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Has anybody used Elecsol 110 Carbon what were they like, is the carbon a gimmick and what would be your opinion on this battery?EFB and carbon are supposed to be best, apparently.
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Nordstar

12v 100ah Carbon EFB Leisure Battery

Carbon EFB batteries are intended primarily for vehicles and leisure applications

Made in Europe

ideal for Caravans, Motorhomes and Boats. Their failure-free operation, high durability and excellent electrical

Parameters have been achieved due to the use of thicker electrodes made in 3Dx technology, the implementation

of an innovative method of seasoning and the use of modern carbon additives

 
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I had one but to be honest I couldn’t tell the difference between the Elecsol and a standard leisure battery. What did disappoint me was that it’s carrying handle broke and neither the internet supplier nor Elecsol were particularly helpful to put it mildly. If you search this forum you will find threads on Elecsol going back circa 2010-4

The one you are interested is Nordstar which could be confused with Northstar a big battery manufacturer worldwide. Also the Nordstar doesn’t show if it has been assessed in any of the NCC categories for leisure battery. These provide a guide as to the suitability of the battery for different leisure uses. There are three categories A, B, C. Category A is the best if you have a mover and also plan to go off grid for periods. Category C more suitable if you are on EHU mainly. For what is worth I now use Banner.
 
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Surely it is immaterial what the Elecsol batteries were like as Elecsol no longer exist.

I suppose the relevant question is "what are the currently available alternatives to the Elecsol like?"

From the reviews I have read, the Elecsol was not a good battery, poor performance, early failure and an expensive waste of money as well as very poor customer relations.
 
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Surely it is immaterial what the Elecsol batteries were like as Elecsol no longer exist.

I suppose the relevant question is "what are the currently available alternatives to the Elecsol like?"

From the reviews I have read, the Elecsol was not a good battery, poor performance, early failure and an expensive waste of money as well as very poor customer relations.
, this is why i quoted elecsol, re carbon stuff
 
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, this is why i quoted elecsol, re carbon stuff
If you search historical threads you will see that my first Elecsol lasted several years problem free. But it didn’t show any better performance in my use than any other lead acid battery. But just looking at the details that you have provided it doesn’t really say anything of note. It’s just marketing blurb. What’s “innovative seasoning”. If it’s failure free why only a four year guarantee. What is 3Dx technology.
if carbon batteries for leisure use are such a good idea why after nearly 20 years don’t other mainstream manufacturers make them?
Lastly as far as I can see only one company is marketing them and I suspect that the name Nordstar has been deliberately chosen to associate with North Star who are a global company specialising in high tech battery and energy systems.
 
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If you search historical threads you will see that my first Elecsol lasted several years problem free. But it didn’t show any better performance in my use than any other lead acid battery. But just looking at the details that you have provided it doesn’t really say anything of note. It’s just marketing blurb. What’s “innovative seasoning”. If it’s failure free why only a four year guarantee. What is 3Dx technology.
if carbon batteries for leisure use are such a good idea why after nearly 20 years don’t other mainstream manufacturers make them?
Lastly as far as I can see only one company is marketing them and I suspect that the name Nordstar has been deliberately chosen to associate with North Star who are a global company specialising in high tech battery and energy systems.
When I first saw the O/P's post It had the hint of it being advertising, and I was about to flag it up to the mods until I saw it wasn't a brand new account.

Bearing in mind the vast amount of interest in battery evolution over recent years, I personally think its highly unlikely a small company could make such a step change in construction and chemicals, in an area where the big boys have been trying for years and with much bigger development budgets.

As you say clive, if its wers so beneficial, why is only one small company pushing it, when they could have made much more profit from licencing the properties to other companies. The type of claims being make makes me think of tyre bands, and the sole efforts of one company to hoodwink caravanners into thinking there are the best thing since the invention of the wheel!

The forums have several threads about this company and it's products, and doesn't smell of roses.

I would love to be proved wrong on this one, but I shan't be sniffing the scent, or buying shares in the company.
 
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The background to this thread may be of interest...

On 9 October 2019, on another forum, ‘freeflow’ sought advice on replacement leisure batteries for his 2006 Adria motorhome.

Three possibilities were suggested in the immediate response to freeflow’s enquiry and one of these was the Nord Star EFB battery mentioned here in this thread’s initial posting on 20 January 2020.

The original October 2019 thread ran out of steam after one day, but was resurrected by freeflow on 18 January 2020 asking about the Nord Star battery’s suitability. An unproductive discussion about Elecsol and ‘carbon’ batteries then ensued, though this had little useful relevance to freeflow’s requirements.

On 21 January 2020 freeflow said that he had decided to buy Exide ET650 batteries.

(For the record, ZAP Batteries in Poland make the Nord Star-labelled batteries marketed in the UK by Alpha Batteries ( Images of ZAP and Nord Star batteries below).

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The background to this thread may be of interest...

On 9 October 2019, on another forum, ‘freeflow’ sought advice on replacement leisure batteries for his 2006 Adria motorhome.

Three possibilities were suggested in the immediate response to freeflow’s enquiry and one of these was the Nord Star EFB battery mentioned here in this thread’s initial posting on 20 January 2020.

The original October 2019 thread ran out of steam after one day, but was resurrected by freeflow on 18 January 2020 asking about the Nord Star battery’s suitability. An unproductive discussion about Elecsol and ‘carbon’ batteries then ensued, though this had little useful relevance to freeflow’s requirements.

On 21 January 2020 freeflow said that he had decided to buy Exide ET650 batteries.

(For the record, ZAP Batteries in Poland make the Nord Star-labelled batteries marketed in the UK by Alpha Batteries ( Images of ZAP and Nord Star batteries below).

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I had an Elecsol almost as they were first placed on the market. There were some fairly basic comparative tests carried out by the CMHC which really didn’t show any significant advantage over other quality makes. My first Elecsol gave good service and when I sold the caravan it went with it. I bought another to install in my follow on caravan. Electrically it did the job until a handle broke and dealing with the Internet supplier and then Elecsol was a nightmare. Eventually I received a replacement battery but had to return the damaged one. What folks don’t realise is that a used battery is classified as hazardous waste and I couldn’t find a courier licensed to carry it. Eventually the internet supplier agreed for their courier to pick it up providing it was totally sealed with its vent plugs in and wrapped in hd plastic and boxed. At my cost too Totally outwith what was then the SoGA After that I decided no more internet batteries for me.
I note that these latest iterations have no NCC rating A, B or C. My present battery is a bog standard Banner lead acid rated A. And whilst it cost me a few pounds more to buy locally I have the assurance of a good warranty and a local company if anything goes wrong.
 
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I’m not sure what your comment I note that these latest iterations have no NCC rating A, B or C” refers to.

The UK importer/vendor of Elecsol-branded vehicle/leisure batteries ceased trading in the UK in 2013 and the Elecsol brand-name has not been revived since then (or a least not revived where vehicle batteries are concerned).

The NCC’s Verified Leisure Battery Scheme is a laudable attempt to help leisure-vehicle owners choose batteries suitable for their needs. However, it is well recognised that the scheme lacks transparency regarding the ‘verification’ process and the separation of batteries into three groups (A, B or C) is overly simplistic and takes little account of battery-type and no account of cost.

Two Banner batteries appear in Class A of the NCC Scheme and both of these (Banner references 60501 and 59201) are “Running Bull” AGM type intended for starting vehicles that have a start/stop energy recuperation system. This type of battery requires a specialised AGM charging regimen to maximise performance and ensure good longevity.

Five Banner batteries appear in Class B of the NCC Scheme (95751, 95901, 96051, 96351 and 96801) and all five are “Energy Bull” wet-acid ‘maintainable’ batteries advertised for deep-cycling applications rather than engine starting. These batteries need keeping a close eye on as heavy use can demand that their electrolyte be regularly topped up.

Within Class C of the NCC Scheme are five smaller-capacity Banner “Energy Bull” batteries. Also five Banner “Power Bull Professional” batteries aimed at modern cars without a start-stop system.

The Exide ET650 battery that freeflow planned to buy a pair of is a traditional wet-acid battery with a deep-cycling capability. It appears in Class A of the NCC Scheme.
 
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thank you for your feedback. My comments re NCC categorisation were based on the fact that when I viewed the Nord Star/Alpha website it didn’t say anything about category rating.

I was aware that Elecsol ceased trading some years back although I had understood the batteries to be U.K. made. But you may have other information.

Whilst the NCC battery categorising scheme isn’t perfect it does at least attempt to assist the end user in making a decision on what battery “ grade” to select. Although I cannot see what cost and battery type has to do deciding what “ grade” the user may require. To throw a whole load of other variable into the scheme would probably make it unworkable. After all it is not Which.

Had I realised that you would be conducting such a study I would have checked my battery. It is Banner Energy Bull 95751 Grade B not A as I hadn’t planned significant periods off grid and engine starting wasn’t required. Apologies for taking up your time.

Regarding its maintenance it is quiet modest in that I’ve had it since spring 2019 and haven’t had to top it up yet. I check it when I bring it back from the caravan when it’s in store. It then sits on a CTEK charger when at the house. Over the years I have had a caravan I’ve never really felt that battery maintenance was a particularly irksome or time consuming task.
 

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