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Hi! Just joined and we're currently 'between caravans', waiting for a new one following the theft of our Lunar. Two cancelled trips and one postponed so far, but if all goes well with the insurance we'll be back on the road again soon. We use a Nissan Pathfinder for towing, occasionally with an Astra following closely behind, as we can have five or six German Shepherds with us at times. We look after pups and a brood ***** for the police, then there's our own dogs and the long-suffering cat, so it's really the only way we could manage a holiday away, and even then it's a challenge. Took one dog to France and over the Pyrennees to Spain last year, which was good. Have been caravanning for six years now, and we're still on a steep learning curve. Looking forward to reading other people's posts.
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hi sorry to hear about theft of your van
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hope you'll be back on the road soon.
wow that must be so rewarding looking after the pups i wouldn't want to let the go, so if i every get chance to meet you on a site you had best check my pockets for missing puppies
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Hi Jenny Welcome to the practical caravan forum and very sorry to hear about the theft of your caravan good luck to your next purchase ,. look forward to your posts in the future .
 
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Thank you for the nice welcome. Ann Keith said >you had best check my pockets for missing puppies<. Yeah? How many do you want? Free postage and packing :))
PS The insurance cheque came today, so we should soon get a new caravan to play with. Can't wait.
 
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Well frankly im amazed that you could be allowed on any camp site with a pack of dogs..If you arrived on any site I was on with six alsations I would ask for my money back..No matter how good you claim to be.. you and your partner together would not be able to pull those dogs off a child if they decided to attack..dont say they wouldnt ,,because you dont know Its irisponsible of you and downright dangerous..its also inconsiderate
 
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Why is it dangerous brian?perhaps the dogs are kept in their own space,it works both ways.People/children should be disiplined to stay clear of the dogs space.What i find anoying is when adults cant be bothered to educate their young as to stay clear of animals they dont know and instead choose to let them run up to the animal and maul it.Yes i also understand how important a childs life is too.
 
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bribes said:
Well frankly im amazed that you could be allowed on any camp site with a pack of dogs..If you arrived on any site I was on with six alsations I would ask for my money back..No matter how good you claim to be.. you and your partner together would not be able to pull those dogs off a child if they decided to attack..dont say they wouldnt ,,because you dont know Its irisponsible of you and downright dangerous..its also inconsiderate

Brian in case you havent noticed, this is usually the place to welcome new member,s and say Hello!!! Ummm !!!

Here we go again lets slate/tar all dog owners with the same brush--Irrisponsible and Dangerous. Have you met Loadsadogs to give a us an honest judgement?? Do you know if they are walked together or in shifts??
Oh and by the way there are site's that don't allow dogs, have you thought about going to one of these??
 
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Hi, Welcome to the site dispite some peoples comments abt yr dogs. I,m sure like us yr dogs are all kept undercontrol. Yes it does sound a lot of dogs and I had at one time 5 dogs caravanning with us, now down to 4 after losing one last year. We always camp well way from children if at all possible and if not then so be it. We have never had a single problem with other people or their children and in fact have had plenty of good comments abt how good our dogs are as they are so wellbehaved. Keep on caravanning and I hope your new caravan comes soon then you can get back to jollies.
 
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Look I welcome anybody on this forum or any site..What I dont welcome is going onto a campsite were 6 alsations are with one owner..You have no doubt read about an owners dog savaging a child sometmes fataly and in nearly all cases the owners say it was so out of character of my dog..I dont care if the dogs are walked together in shifts or not,,As yourself this honestly ,,,could you control three alsations if they decided to attack anybody>? As for the question that some people cannot control their children and stop them going up to dogs to stroke them ,,for goodness sake.I am talking about a campsite not a security compound..campsites are were children play..dogs are tolerated and owners should not abuse the privilage afforded to them by site owners
 
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Hi Seth
What I find incredable about your statement is that you think people/children should be disiplined to stay clear of animals they dont know..If the animal in question is in any way dangerous the last place it should be taken to is a campsite were there will be children.I dont know you and you may be an extremly nice person.but I think your attitude towards people and children in particular leaves a lot to be desirered and frankly dangerous
 

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Hi Jenny and welcome to the Practical Caravan forum.
As you have no doubt noticed dogs and children can be very emotive subjects which often polarise opinions on caravan forums although this introductory section is not the most appropriate forum for such a discussion.
I hope that in spite of some less than welcoming comments from one forum member you will continue to enjoy using this caravan forum and good luck in choosing a new caravan.
 
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Thanks, Kev, for the little 'escaping dog' cartoon. Also the signature line 'For every sixty seconds you spend angry,upset or mad, it's a full minute of happiness you'll never get back!!!'. Found exactly the right moment to try that one out on my husband, and guess what, he reckons he's extremely happy when he's angry/upset/mad. I really think he is too.

Brian, good of you to take the time to send a welcome message. Not sure where to start in replying to your comments tho, as the ignorance is quite staggering. Perhaps best that we won't meet on site. Think of the money you'll save too.
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Anyway, guys, I haven't come here to raise anyone's blood pressure. We just try to have nice holidays without interfering with anyone else's fun or falling foul of their pet hates. If you see us around, do come and say hello. We won't bite!
 
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Hello loadsadogs,nice name too!Welcome to the forum and it is a good forum too.
Brian i think your comments are a little out of order.Children do have a habbit of running into others caravans,to a dog this may look a bit different perhaps like a robber.We all know a childs life is worth a lot more than a dogs and i dont despute that fact.Both parties demand respect in their own right.
As for being dangerous,what a farce .I have three young children of my own ranging from 5months to 7 years i also have a 10 year old staffordshire bull terrier which we got as a pup.But by your logic he would have to leave due to the young children.
 
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Hi parksy
I would take issue with you on this subject,,Firstly I welcome any and eveybody to this hobby of ours.and I extend a warm welcome to loadsofdogs { but not their 6 german sheperds}You say this is not the most apropriate forum to discuss.this issue.I disagree because this is someone who thinks its ok to bring 6 big dogs onto a campsite and expect people to welcome them..It wont happen and people should have the common sense to say so..How would you feel parksy if god forbid a child was savaged by some one who could not control three of their six german sheperds?I wish people in your position would come off the fence and give clear.a guide.As you say this is a introductory section...lets introduce some honesty..
 
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Hi im sorry you find my welcome not as you expected. you find my ignorance quite staggering ...you wouldnt if you had experience of a docile dog attacking a family member and the owner saying ...it was so out of character I cant understand it ..The docile dog in question was a german sheperd / alsation and it had a brain tumor As for me choosing a site were dogs are not allowed.I find that remark a bit silly .Ive paid about 30thousand pounds.to enjoy my hobby and I shoundnt be restricted because of someones devotion to dogs I could say to you in the same silly vane why dont you stick to dog shows and put your dogs in kennels..Im not here to raise your blood pressure If i see you I will come and say hello but I wont agree with you....p s I.dont bite either
 
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Welcome loadsadogs, I have been reading all the reply's from your post and would like to ask how on earth do you fit in your van six large dogs ?
I am a dog owner but one is just right for us.
 

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bribes said:
Hi parksy I would take issue with you on this subject,,Firstly I welcome any and eveybody to this hobby of ours.and I extend a warm welcome to loadsofdogs { but not their 6 german sheperds}You say this is not the most apropriate forum to discuss.this issue.I disagree because this is someone who thinks its ok to bring 6 big dogs onto a campsite and expect people to welcome them..It wont happen and people should have the common sense to say so..How would you feel parksy if god forbid a child was savaged by some one who could not control three of their six german sheperds?
Hi Bribes
In one sentence you stated that you 'extend a warm welcome to loadsofdogs' and then you go on to write' this is someone who thinks it's ok to bring 6 big dogs onto a campsite and expect people to welcome them'
You are contradicting yourself and making general assumptions whilst appearing to be determined to have a row of some sort with somebody whether it's the o.p. or myself.
If you had bothered to read the introductory post you would have noticed that the o.p wrote that the German Shepherd dogs were in fact pups with their 'mother', the brood ***** and were from what I've read prospective police dogs when they have grown.
Each individual campsite has rules which govern what type and how many dogs can accompany one unit so attempting to use emotive phrases about children being 'savaged by some one who could not control their six German shepherds' is rather misleading.
For a start 'someone' is highly unlikely to savage children, if you are intent upon arguing with me please strive for a little more accuracy and consistency.
It's not for me to determine what type and how many dogs a person is allowed to keep and I'm not responsible for the safety of persons using the same site as loadsofdogs.
I make my own decisions where I decide to take my caravan and who I pitch near to and I respectfully suggest that you should do the same

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I wish people in your position would come off the fence and give clear.a guide.As you say this is a introductory section...lets introduce some honesty..
Erm, if you had read what I had written earlier you may have realised that I had done exactly that. If you had genuinely failed to understand my earlier comments I will repeat that this is not an apprpriate section of the forum to debate the rights and wrongs of animal husbandry.
 
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I can see that this is not a place or forum I should be....there seem to be too many people who think that.eveybody should be pleased to see a pack of dogs ...yes dogs { german sheperdpups are quite large} on a camp site ..Sadly I shall withdraw from this site and wish you all the very best
 

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It's a shame that you feel that way Bribes.
Forum members have politely welcomed 'Loadsofdogs' to this forum, whether they 'think that everybody should be pleased to see packs of dogs.......' is another matter altogether for possible discussion elsewhere on the forum.
Nobody should be forced to defend their lifestyle choices or face uninformed criticism of their lifestyle in an introductory topic and I'm sorry to say that out of 28 introductory topics on this forum page you haven't bothered to 'welcome' any of them but chose to attack this new members which to me is quite revealing.
 
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Parksy my friend you say that I havent welcomed any of 28 introductory and that in itself is quite revealing ..Could .it...be the fact that I have been out of the country and I havent had access to a computer,That is a bit presumptious dont you think..Were do you get this attacking other members from?Were have I attacked anybody or even their lifestyle?all I have said is I dont think its right to expect people to welcome a pack of dogs onto a camp site ....if that upsets people then I shouldnt..be on this site and that is my final post thank you for your time ...brian
 
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Welcome to the Forum Loads of dogs

I have no problem with anybody having dogs on a caravan site
My only concern is people and their statements this is where I am coming from any annimal has as much right on this planet as any human being just because humans (are the superior species) does not give them the right to decide what and where animals go.
I appreciate it is a delicate subject and dogs can attack children but also look at it this way if you go on holiday in Africa and your child gets attacked by a lion you do not ban lions from roaming free or shoot them.
nine times out of ten it is not the dogs fault but the fault of the owner whan it comes to dogs so if the owner acts responsably and the parents of the children act responsably then we should not have a problem regardless of the amount of dogs or children.
If we are going to ban dogs from sites then we should maybe ban children and how about the rabbits that make holes all over the site and I forgot the birds who wake us up in the morning.
I forgot the vipers they bite children too lets ban them.
I know I have gone over the top and many will say so but all I ask is that we remeber animals have as much right as we do to this planet and its facilities
 
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Gosh, I wasn't prepared for all this 'discussion'. I really hope we don't impose on others, but it's a possibility we're always aware of. We certainly don't seem to raise any eyebrows on site, except perhaps when the little pups draw admirers.
Still, if anyone is curious about our particular setup, these are the facts.
My original post described us as: 'occasionally with an Astra following closely behind, as we can have five or six German Shepherds with us at times'. This is not the usual scenario, thank goodness, but exceptional, to cope with pregnant *****/incontinent oldie/tiny pup.
Ann Keith said she wouldn't want to let them [the police pups] go. We don't either, but the really hard bit is when they get hurt later on when they're working. One of our earlier pups is on sick leave at the moment, having been stabbed in the face. First reports were pessimistic and it was agony.
As Seth pointed out: 'adults cant be bothered to educate their young as to stay clear of animals they dont know and instead choose to let them run up to the animal and maul it'. Grown-ups do that too. And other dogs. That's why police pups are given to volunteers for their first six months. Our job is to give them a happy puppyhood and introduce them to every imaginable kind of person and scenario, so that they won't be fazed by children running up and grabbing them. As well as catching baddies, police dogs are also worked in close contact with ordinary members of the public, taken into schools for talks, and of course, they live at home with officers, their families and pets. As they get older, we get them more focused on us, so they are not distracted by other issues. Obviously, on site it's against the rules to have them off lead anyway.
Brian wondered: 'could you control three alsations if they decided to attack anybody'. No. If you spot somebody walking 3 German Shepherds, it won't be us. Two is best if you want your arms to stretch to the same length, but one is sensible and considerate to others.
He also asked why we don't put the dogs in kennels. Money. Also we get a lovely glow from seeing our dogs enjoying their trips away, so it's a bit of selfishness too.
Reg and Pat asked how we fit 6 large dogs in the caravan. Crikey, there's only so much we can take :)) When we go away, it's often to working trials, so the dog(s) that are competing will obviously have to come with us. Sometimes a couple will go into kennels, as will the cat, but the cost of that is usually beyond us and the pension. Adult police dogs can go back to their kennels (free of charge), but pups stay with us - caravanning is a wonderful way to socialise them and get them used to different situations. Generally we sleep cat/pups/oldies in the caravan and maybe two adults (them, not us!) in the car cages. One likes to sleep across the back of the car. They are locked in. I do agree wholeheartedly that one dog would be just right, and that was great in France last year, but usually we have to make do with what we can manage financially. Rain is our main enemy. Imagine sharing your living space with multiple wet, muddy dogs - phew!
So, that's the way it is for us. Not ideal, but it works at the moment, and between all the hassle and aggro, we often have a lot of fun caravanning. Thanks to everyone who has posted.
 

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Welcome Loadsadogs. It says you joined in 2005 - looks like there's a glitch in the system.
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I have two dogs myself, one Stafford and one Stafford cross. I personally wouldn't like to be next to upto six potentially noisy Shepherds, if you can guarantee they won't bark, whine or yap, then that's different, but hey, they're a guarding breed.

The only thing I'd take a slight issue with is, are you saying you sometimes travel with a ***** about to whelp, or one which has whelped recently? Personally, I wouldn't travel any dogs in that situation. That's just my preference.
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I do take exception to the poster who keeps harping on about the potential for your dogs to 'attack a small child' - sadly that's something as a Stafford owner, I come across weekly. There's not a lot anyone can do about that attitude. I won't even go into the responsible dog owner side of things because people such as that have no interest. And before anyone asks 'how would you feel if you were bitten by a GSD?' - Well, I can answer that, I was bitten three or four times by a GSD. But the circumstances were: it was a guard dog on the loose, I was aged ten. I climed over a gate into the yard where it was guarding. I read the big warning signs on the gate and stables, but chose to ignore them. My fault.
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Anyway, no offence intended.

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Ok,
Firstly Loads of Dogs a big woof woof and welcome from an old dog and his pack
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We have had dogs all our lives and only one thing matters. The owners!!
See my signature below. You enjoy all your GSDs .
Please can we ditch this antiquated concilliatory insulting old fashioned term "Alsatian".
Three very good friends of mine have a GSD and two SBT. Correctly trained and loved any dog will be well behaved and no menace. My two will bark loudly if an unknown walks into the caravan or awning but never attack. They don't know how to attack or bite, trained out of them years ago.
Come on Bribes get a reality check. There are not many sites that will allow more than 2 or 3 dogs so the chances of you being upset are pretty remote. Six dogs is a lot in a caravan but perhaps they have triple bunk beds??
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I hope you enjoy your new caravan Loads of dogs and can tell us all about some of your travels.
I bet you get through some poo bags
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