CAMC: SHOULD SITE WARDENS BE EXPECTED TO ALLOW ACCESS TO THOSE THAT ARE LATE UPON ARRIVAL?

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As per title: It would be interesting to hear what others have to say about this.

Sorry PC for previous post regarding negative camc site review.

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Some sites don't have a late arrivals area so anyone turning up "after hours" is going to have a problem, most sites say arrivals are okay up to 8.00pm but if running late I know most site wardens will try and help, happened to us a few years back at Cirencester due to an accident on the M42. We phoned ahead and explained and the warden said not a problem, just ring once arrived (around 8.15pm from memory) and he came out to us, let us in and told us to come to the office the next day to pay.
 
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Some sites don't have a late arrivals area so anyone turning up "after hours" is going to have a problem, most sites say arrivals are okay up to 8.00pm but if running late I know most site wardens will try and help, happened to us a few years back at Cirencester due to an accident on the M42. We phoned ahead and explained and the warden said not a problem, just ring once arrived (around 8.15pm from memory) and he came out to us, let us in and told us to come to the office the next day to pay.
That was all very reasonable Gary and many wardens would be prepared to accommodate after the 8pm cut off but ofcourse only if they're on site and not out for the evening. But judging by the camc review I previously posted, it just serves to demonstrate how much grief they get from the demanding, entitled few.
 
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That was all very reasonable Gary and many wardens would be prepared to accommodate after the 8pm cut off but ofcourse only if they're on site and not out for the evening. But judging by the camc review I previously posted, it just serves to demonstrate how much grief they get from the demanding, entitled few.
A site is unlikely not to have a warden on safety grounds. I’ve always found Wardens on both clubs’ site as friendly and helpful. One trip heading south from Yorkshire we had two dogs with bad tummies so we did consider just dashing for home rather than the overnight stopover. I phoned the wardens who said not a problem but if we do decide to stopover they would reserve us a pitch next to the gate in to the forest so the dogs could be taken out quickly. We opted for the stopover to give us and the dogs a break.
 
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I would not "expect" a warden to work out of hours to suit late arrivals.
This is frequently provided by a late arrivals area where the site has room and permission to have that feature. I would certainly not expect site access as opposed to using the late arrivals area.
Whilst it is our leisure activity, for them it is their employment on a contractual base, hours duties etc.

That they do quite frequently I take very much as a privilege rather than my "right".

As said where going to sites without a late arrival provision, where for whatever reason we were likely to be late I would ring, before the deadline time to update them on our predicament. If that yielded an offer I would graciously accept it, if not I would, and have explored the 5 van on route options.
 
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Whilst it is our leisure activity, for them it is their employment on a contractual base, hours duties etc.
Exactly that.

We could equally ask 'should we pay site wardens their overtime rate if we ask them to be available for our late arrival?'

As said where going to sites without a late arrival provision, where for whatever reason we were likely to be late I would ring, before the deadline time to update them on our predicament. If that yielded an offer I would graciously accept it
I'd probably offer them a bottle of wine as a thank you as well.
 
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The sites terms an conditions are what a caravanner is bound by when they agree a booking it's a contract. Caravanners should be prepared to accept any limitations set out by the T&C's. However if a warden is happy to bend the rules then that's fine, but they are not obliged to.

It's a generally accepted ethic that all capitol questions or answered are unacceptable.
 
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The sites terms an conditions are what a caravanner is bound by when they agree a booking it's a contract. Caravanners should be prepared to accept any limitations set out by the T&C's. However if a warden is happy to bend the rules then that's fine, but they are not obliged to.

It's a generally accepted ethic that all capitol questions or answered are unacceptable.
Exactly! Many years back we were very late arriving to a site but after keeping the wardens up to date where we were on that stinking hot day, they very kindly bent the rules and gave us a empty pitch for the night just in front of the barrier to minimise disturbance. Naturally we quickly discovered their choice of wine so bought a couple of bottles to reflect our gratitude and thanks. Stuff like that makes the world go 'round!
 
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...Naturally we quickly discovered their choice of wine so bought a couple of bottles to reflect our gratitude and thanks. Stuff like that makes the world go 'round!

That's a clever trick how do you do it "naturally"?

I can imagine the conversation going, " Hi. I'm Prof John L. I'm booked on your site, but our journeys been delayed. What's your favourite wine, and will you allow us to arrive late....please"
 
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...Naturally we quickly discovered their choice of wine so bought a couple of bottles to reflect our gratitude and thanks. Stuff like that makes the world go 'round!

That's a clever trick how do you do it "naturally"?

I can imagine the conversation going, " Hi. I'm Prof John L. I'm booked on your site, but our journeys been delayed. What's your favourite wine, and will you allow us to arrive late....please"
It was either wine or a jug of fruity Pimms🤭
 
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It was either wine or a jug of fruity Pimms🤭
Johnny Walker, Red label please.

Being serious, I would ask if they have a late arrival bay. If Not, try and find a very open / busy layby with HGV's. If police ask why your parked up then explain, I don't think there would be a problem.
 
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Johnny Walker, Red label please.

Being serious, I would ask if they have a late arrival bay. If Not, try and find a very open / busy layby with HGV's. If police ask why your parked up then explain, I don't think there would be a problem.
Yes thats good advice. Luckily it only happened the once but I remember us in hysterics shooshing each other whilst crunching over the stones on the hard pitch! The wardens were lovely!
 
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