hi neil. we stayed at camping kirchzarten,what a choice.little more expensive,but for the price you are given a ticket that allows you on all public transport in black forest, FREE. there is also a huge pool complex next door,also free, you are issued with wristband.take train to titisee its a must.also freiburg.oh and if you stay, put your head round the door of the local village church,you'll be amazed. regards pat