ATC activation

[Icaru5]

Sorry, Hutch, I stand corrected …

Just ordered myself 3 tubs. Paid extra for delivery so should be here in time for Christmas ! :evil:

 

[Craigyoung]

:lol: :lol:

 

[otherclive]

Sorry, Hutch, I stand corrected …

Just ordered myself 3 tubs. Paid extra for delivery so should be here in time for Christmas ! :evil:

Which Christmas are we talking about. ......... 2019 et seq

 

[Niall_McIntosh]

Sorry, Hutch, I stand corrected …

Just ordered myself 3 tubs. Paid extra for delivery so should be here in time for Christmas ! :evil:

Bailey's delivery charge of £565 is a bit steep for 3 tubs............

 

[waffler]

Brake lights operate on the car's pedal so brake lights wont come on if the ATC operates.

 

[Icaru5]

Brake lights operate on the car's pedal so brake lights wont come on if the ATC operates.

I have no idea about whether or not the caravan’s brake lights illuminate during an ATC intervention, but on modern vehicles with features such as ACC, and ECB, the the brake lights are also activated whenever either of the aforementioned (or similar) systems intervenes enough to apply the vehicles brakes without the driver pressing the brake pedal.

Much more than just a pedal activated switch !

 

[Icaru5]

Brake lights operate on the car's pedal so brake lights wont come on if the ATC operates.

I have no idea about whether or not the caravan’s brake lights illuminate during an ATC intervention, but on modern vehicles with features such as ACC, and ECB, the the brake lights are also activated whenever either of the aforementioned (or similar) systems intervenes enough to apply the vehicles brakes without the driver pressing the brake pedal.

Much more than just a pedal activated switch these days Waffler !

 

[otherclive]

Brake lights operate on the car's pedal so brake lights wont come on if the ATC operates.

I have no idea about whether or not the caravan’s brake lights illuminate during an ATC intervention, but on modern vehicles with features such as ACC, and ECB, the the brake lights are also activated whenever either of the aforementioned (or similar) systems intervenes enough to apply the vehicles brakes without the driver pressing the brake pedal.

Much more than just a pedal activated switch these days Waffler !

Alko ATC website specifically states that ATC doesn't activate the brake lights as I guess that in some circumstances ATC will be "gently" operating and to keep lighting the brake lights would be a nuisance to following drivers. A bit like stop-start that restarts when you engage neutral and then take your foot off the brake at traffic lights/junctions.

Re the hard braking of ATC reported by Simple and Hutch I have watched several ATC demo videos and none show it having to deal with anything like the snaking reported in those two posts. Yet on the demo videos when ATC is de-coupled the van really does snake. A stability aid control system such as ATC should activate before a snake becomes that obvious to the driver, and shout demand high breaking loads. I wonder if it was set set up correctly or whether brake wear and/or cable stretch has introduced a "time lag" effect into the system. Such that ATC then has no option but to exert maximum braking force, to the extent that the caravan wheels may lock.

 

[xtrailman]

You can monitor the ATC status, along with any activations logged on a journey using the Swift command App available with high end models from 2017 onwards fitted with ATC, or all models from 2018.

We use it on every journey, and I have noticed every intervention that's been logged. wife monitors it on her mobile via Bluetooth.

 

[Hutch]

You can monitor the ATC status, along with any activations logged on a journey using the Swift command App available with high end models from 2017 onwards fitted with ATC, or all models from 2018.

We use it on every journey, and I have noticed every intervention that's been logged. wife monitors it on her mobile via Bluetooth.

So is it activating, often , or just at times?

 

[Simple_Life]

Brake lights operate on the car's pedal so brake lights wont come on if the ATC operates.

I have no idea about whether or not the caravan’s brake lights illuminate during an ATC intervention, but on modern vehicles with features such as ACC, and ECB, the the brake lights are also activated whenever either of the aforementioned (or similar) systems intervenes enough to apply the vehicles brakes without the driver pressing the brake pedal.

Much more than just a pedal activated switch these days Waffler !

Alko ATC website specifically states that ATC doesn't activate the brake lights as I guess that in some circumstances ATC will be "gently" operating and to keep lighting the brake lights would be a nuisance to following drivers. A bit like stop-start that restarts when you engage neutral and then take your foot off the brake at traffic lights/junctions.

Re the hard braking of ATC reported by Simple and Hutch I have watched several ATC demo videos and none show it having to deal with anything like the snaking reported in those two posts. Yet on the demo videos when ATC is de-coupled the van really does snake. A stability aid control system such as ATC should activate before a snake becomes that obvious to the driver, and shout demand high breaking loads. I wonder if it was set set up correctly or whether brake wear and/or cable stretch has introduced a "time lag" effect into the system. Such that ATC then has no option but to exert maximum braking force, to the extent that the caravan wheels may lock.

My snake was very sudden, literally from nothing to weave in a second, perhaps this could explain the locking of brakes. (New caravan too)

Not complaining tho.

 

[xtrailman]

Answer to two posts above.
Just odd times, most on one trip was twice, one was when I cut over a mini hump roundabout. I noticed both.

 

[Hutch]

Answer to two posts above.
Just odd times, most on one trip was twice, one was when I cut over a mini hump roundabout. I noticed both.

This is interesting, I have felt the van pull me back at time at slow speed, just going out of sites, just a touch, nothing much.

To retell my "big snake" incident, I was driving up a long hill on the M40 decided to pass, an HGV, stupidly went up to 65 ish, on the speedo, just as the Caravan back end was about to pass.(I have a rear view camera) the van went into
The rapid snake, the ATC. Kicked hard after the 3rd, very rapid and big swing and released after almost immediately, by which time the car and van were straight.
On getting to destination , I realised the Caravan had been heavily overloaded at the back, under the side bed. . Never had the problem again.

I now load the caravan totally differently.