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I take it this means you are keeping Frank awake Sue ;-)

Apart from buying a second caravan, a trip to the doctors if the person concerned has not already been.

A friends husband had quite a shock when after tormenting her and the family for about ten years he went to the doc and was referred to hospital for a sleep over and tests.

He was very very thankful that he had gone as apart from snoring problem being sorted he will live longer now !!!!

The bad snoring was linked to a condition where you stop breathing and kind of die two or three times a night :-( so the doc can be a worth while visit :)

This is not a Joke !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
 
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I take it this means you are keeping Frank awake Sue ;-)

Apart from buying a second caravan, a trip to the doctors if the person concerned has not already been.

A friends husband had quite a shock when after tormenting her and the family for about ten years he went to the doc and was referred to hospital for a sleep over and tests.

He was very very thankful that he had gone as apart from snoring problem being sorted he will live longer now !!!!

The bad snoring was linked to a condition where you stop breathing and kind of die two or three times a night :-( so the doc can be a worth while visit :)

This is not a Joke !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Hi cris, your quite right its called "sleep apnoea" and the person only wakes up when they are so starved of oxygen the brain "shouts" at them to wake up,starts with snoring but the actual apnoea part is silent as the whole throat is closed off !!!!!!!!(hmm could it be anything to do with the pair of hands!only jokin) Tina x
 
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I take it this means you are keeping Frank awake Sue ;-)

Apart from buying a second caravan, a trip to the doctors if the person concerned has not already been.

A friends husband had quite a shock when after tormenting her and the family for about ten years he went to the doc and was referred to hospital for a sleep over and tests.

He was very very thankful that he had gone as apart from snoring problem being sorted he will live longer now !!!!

The bad snoring was linked to a condition where you stop breathing and kind of die two or three times a night :-( so the doc can be a worth while visit :)

This is not a Joke !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
That's the one Tina, couldn't put my finger on the name for once.

The guy had it real bad and was known to do it in the day, has had some surgery now and I believe has some sort of medication or monitor as he went for so long before he came to !!!!!!!:-(
 
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Hi Sue, My snoring was unbearable for my wife. I was tired from the moment I woke up and just wanted to sleep during the day. For a number of years I continued like this and life was very difficult but, I just about coped. However, on a fishing holiday the guy I was sharing a room with had to move out and that was the trigger for me to investigate further. In the end I went to a local hospital to be tested for sleep apnoea. They hooked me up to all sorts of machines and monitored my night's sleep. The next week I went back for the results. The consultant asked me how I felt I had slept. I told him that I thought I had a very good night's sleep. He then showed me a graph that proved I had woken up 300 times! As has already been stated, what happens is that you stop breathing but there is no danger because your brain tells you to wake up. This usually happens with a colossal snorting noise. However, you are not conscious of it. Thankfully, I have been successfully treated and have now got a quality life again. It does mean that I have to use a small machine (about the size of a shoe box), when I sleep at night, with a mask that fits over my nose. This gives continuous air pressure and keeps my airway open. It's great. The downside is that you have to plug it in, so we have to use sites that have electric hook up. We went to a hotel some months ago and I forgot my machine. I thought it would be no big deal for one night...never again. It's always the first thing packed now. The condition typically affects overweight people, particularly men, who have large necks. Make no mistake, people who have this condition and who have yet to have it diagnosed are real time bombs every time they drive. The consultant reckoned that there are thousands of untreated people. As it is I have the necessary documentation from the DVLA to say that I am fine to drive. Otherwise they can and will take your license away. Rightly so too. I am lucky, Oxford has the best sleep research facilities you could wish for. I would urge anyone who shuffles uneasily about reading this to get it checked out while you still can. Best Wishes, George Tucker.
 

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I can support everything that George T says.

I too was diagnosed with sleep apnoea and now have a machine like George has (its called a CPAP machine). If you'll pardon the pun its like night and day. I now feel so much better during the day and when I think of the way I was sometimes when driving before - well I shouldn't have been!!!

The test is straightforward - I took the machine home so didn't even have to spend the night in the hospital and putting the CPAP machine on at night is just part of life now. I travel a lot and like George the first thing that is packed is the CPAP machine because if you do not have it then you do not get a decent sleep (nor does anyone else within hearing distance because of the snoring).

As George says it does tend to affect overweight males most and unfortunately I am in that category.

The CPAP machines are distributed in the UK by a company called Res-Med and they, along with the sleep clinicians at the hospital are great.

I cannot emphasise enough how important it is to get it checked out. If the snoring is not caused by sleep apnoea then no harm is done - but if it is I can testify that you will feel so much better.

Cheers

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Totally agree with last two posts. I also tormented averybody in an extended hearing range for years. On Scout & Guide camp I had to have my tent at the other end of the field; Sue used to have very disturbed nights at home. After everybody told me that the most terrifying thing was not the snoring but the long periods of silence when I didn't seem to be breathing I got it checked out. I too now use a CPAP machine and I have a good nights sleep (and so does everybody else in the house and caravan).

Cheers,

Mike A
 
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P.S. Forgot to say I have just finished a modification to our new Indiana so that the machine can live under the bed and I can switch it on and off from the bed. Will test it out this weekend in the Isle of Wight.

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Hi Mike, Interesting to hear you say about modifications. When we come to change our van we shall be looking at fixed beds. In the vans that we have viewed so far our first consideration is where the machine will go. Never mind the telly, let's have a cpap shelf! Best wishes, George T.
 
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Hi George,

Yes, when Sue and I were tramping round all the dealers and the Earls Court show last Autumn we were looking for a number of key features (essentially the fixed bed) but I always had an eye out for where the machine would go.

There is of course plenty of space under a double bed but how to get the pipe through and how to switch it on and off without much disturbance to your spouse who probably dropped off to sleep before you. Anyway I have rigged a 13 amp socket under the bed, wired through an architrave switch that neatly fits out of sight on a convenient surface adjacent to the mattress. The bit I have to test is how well the pipe can come through the natural gap between the bed slats, frame and mattress.

Our first trip in the van (before the modification) was OK because the really good and supportive people in our local hospital, who supply all the kit, provided me with an additional length of pipe and straight connector. So there was enough distance to have the machine on the work surface in the kitchen area and still reach me over the full length of the bed. Pain having to move so far to switch it on though, so I am looking forward to this weekend.

Cheers,

Mike A
 
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i always give a good nudge or throw a pillow at him!

he snores on the sofa so i usually throw a cushion at him...if that doesnt work i carefully place the cushion on top his face (obviously not suffocating him or waking him :) )

this then deadens the sound.
 
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Hi Frank/Sue.

I'm afraid Cris is right about this loud snoring it is linked to a condition called "adult sleep apnea" which I actually have.

My symtoms were loud constant snoring, stopping breathing for upto a minuit, waking up after a long sleep feeling as if I'd had a cat nap and feeling lathargick. I did wake a couple of times having chest pains like someone had hit me in the chest as I woke up, I did wonder if it was the wife hitting me to stop snoring as I could make the windows rattle.

I now have to sleep with an air pump and face mask which places a volume of normal room air into my lungs in sufficient quantity to keep my airway open. The down side is I've got the pump for the rest of my days (around 40 years if I make average age)

The plus side is now I get a wonderful sleep. On holiday I sleep near the front of the van and have been known to place the pump through the window and place it on the gas locker top, getting lovely cool and fresh country air. Ah, my own personal air conditioner. Also while in a serious case it could be bad news, it is not normally life threatening.

It does scare some folk when they see me in bed as it does look like a life support system to the by-stander.

One thing I've got over the rest of the party troop is with this machine, two glasses of wine and putting the air on has the world spinning, the rest of you need a couple of bottles for that.

As you can see I still maintain a sense of humor, and I'm dammed if that or a major operation on my shoulder the week after next are going to stop me caravanning, i'd tow the van with a wheelchair if I had to, to have a great time.

Seriously though It might be worth a chat with your GP just in case.

Regards.

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Thank you all for your help. It seems that sleep apnoea is more common than I thought. Perhaps Frank will see the doctor now that he's read your postings. His usual response is to say "what does that quack know?" & deny that he snores anyway. I didn't want him to have to have an operation but perhaps there is a less drastic remedy. I am already using the nudge/pillow methods but the effect doesn't last for long. As for going to sleep first, I do! I just don't stay that way when he gets going!

Sue x
 
Not a cure, but try Boots'foam earplugs for a bit of respite. They do work!

Graham
Those nasal strips that go across the bridge of the nose are good too, but not cheap and they make you look like Adam Ant.

I heard once on the radio that if you tell the snorer to stop snoring whilst they are comitting the sin and make sure you mention their name at the beginning of the sentence it works. Unfortunately when I tried this Fouldsy displayed a skill of talking and snoring in his sleep and argued back declaring he wasn't snoring at all.....claims he didn't remember a thing in the morning. Hmm.
 
Whoops sorry Graham - posted in the wrong bit!

Those nasal strips that go across the bridge of the nose are good too, but not cheap and they make you look like Adam Ant.

I heard once on the radio that if you tell the snorer to stop snoring whilst they are comitting the sin and make sure you mention their name at the beginning of the sentence it works. Unfortunately when I tried this Fouldsy displayed a skill of talking and snoring in his sleep and argued back declaring he wasn't snoring at all.....claims he didn't remember a thing in the morning. Hmm.
 

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