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Sep 25, 2006
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I've just got back from the South of France which was fantanstic, we are already looking to book next year but would like to take a portable lightweight quiet air conditioning unit, the nights were very hot.
Can anyone recommend one which is reasonably priced
Thanks
 
Mar 14, 2005
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Hi, reecee,

Air conditioning in caravans is difficult, and it is questionable if the benefits are really worth the expense. Technically it is difficult achieve, as there is a very limited power supply available, at best 16A, but at worst is some continental sites its as low as 3A. Consequently most AC units for caravans have dual power settings with a maximum power of 3kW (13Amps) and perhaps a 1kW (4.4Amps)( See individual specifications)

Its tempting to make the comparison with AC in your car and to think it will work as well in a caravan, but there are some compelling scientific reasons why it will never be as good as in the car. First and foremost is the power available to the car AC unit will be nearer 6kW from the engine so approximately twice the power.

Basically AC units operate on the occupational volume. Caravans have much more volume than cars, just as an guide, a standard saloon car has an occupational volume of about 3.5 cubic metres. By comparison a 4.2m caravan has a typical occupational volume of 12cubic meters, so you can see there is a roughly a 3 to 1 volume advantage to the car. Include the power difference, and the car has about a 6:1 advantage.

Cars also have the advantage they are moving, and this also helps to reduce the heat up take of the car compared to a caravan.

So even of fairly rough estimates it is likely that a caravan AC unit will be only about 1/8th as good overall as your typical car unit.

If you restrict the area you want to cool or direct the airflow in a particular direction then you can improve the effect locally.

None of them are particularly quiet. You can use the smaller portable AC unit found in DIY stores for local cooling, but to make the most of them the do need to have the condenser and coil air flow ducted in and out of the caravan.

So you may find that a simple desk fan is almost as effective, and a fraction of the price and will work on all available hook ups.

A word of advice. Steer clear of the evaporative air coolers – they appear to work at first, but they basically humidify the air, and eventually it becomes so saturated and can take no more moisture. This means the temperature will rise again, but this time with ‘wet’ air and that feels very clammy and uncomfortable, and will lead to excessive condensation. The units them selves are a perfect breeding ground for legionella.
All types of AC units should be properly cleaned to minimise the health risk of bacterial growth.
 
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I looked into AC for caravan and if I were to get on it would be a roof mounted unit as it is the only unit that will meet all the requirements and operates on around 3 amps approx the draw back being they cost around £1,300 pounds probably another £400 for fitting. although they can be used for heating as well.

The problem with the stand alone unit is that you must have an exhaust exit so being portable you would need either to exhaust through a door or a window which defeats the object.

Next the unit will run on R12 so when it expands to gas you need then that it is cooled and returns back to liquid normally done through the evaporator which gives of a great deal of heat.

These types of unit might be ideal for the home or office but a caravan no. if you really need one go for the specific unit if the use merits the financial cost

John
 
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Hi John,
Most of the AC units shave switch able power settings, and the 3A setting you suggest does not provide very much cool air. Other issues are the weights of the units, which will swallow up valuable payload capacity, and the roof mounted units are not suitable for all caravans as the roof structure needs to be strong enough to carry it. Not all roofs can be strengthened.

I already pointed out the DIY models need to have the condenser coil air flow segregated.

And as ALL true AC units utilise the evaporation and condensing refrigerant cycle, the type of refrigerant fluid has no specific relevance. it is determined by legislation to control CFC's and other green house gasses.

As part of a some testing work I did for a client, the DIY type of AC unit could be used (with ducted condensing air) and it has the benefit of also being available for use in the home.

However neither the fixed or the mobile systems were much good at cooling the whole caravan , for the reasons given in my first reply.
 
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We have a DIY shop type of portable air con unit which we have taken abroad for several years
Its really very good if pointed at yourself or the bed at night
Its a Detor Power unit probably long since defunct but is 700mm X 265mm X 365mm
It has a hose like a tumble drier and you could dry your hair on the extracted heat
It is a heater, dehumidifer ,fan or air con cooler but not all at the same time
It takes up little room in the van and is on wheels
The spec is:
Cooling capacity 860W
Heating capacity 1120W
Input:
Dehumidifying 280W
Cooling 300W
Heating 1200W

Net weight 33.5kg
These figures are from the brochure and as has been said no good for cooling the van but great for reclining while watching the Tour de France on TV as riders toil in the baking sun!!!
 
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You may want to have a look at Truma as they offer units that fit in a locker and only weigh 20 kg. The portable ones look good at first but the hose is an issue and they do take up a lot of space. They also clutter the car.
 
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Hi Scotch Lad
The unit we have is only 700mm high by 265mm by 365mm
I carry it in the van fastened to the bed amidships
I would prefer the one you mention but this one was bought for the conservatory 10 years or so ago and as we had it we use it in the van but then its only for a few weeks in the year
I did have the evaporative Travel Kool that C A K tanks sell for a few years and that worked well enough
The DIY shop type that we have are about £250 but at this time of year bargains could be available
Its all a compromise
We were on one rally in Spain where a couple moved away from a German van with a Dometic roof mounted unit as they couldn't stand the noise
Sadly someone on the rally arrived and parked next to them with the same unit
Not a happy couple
The one you mention should be more neighbour friendly
 
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Sometimes I just use the roof extractor fan to draw out the hot air and sometimes I hook the pipe onto a roof light or window
On the last van I had a vent through the floor and on the Jubilee Statesman I had a vent through the side by the foot of the fixed bed
Haven't got round to fitting a fixed vent on the California yet
 

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