Telly’s gone wonky. Help!

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Our TV (Bauhn 21.5” 12/240v) has become problematic in that it doesn’t seem to be holding channels. I can tune it in to a decent extent but after a while I get a sporadic ‘no signal’ notice on screen. It gradually gets worse until there’s no signal at all. It’s now (tonight) got to the point where it won’t even tune in at all & all I get is a ‘database empty’ notification on screen. I’ve tried a reset to no avail, so…..do I need a new telly & if so, which one? We really need a TV to avoid speaking to each other. (Just kidding!)
12v/240v with DVD player.
Thanks in advance.
 
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Sounds as though it has passed away but a local repairer might be a better bet than those of us on here.
As for a replacement anything you fancy that fits should work. There are specialist models like Avtex but these are expensive and many domestic ones will operate on 12v so if you can find one then that could work for you.
I have kept the original packaging and ours travels in that to protect it and also use the car boot for a softer ride. The TV has travelled there for over ten years so this may help.
Like anything else the cheaper ones are likely to fail earlier but there are no rules on that.
 
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We have a Technika 21 inch with a built in DVD player, it is not 12 volt as we seldom go off grid, very light and cost us about £130 from Tesco about 5 years ago. Easy to auto retune which takes about 5 minutes.
 
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Does it fail on both 12 and 230v? I suspect the TV is past its best. Can you try an alternative TV.. Unless you go off grid do you really need a 12v model?
Argos etc do some great priced smaller Tv with DVD player
 
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Now this may sound a silly question, but is your aerial pointed at the correct transmitter and has the TV selected the correct transmitter to store?

When arriving on a site don't bother looking where other caravan aerials are pointed other than a fixed aerial such as on the warden's pitch or on a nearby house, and aerials are only ever vertical or horizontal, NEVER slanted. Main transmitters with around 80 TV stations or more are, with a few exceptions, horizontal; relay transmitters that get about 20 stations are, again with a few exceptions, vertical.

The narrower end of the aerial is the bit that should point towards the transmitter. If you are using an omni-directional aerial (the flying saucer type) please ignore the above, it applies only to directional aerials.

Go digging in the TV menus and see if there is a way to tune it manually and try that. If you Google "UK TV channel frequencies [station name}" assuming you know which transmitter serves your location you will get a link to the relevant page of UKfree.tv for that transmitter.* Look which channel is used for PSB1 (which is all the BBC channels) and use that in the manual tuning. The channel numbers will be in the range 21-48 - ignore any other information adjacent) and are PSB1 for BBC, PSB2 for ITV/4/5, PSB3 for HD channels - these are on ALL transmitters; Com4/5/6 are only on main stations. Some main and relay sites also have one listed as LTV which is a channel for local viewers.

The 'database empty' message will be because you have tried to auto-tune when there is no suitable signal or the TV only found a weak station which it has since lost. Starting an auto-tune automatically wipes the existing memory contents. If you find how to do a manual tune and it works, disconnect the aerial and start an auto-tune, then stop it after a few seconds so that the memory is empty. Then do your manual tune.

One last item. TV's when they start an autotune <ALWAYS> start at 21 and tune upwards. There is thus a possibility that the TV may find a weak overlapping low-numbered channel and store it rather than storing a higher numbered and stronger signal. In theory the TV <should> ask you which region/area you wish to use when it finishes tuning, but this option may not be presented if the weak signal and the stronger signal are of the same TV programme regions. If this does happen and there is no manual tuning on your TV, if you have a gain control on the aerial amp, turn that down and do a retune which may make the tuning ignore the weak signal, then turn the gain up again once the selection is correct.

* There is an alternative site called wolfbane.com (which I have to admit is not updated regularly) that will allow you to enter a map ref for where you are and will give you the data of the transmitters serving you location in signal strength order. Its in the 'UK digital TV reception predictor' section. A signal of about 40dBuV/m should give you something that works: at about 45dBuV/m or higher you should get a solid signal. If the choice is between a relay transmitter on a strong signal and a main station on a slightly weaker signal, always try the main station first as it may work as well as the relay.

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Now this may sound a silly question, but is your aerial pointed at the correct transmitter and has the TV selected the correct transmitter to store?

When arriving on a site don't bother looking where other caravan aerials are pointed other than a fixed aerial such as on the warden's pitch or on a nearby house, and aerials are only ever vertical or horizontal, NEVER slanted. Main transmitters with around 80 TV stations or more are, with a few exceptions, horizontal; relay transmitters that get about 20 stations are, again with a few exceptions, vertical.

The narrower end of the aerial is the bit that should point towards the transmitter. If you are using an omni-directional aerial (the flying saucer type) please ignore the above, it applies only to directional aerials.

Go digging in the TV menus and see if there is a way to tune it manually and try that. If you Google "UK TV channel frequencies [station name}" assuming you know which transmitter serves your location you will get a link to the relevant page of UKfree.tv for that transmitter.* Look which channel is used for PSB1 (which is all the BBC channels) and use that in the manual tuning. The channel numbers will be in the range 21-48 - ignore any other information adjacent) and are PSB1 for BBC, PSB2 for ITV/4/5, PSB3 for HD channels - these are on ALL transmitters; Com4/5/6 are only on main stations. Some main and relay sites also have one listed as LTV which is a channel for local viewers.

The 'database empty' message will be because you have tried to auto-tune when there is no suitable signal or the TV only found a weak station which it has since lost. Starting an auto-tune automatically wipes the existing memory contents. If you find how to do a manual tune and it works, disconnect the aerial and start an auto-tune, then stop it after a few seconds so that the memory is empty. Then do your manual tune.

One last item. TV's when they start an autotune <ALWAYS> start at 21 and tune upwards. There is thus a possibility that the TV may find a weak overlapping low-numbered channel and store it rather than storing a higher numbered and stronger signal. In theory the TV <should> ask you which region/area you wish to use when it finishes tuning, but this option may not be presented if the weak signal and the stronger signal are of the same TV programme regions. If this does happen and there is no manual tuning on your TV, if you have a gain control on the aerial amp, turn that down and do a retune which may make the tuning ignore the weak signal, then turn the gain up again once the selection is correct.

* There is an alternative site called wolfbane.com (which I have to admit is not updated regularly) that will allow you to enter a map ref for where you are and will give you the data of the transmitters serving you location in signal strength order. Its in the 'UK digital TV reception predictor' section. A signal of about 40dBuV/m should give you something that works: at about 45dBuV/m or higher you should get a solid signal. If the choice is between a relay transmitter on a strong signal and a main station on a slightly weaker signal, always try the main station first as it may work as well as the relay.

Come back here if you need more help.
Wow, thanks Woodentop! Funny thing is, we were on this same site last year, same TV, different caravan & didn't have a problem. We do a retune & the TV stores about 30 channels or so & all is well.....for an hour or so. Then we get 'no signal' popping up until it gradually goes off altogether.
 
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Can you go into menu and search for first time installation, I do this every time as it gives you the option to clear previous saved channels.
Not saying it will work on yours but worth a go. Good luck
 
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Can you go into menu and search for first time installation, I do this every time as it gives you the option to clear previous saved channels.
Not saying it will work on yours but worth a go. Good luck

Can I direct you to my missive above, 5th paragraph, second line.
You don't need to find a way of manually wiping the memory on any TV, just start an autotune with the aerial disconnected and the first thing the TV operating system does is to wipe the existing tuner memory contents.
 
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If your telly has gone to meet its maker.... If your not flush with cash at the moment, you might find a suitable set at your local secondhand electrical retailer or Charity shop.
 
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We use an old smallish Samsung Tv that used to serve in one of the children’s bedrooms - I retune it on arrival on site and currently have I think 127 digital tv and radio stations - not tried them all! Looking at other aerials on site as Woodentop has described a few are vertical but most seem to point vaguely north-west horizontally (currently on the south coast) which I also copied from the wardens van followed by a quick scan on auto tune.
 
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South coast main station transmitters east to west are (roughly): Dover, Brighton, Rowridge IoW, Stockland Hill near Honiton, Caradon Hill in Devon and Redruth. Of these Brighton was a relay upgraded at DSO to a full station so still uses vertical aerials; Rowridge has (and has had since VHF/405 days) both vertical and horizontal transmissions to attempt to counter co-channel interference from France - in most cases vertical works best. All of the other mains stations use horizontal.
There may be some infill dependent upon terrain from such as Bluebell Hill (NW Kent), Crystal Palace, Hannington, Midhurst, Oxford, and Mendip.
A little Googling before leaving home can save much time on site.
 
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We have nine year LG 22in HD ready Tv it not DVD we use it in the caravan and now in Lodges and cottages easy to auto retune takes less than ten mins
 
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Can I direct you to my missive above, 5th paragraph, second line.
You don't need to find a way of manually wiping the memory on any TV, just start an autotune with the aerial disconnected and the first thing the TV operating system does is to wipe the existing tuner memory contents.
Why would I want to mess about by not plugging in the aerial?
TV on shelf, plug in, aerial in, amp on , raise antenna, tune 1st time install, disappear do other things, come back later, sorted. (9 times out of ten, then maybe just a tweak on antenna)
Turn TV off and will probably never go on again the whole time we are away !!!
 
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Why would I want to mess about by not plugging in the aerial?
TV on shelf, plug in, aerial in, amp on , raise antenna, tune 1st time install, disappear do other things, come back later, sorted. (9 times out of ten, then maybe just a tweak on antenna)
Turn TV off and will probably never go on again the whole time we are away !!!
Well this is what usually happens in our case. Tune in once & forget it, mainly. Did yet another retune tonight & it was ok until 15 mins ago when the news was on & it went off, now it’s back on again without being tweaked. I feel like smashing the bloody thing to pieces when it goes off! 😂🤔🫣
 
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Hello Jimmyg352

How you choose to spend your time in your caravan is entirely up to you, If you want to watch TV - then you are fully entitled to make that choice and no oe should ridicule you in any way about it.

I do hope those who have chosen to try and mask their prejudice with humour are prepared to appologise to you.
 
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Hello Jimmyg352

How you choose to spend your time in your caravan is entirely up to you, If you want to watch TV - then you are fully entitled to make that choice and no oe should ridicule you in any way about it.

I do hope those who have chosen to try and mask their prejudice with humour are prepared to appologise to you.
No one is ridiculing Jimmy 352. I think you are miss reading things.
 
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Hello Jimmyg352

How you choose to spend your time in your caravan is entirely up to you, If you want to watch TV - then you are fully entitled to make that choice and no oe should ridicule you in any way about it.

I do hope those who have chosen to try and mask their prejudice with humour are prepared to appologise to you.
Looking at all the threads again ,Woodentop, Audiorob and Others have given excellent practical advice which I too found useful👏👏. I’ve seen nothing untoward. Have we missed something?
 
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Getting back to Jimmy's problem, I remember last time out in our van, the TV aerial from the wall socket to the TV was slack, and I was going to change it for a new wall fitting. That at times was giving a NO Signal, warning.
 
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No one is ridiculing Jimmy 352. I think you are miss reading things.
Well I certainly haven’t felt ‘offended’ in any way! If anyone offends me they get just as much & more in return!
Hutch’s reply was taken totally tongue in cheek anyway but thanks for ProfJohns concern.
Anyway, we bought 3 more DVD’s from a charity shop in Cromer today. 😂😂😂

All she wants tonight is to watch Coronation Street & the news. 🤔🤔
 
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Getting back to Jimmy's problem, I remember last time out in our van, the TV aerial from the wall socket to the TV was slack, and I was going to change it for a new wall fitting. That at times was giving a NO Signal, warning.
That sound familiar as several years ago had the same problem with the socket near the floor on the front chest - found some pointy pliars and nipped up the centre a tiny bit which resolved the issue as the aerial lead then held firm.
 
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Better idea, replace the socket plate with one that has F-type (i.e. satellite) connectors on the user side. They are totally compatible with TV cable, in fact the rear connector(s) on the plate will already be F-type.
Nothing special about F-type connectors and loads of help on line with how to fit them, but they never drop off!
 
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I well I reckon our telly’s FUBARED. Had various DVD’s on this week & now the sound keeps dropping off on every one, so it’s going to the Small Appliance Recycling skip in the sky. Thanks for everyone’s input anyway.
Next question…..I’ve seen a TV by the name of Cello on Fleabay. 12 & 240V, DVD, Freeview etc, made in the UK ( hmmm)
Anyone got experience of Cello TV’s?
 

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