg goes in to a VW dealership.Where brand surveys can be useful is if they contain questions relating to customer support from dealerships and manufacturer. But again they can only show trends as one dealership may be fantastic whilst others not so good. With all these sources of information you need to cast your net wide in order to try and glean information. And then go and buy what you want😂
Then it’s quite clear that you would award “ null pointe”. As your dealership doesn’t come out as “ fantastic” more “ not so good”. So there’s your awarded mark for any survey. Mine for my last car a Subaru would mark the dealership “ excellent”, as for our Kia”s. But I have experienced what you have. My first Kia Sorento a 2004 was a puzzle to the dealership as their main work was on the conventional Kia’s with very few Sorentos in the area. So often I would be advising them on aspects of its servicing, particularly the transfer box lubrication regime.I'm not convinced - many dealers of many brands focus their technical expertise on the most popular models of that brand and their customer-facing staff just follow like sheep - the manufacturers are little better. Having bought a VW which shares nothing with a Golf, I experience this lack of knowledge every time my Touareg goes in to a VW dealership.
Jeep is more reliable than any Discovery or any Range Rover. We were very happy with our 2005 Grand Cherokee and also our 2012. Unfortunately we allowed n amateur Jeep franchise to play with it and then it was downhill after that. Happy with our current 2018 model.Yup.
But taken at face value I would certainly avoid a Jeep. Drop from 98.4% to 77.0% best to worst is worrying don't you think?
I appreciate what you are saying and I didn't want to defend the make of my car in my previous post. I just wanted to point out that it doesn't make any sense to lump together all models and all model years of a particular make for the purpose of creating a reliability league table like the one that the OP supplied. That sort of generalisation doesn't tell anybody anything useful.Nobody likes to see their chosen make or model of car criticised.
Surveys are not personally aimed at any individual car owner, but they provide a snapshot of opinion on what owners or drivers of the models listed replied at the time that the survey was carried out.
No sane person would buy a car based solely on the results of any survey, the same thing applies to any purchase be it a car. caravan or whatever.
No owner of a particular make or model of car needs to defend their choice on this forum.