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Last July we were staying at club site I'm not going to specify which club for fear of being 'moderated' (sounds painful). Anyway 4 days before a three week holiday our van was booked to have a repair, (we had known about the fault for a few weeks but there was a wait for parts). It was duly repaired but in the process a further problem was found and the parts were not available. No problem said the dealer we'll call on you during your holiday. Great we thought, the dealer said this is something they did all the time on commercial and club sites no problem.

So we arrive at site with van aware there is a problem with our van, the problem could manifest itself at anytime leaving us stranded. This was a particularly stressful for us as a health condition meant that if the part failed we would have no way of continuing our holiday.

So arrive at site to be told - NO REPAIRS ON SITE - no discussion no negotiation no enquiry as to what the repair was.

We ask dealer to call the site to explain the nature of the repair and that it was a quick non messy/noisy job, they were denied access.

Ok so I get a little upset now and start to read the rule books of the club - no mention of a ban on repairs (although I acknowlede that some repairs would be frowned upon if they were messy, noisy etc). I phone the site who basically refused to speak to us, and denied that we had even mentioned it to them. Pretty livid by now, speak to a manager or something who again is unhelpful but later says ok - you can have the repair done but you need to leave your pitch and move it to a storage yard at the top of the site. Yeah right unhook everything, take the awning down, hitch up the van tow it 500 yards wait for the repair and then reverse the procecedure. In a word not likely and anyway we've missed our slot for repair as engineer books weeks ahead.

You know I could understand this if there were a specific rule or policy but it appears that this a individual enforcement by the site wardens - we saw and have seen various vans being repaired most weekends we were and have been away, with no issue.

Suffice it to say since we complained we were subsequently treated like leppers, we got a vague apology as a ansaphone message but no mention of inconvenience or recompense for nearly ruining out holiday. We will never set foot on that site ever again.

Wc would like to guage the opinion of others as 3 months later we have calmed enough to write this and are in the process of lodging a written complaint with the club.
 
Jan 19, 2008
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I wouldn't hold your breath hoping you will get anywhere with a letter of complaint Robfooty.

About five years ago my indicators failed on our way to a site. I pulled into a layby but couldn't fix them so realising we were nearer to the site than home we carried on. We arrived at the site at 11.40 and apologised for being early and explained we had no indicators so needed to get off the road. We were given the option of paying the early arrival fee of
 
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Why can't you mention which club it is, you don't need to mention the site, by saying which club.

I for one who is a member of both of the largest clubs in the UK would like to know where stand about repairs on site if l was to have breakdown, at the moment l have a breakdown cover that gives me call out facilities to my dealer should l have problems on site.

One reason for taking this cover was for this facility, if the clubs wardens are awkward surely you have the write has member to complain to the club if club rules allow repairs.

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Unfortunately my experience is about the same, 'a rule is a rule' mentality is what I have found. I see no point in complaining either, they are following instructions from the people you would be complaining to. Common sense just does not seem to come into it..
 
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Although there are one or two C & CC good wardens, most are jobsworths and total w******s! Like many others we joined the C & CC stayed with them a year and left never to return. With all their pettiness and rule book guidance, this has to be the unfriendliest club that one could ever join.
 
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Not that this helps, I belong to both of the big clubs in the UK I once about 4 months ago arrived about 5 minutes early on a site and was informed that the early arrival fine was
 
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I was surprised to hear this.

In Summer 2008, on the way home hols in France, our 'van brakes were burnt out by the handbrake being accidentally pulled on whilst driving.

As the 'van was not safe to continue our journey home we stopped at Wyatts Covert Caravan Club site and contacted a local mobile caravan engineer. I spoke to the wardens to ask if it would be okay for the repair to be carried out and they were fine with that. After a couple of days wait for parts the mobile guy came out and replaced shoes and drums on both wheels whilst the 'van was on our pitch.

The wardens said that they had previously had other repairs carried out by mobile engineers on site.

If they had been difficult I would have certainly taken it with the CC as we have our 'van insured with them. It would have hardly been in their interests to refuse us a repair as there would have been a danger of the wheel bearing failing and our loosing a 'van wheel if we had continued without the repair.

Sorry to hear you had such a bad time.

Tim
 

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Rob wrote:

'Last July we were staying at club site I'm not going to specify which club for fear of being 'moderated' (sounds painful)'

There is no problem in specifying which club, there are only two main clubs and the 'name and shame rule applies to sites rather than clubs.
 
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There are questions here that do not appear to be answered.

The actual repair is not mentioned but I assume it was fairly major. If not, why bother advising the site as if an engineer was working inside the van, who would really know, or bother? Swopping something like a fridge can be done in about 1 hour etc.

If it was something related to the actual chassis of the van then obviously the acitivity would be very public and probably the site would be a bit concerned. Robfooty mentions that he 'could have been stranded' and that this was 'very stressful'. No disrespect but if it was that serious why use the van at all? Leave the van with the dealer until it is 100% fixed and then there would be no problem. We have all had to change holiday plans for very irritating reasons at times. He also expressed his irritation on being advised he 'could use the storage area' but this would mean taking down the awning and unhooking everything. OK, that is a bit of a hassle, but surely if he had already been advised things would be difficult, why put up the awning in the first place and not leave it until after the job had been done? At least leave yourself options.

He also advises that the dealer was denied access although it was 'a quick and easy job'. Again, did the dealer's engineer need to drive a labelled van on to the site, or why not just walk in? It is not as if there are armed guards checking ID's.

Sorry, but reading the Post gives me at least, the impression that Robfooty, possibly inadvertently made life as hard as possible for himself. Yes, the site officials probably could have been more understanding but once they were faced with ' a pretty livid' camper I am sure the lights were switched off in their heads.

I would also be curious to know the nature of the repair that required 'an engineer to be booked weeks ahead'.

I think we could all write stories about sites we have decided 'to never visit again', and that is our perogative as paying customers, and I am sympathetic up to a point with Robfooty. Unfortunately I also suspect that by waiting 3 months before complaining has weakened his case significantly.
 
Aug 11, 2009
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As a new caravanner, altho' I've been reading the forum for a bit longer, there are a couple of things I'd like to comment on

Robfooty says he went "aware there is a problem with our van, the problem could manifest itself at anytime leaving us stranded. This was a particularly stressful for us as a health condition meant that if the part failed we would have no way of continuing our holiday." If the fault could have had such a bad effect why take the risk of going?

As for the comments on rules being obeyed and the jobsworhyness of wardens, it seems to me that they're in a bit of a no win situation. The are regular posts on these forums (fora) complaining about rules not being enforced, playing football, loud music/ people etc etc but now when some one does enforce a rule people complain. Do we want rules to be obeyed or not, or only the rules we want to bo obeyed?

Sorry if this is unsympathetic to Robfooty's situation but we can't have it both ways, or can we?

John
 
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As I understand it, the vast majority of caravan sites are not owned by either of the popular clubs, but many will be affiliated rather like a franchising operation.

Whilst the clubs will have a standard set of rules which most affiliated sites will adopt, it is basically up to the site owner to decide if they wish to adopt the rules in total, or in part or to modify or add some of their own.

This can go in some way to explain the reported difficulties some have with bookings. Equally it explains why some sites have quirky rules about some activities, such as repairs.

The only sanction the clubs have with these independents it to withdraw their support services (central bookings etc) and recommendations
 

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Might it be that the clubs simply cant get insurance to cover the associated risks?

Heavens knows what accidents might happen and as the organisation had allowed the repair its sure some smart claims lawyer will be out to screw them.

It's the new order of things these days; pass on blame and sue at every opportunity and I suspect the club just trying to protect itself.
 
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In response to questions asked in the previous posts. Site Caravan Club, repair to be undertaken replace bearings on motor mover (a 10 minute job). Without a mover the van wouldn't be going anywhere. And I know you could say people would help us move it by hand but then its a big van over 24 feet and heavy. Or maybe move it by tractor but that was never offered, what was meant us packing up the majority of the van and awning to move 500 yards, using our car to tow it. Had the wardens bothered to ask what the repair was rather than have a blanket opinion then they would have realised that it was a quick job with no mess.

I would say if you are having to have repairs done on club sites beware.

As an aside we're not expecting compensation, apology etc just an acknowledgement of distress caused. For my part it seems that this is soemthing most people assume can be done when the need arises, sadly not.
 
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I regret that I still feel Bigfooty has not gone about things as best he possibly could. I doubt that the CC or the C&CC would see any member 'stranded' on any of their sites and yes, people would have helped to move the van as has happened many times when for example the battery for the mover has conked out. It is also possible to reverse the tow vehicle under the hitch as long as you take care. Mind you I assume the mover was working at the start of the holiday in order to put the van on to the site. If not, I am curious as to why the motor ends were not removed by the dealer and repaired in house when parts arrived. I do not know the make of mover but having a Powrtouch mover I can state they would do anything possible to assist a customer and no, there would not be 'weeks to wait for an engineer'. As he mentions replacing the motors is a realitively quick job. However as replacing these does require the van to be hoisted as high as possible at the front, so there would probably still have been some equipment to move around anyway.

I doubt he will get an apology per se from the Club because really I do not see they do not have anything to apologise for. They will probably express regret he was not happy on their site and wish him a better stay in the future. I am sorry if my understanding is not what he wants to hear, but I can only comment as I see it.
 

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Hi,

About 40 years ago, my mother worked at the RAC call centre in Croydon. She advised me that, if I needed rescuing while on a motorway, NOT to stop at a motorway service station, but to beak down on the hard shoulder. She said that the service station managers all had "agreements" with local garages, and wouldn't allow AA or RAC vans onto their carparks.

I never tested this, and anyway, I suspect that if correct, things have changed. But I wonder if asking the warden to recommend a local garage would have produced a different response? What does the warden do if his car/caravan break-down?

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I've stay on CC sites which actually advertise local mobile repairers in their shop / info office, and have seen mobile repairers on site. So I am very surprised by this policy and really can't imagine its a widely upheld one.
 
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No disrespect to you Robfooty,but I think you have scored several "own goals" which has made things worse for yourself.

Quote "the problem could manifest itself at anytime leaving us stranded" So why set off in the first place,knowing full well that you could end up stranded,leading to even more stress and hastle?

The site has offered the use of the storage compound to get the repairs done,so why set up the awning?

I can understand the sites point of view,you cant set foot in any garage workshop these days because of insurance,health and safety.Its not surprising then that they would take this view.I think common sense has to be used,particularly when emergency repairs have to be done eg light failure,burnt out brakes that could cause a danger to other road users.In this situation there has to be some sort of compromise to get it sorted out.There doesnt seem to have been any in this story.

Caravanners in general are very helpful,so if you had just asked for help Im sure someone would have towed it to the compound or at least reversed the car up,rather than have a row with the warden.I would have given you a hand no probs.

Leaving things for 3 months,i think is just too late,if there are genuine problems they needed to be resolved asap.

Cheers Richard
 
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Hello there.

just to set the other side we had the misfortune to break down when we arrived on a CC site in Cornwall... the car stuck in gear no forward and no reverse with the caravan still attached.. no motor mover.. the wardens were most helpful. we managed to push the van on by hand and called the RAC who turned up within the hour. the wardens were very helpful use of the phone etc.

Carmen..
 
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Hi. well we belong to the C.Club and have had a repair done to our Van a few years ago..albeit it was an inside njob on the water heater..but there wasn't any problems at all..and we have the A.A out as well on Club sites to our Car...again without any problems....I have also recently witnessed repair work being done to a Van underneath...not sure what the problem was..but again on a Club site...and that repair took all day too.

Maybe it was that particular site..or the warden etc. Although most are obliging we have found we any problems that may occurr. Surely it wouldn't pay them not to let a repair take place...especially if the site was full and the pitch was needed etc.

Chris
 
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Not nameing any club, but I often stay at one site which is a 5 mins walk from Ferry Meadows, and have had to call upon the services of a mobile workshop which appears to be a common sight helping various members in their hrs of need.

Have had to call upon the sevices of a ambulance once , wonder if that would have been allowed on that unnamed site .

Royston
 

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