ROAD TO WORLD CUP

[CarolynG_5088243]

We need any information on traveling to Munster Germany via North Shields Ferry to Amsterdam. WE are hoping to book an site here as we are applying for world cup tickets. We have never taken the caravan abroad before so we welcome any info and tips and regulations for traveling through Holland to N.W. germany.

Carolyn and Tom

 

[Lutz]

The speed limit when towing in the Netherlands and in Germany is 80kph (50mph) and you need to watch for local no overtaking signs for caravans on motorways in Germany (mainly in roadwork sections, sometimes on two lane gradients). Otherwise there is nothing particularly special to observe regarding regulations, just the usual stuff when going abroad - warning triangle, etc.

 

[mikeE]

Carolyn and Tom,

I discovered earlier this year that D.F.D.S. take caravans free on some days - but you have to ask. Worth pre-booking meals too. Altogether a most civilised way to travel compared with cross channel.

Mike E

 

[EvansofSprot]

Is this one of the ones with Bing Crosby, Bob Hope and Dorothy Lamour?

 

[BaronsHuman]

or the 11 stooges and No Hope

 

[CarolynG_5088243]

Lutz. Thanks for your reply to my Road to World Cup message.However as I prevoiusly said, we have not taken the caravan abroad before, could you please supply further infomation ie. triangle etc. include or where might we find the necessary details.

Thanks

Carolyn and Tom Gordon

 

[EvansofSprot]

You've just got to be a distant relation as Tom Gordon is a very much used name in my family.

Anyway look here:

http://www.touringandtenting.com/tutorials/index.php?lang=0&CODE=02&id=11

 

[Lutz]

Pardon my curiosity but what games are you going to see if you're going to Munster? The closest matches are at Gelsenkirchen and Dortmund, both a good hour's drive away, and neither feature any of the games with England participating in the first round.

Like I said, there's nothing really special to watch out for when towing in Germany but if you're uncertain of anything, send me an email. The address can be found on my home page at schelisch.de

 

[cris_408518]

I am fascinated as to why anyone would want see the world cup games. England only have 3rd rate players and a couple of thugs, not a lot of point going really. Surely you can get just as depressed in rainy Wales or Cornwall.

There are enough louts on campsites without being in a stadium half full of them.

We've won the cup anyway, 1966, its not likely to happen again in our lifetime especially with fairy voice as the voice of inspiration.

 

[colin(bridgend)]

Hey half a more Chris I take strong objections to your comments and inference. We have very little rain in Wales and as for thugs you will not find any such creature west of the Severn Bridge. Wales is classed as God's chosen country and is the country of friendship, harmony and welcome. You have done this proud nation a severe discredit and your passport will be confiscated should you ever try to set foot in our fair land again. May I suggest that you wash all evil thoughts about Wales out of your mind for once and for ever.

 

[cris_408518]

Cornishman but brought up and educated in a variety of overseas schools and Plymouth. All Devonians will tell you that my adopted family home county is Gods Home Country so you can forget the claim in Wales!

Having worked and spent holidays in Wales as well as walking Snowdon and Snowdonia area and Canoeing on the Wye many times I would politely ask that you throw your Rose Tinted Specs away Colin.

I was being light hearted about the World Cup, but as you brought the subject up. Over 40 years and many numerous trips to beautiful Wales every trip has been blighted by rain and even flooding in the streets of Cardiff. Crossing from 6 weeks of sun facing the black clouds the other side of the Severn has been par for the course. All though I have found south Wales friendly as you travel North I have found VERY unfriendly people.

I and my wife ignored as a Welsh person enters shops and pubs. Taking seats in Pubs and Restaurants where the people are speaking English when we enter, then after the silence as we take our seats they restarted conversation in Welsh. Have also expereinced long waits for service when non welsh accent is heard, with grunts and mutters and change virtually thrown at me.

Having lived and travelled in many parts of the World I and my wife have been treated by far the worst in Wales and abandoned two Holiday 15 years apart in Northern Wales. Such a beautiful land I even gave it a second attempt years on from my first main family holiday there only to find very very negative people we moved to Bonny Scotland.

I even have relatives and friends with Welsh Relatives who have had the same treatment and a neighbour whose mother decided to spend her final days in a North Wales home in her town of birth was horrified by the treatment him and his wife

received when making twice monthly visits even arriving at a hotel they had used numerous times and having the last room given to a Welsh couple when they had staid there numerous times and had the room booked when they left two weeks earlier! and that was in 2004.

Actually if my wife suggests Wales instead of Ireland this Summer I may join CarolynG even if I have to be on a campsite with only German and Argentinian footy fans :-}

ps I have many German friends.

 

[cris_408518]

ps. Oggy Oggy OGGY was a Cornish and Devon call long before Max Boyce and the Welsh tried to lay claim to it

 

[EvansofSprot]

'Gods Home Country' - but that's Yorkshire and nowhere in the effete south.!

 

[colin(bridgend)]

To those of you who dare to dispute the Welsh claim of being God's chosen coumtry may I remind you that we Celts were in the U.K. long before you Anglo Saxons invaded. The Scots, Welsh, some of Devon & Cornwall and Ireland remained a Celtic race whilst England ended up as a bastardised race of many foreign invaders. Devon & Cornwall many years ago was called South Wales and Wales as it is today was central and northe Wales. Chris I must apologise on behalf of the Welsh for the lack of hospitality given to you and your family on your visits to the Principality. Please give it another go as there are many beautiful sites in south and west Wales where I am sure that you will be most welcome. fair enough, tounge in cheek, I will agree that we do have our share of rain but we accept this for the water requirements of Birmingham and Liverpool. All the best and as I say give south Wales another go.

 

[cris_408518]

As I said colin, I've had many a happy visit to South Wales and the Gower and have friends with a farm where I take my van.

It is sadly a family joke that as I approach the Severn Bridge the dark clouds roll in on the Welsh side.

I only threw in the "gods own" comment to get the old nancy northeners fired up. As usual, "ey up" it a Yorkshireman.

Lovely people, my daughter lives there, we love Yorkshire. The people are Ok as well. They have a sense of humour unlike the northern Welsh and are very welcoming and my wife went to college there. Bit deluded though, Devon is a far superior place, they might be soft southeners but nancy northeners can dream in the ale fuelled dream world

 

[colin(bridgend)]

Chris I must admit that the only cold welcome my wife and I have ever received was experienced in the south east corner of England from Hampshire east. The northener English are a fine breed of people and I would like to class them as being of a similar breed to the Welsh. Again Scotland and southern Ireland have a very welcoming approach to the tourist, especially the south west corner of Ireland (Ring of Kerry, Waterville, etc.area). Going over the water to Brittany (again a Celtic race) we received a very warm welcome. I think it is a two fold effect - how you approach the natives and how they accept you as tourist.

 

[CarolynG_5088243]

In reply to your curiosity, Tom and I are just football fans and intend to go to any games we can get tickets for at Gelsenkitchen/Dortmand/Koln . We chose Munster as we thought the journey from Amsterdan Ferry Terminal would be reasonably straight forward as we have never pulled the van abroad before.

 

[cris_408518]

Well enjoy Carolyn. I wish you well but I would not be sporting any footballing stuff in your car or van on route!

JUST IN CASE !!!!!!!!!!