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Since we have the new forum layout I am getting loads of foreign advertising banners across the top of the page and down the righthand side, sometimes in English, German, Italian or Spanish and none have anything vaguely to do with Practical Caravan. Has anyone else observed this too? I can't remember this happening with the old layout.
 
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Well, Haymarket must be short of money, they need to do something to pay the techies for doing this upgrade....perhaps the new smileys were very expensive
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(I still want a sniggering one, hehe). I don't get any foreign language ads.....at least, I don't think so, I never actually look at them, have learnt to totally ignore them.
 

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I have noticed the same. and to be honest I find them annoying.
If I wanted to investigate Earth Share I would do a specific search for it, as I would fo a new car.
I hate being bombarded with adverts which is why my waste bin is full every week with unopened spam mail.
 
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In which case I think that we don't have control over the advertising - I will however confirm the difference between UK and RoW ads and get back to you (not that I'll be able to stop them, that's not in my remit...)
 

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I don't get any of these at all but over the top of the Practical Caravan logo is a large grey rectangle. I wonder if my anti virus software block these? It says something about 'banner ads' in the reports.
 
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Having lurked around the site using an alias, I should probably now admit that I am a 'suit' at Haymarket. Given that it's my call whether and where we run ads, I can't leave it to the mods and techies to answer your questions.
Simple truth is, that yes, it does cost us to build and run websites. Much of this site has actually been built from love and sweat and late nights, for which I am hugely grateful to Nigel and his team of journalists, and to John and Austin (known sometimes as "Jostin") and the techies. But it does cost, and as we want to grow it into a wonderful resource, will continue to do so.
So how to pay for it? Back when the web was bright and shiney and new I worked on What Car? It cost a lot to build - all that car data to organise, tests to re-write, vidos to shoot and serve. Lots of people used it, and we got the money in from advertising. It was a big success. And lots of people complained about the ads, more than had complained about anything else in our experience. So we listened, and acted, and built a second site with no ads, but a 'payment gateway'. Users could choose whether they had a free site with ads or pay the same as the magazine cover price for an ad free site.
Three people paid, half a million didn't. I rather wish I hadn't spent the money on the test, but you have to agree, it was conclusive.
So that's why we run ads, and build other commercial bits too. It's the way it has to be. It's that or no site, really.
And whilst many people do resent them, many more in fact use the ads. If they didn't, the advertisers wouldn't pay us.
So that's it really. We do try hard not to have ads that get in the way. We never compromise our tests for financial gain. But we are a business.

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Ooh, a lurker who's broken cover!! (they all do, eventually - they burst and make a nasty mess, otherwise
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). We have almost more techies, admins, helpers from other mags than we do members!!! hehe
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Thanks for that detailed explanation, Mr Suit, even though it blew your cover (well, it didn't really, since you didn't actually reveal your alias, rather sneakily, lol).
 
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I have no secrets...had used 'murakami 09' as username - if you can be bothered to look there are a couple of posts on parks in Spain and recent trip to Slovenia/Austria/Germany (in a Motorhome...boo!). I may be a suit, but I've caravanned since birth.
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Being located in Germany I obviously use a server located here to access the internet and I could understand why I'm getting German banner ads, but why also the odd Italian and Spanish ones. too?
 
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Spoken to the Ad Operations manager, and they have said what boils down to this (generalising):
Much of our advertising is targetted specifically to the Practical Caravan demographic, but when an ad campaign has run its course (for example), occasional ads which are less specifically targetted are used. This is done by an automated service depending on one's location.
I've flagged up the fact that you're getting non-country-specific ones, which will be passed on to those Automated Ad Serving People, so that hopefully they'll be able to target better.
(re: appearance of Mr Suit aka My Boss - told you it was outwith my remit...)
 
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John Duncan said:
Much of our advertising is targetted specifically to the Practical Caravan demographic
Oh really??!?!!! So what's with the ads for breast enlargement on a website that is predominantly populated by male members (erm, perhaps I should rephrase that......male persons. If it was male members it might even out the balance! OK Sue, shut up before you dig yourself an even bigger hole.....oh just shut up lol). As I said in a post above, I've learnt to ignore the ads, but the one featuring a scantily clad woman kind of leapt out at me......so to speak. Of course, it could (and no doubt will!!
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) be argued that this particular ad is indeed "targetted specifically to the......blah blah", it being a male-dominated forum. But come on, breast enlargement ads? On a caravan forum? (And no, before you ask, the ad is not one that would hold any relevance or interest to me personally
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Soozeeg said:
John Duncan said:
Much of our advertising is targetted specifically to the Practical Caravan demographic
So what's with the ads for breast enlargement on a website that is predominantly populated by male members

Just logged on and that same floozy lept straight off the screen at me
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I now have to look at the screen from an angle so I don't see the poser flashing her wares.
 
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Gafferbill said:
......like Parksy my computer security software filters these adverts out.
It is only this thread that has told me they exist!

I must get something similar Bill if only to save my blushes
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What's more it's no good for my ticker
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Seeing as the techies aren't answering my query (ohhhh, of course!! They're busy on the 'other' website!! Smacks self on forehead for forgetting
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).......Parksy and Gafferbill, can you tell me (in simple 'blonde' terms please) what kind of security software you use that conveniently blocks all the ads? I use Avast, which I'm perfectly happy with, but it doesn't do ad-blocking (unless it does, and I just haven't realised or found out how to activate it
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John Duncan said:
Do you really think that I would come on here and tell you how not to view the adverts that pay my salary?
I wasn't asking you how not to view them, JD (she says, snidely), I was asking Parksy and Gafferbill!!
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I was, however, asking you what the relevance is of an advert featuring scantily clad women and breast enlargement, on a CARAVANNING forum that is predominantly made up of men (apart from the obvious answer, of course.......if ever there was a need for a rolling eyes icon, this is it!!! lol
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John Duncan said:
Maybe because statistically, most such procedures are paid for by men?
*Another rolling eyes icon thingy to be inserted here* JD, I think I'll just ignore you (who was that?) and await answers from Parksy and Gafferbill.
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Ah! I think Parksy uses a paid-for one as well, which possibly is the reason why my (free) one doesn't stop the ads. Or maybe it isn't!! Hmm, I've got the bullet between my teeth now, some further investigation is needed, I think. Until then, I'll just have to stick some duck tape down the RH side of my screen. Funny isn't it, I never really took any notice of the ads (although I knew they were there) until the boobs one forced its way into my consciousness.....and now I find ALL of the ads extremely irritating
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Thanks Bill.
 

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