Hi all, We were coming back from our holiday towing our caravan and we were pulling off the motorway and suddenly a nissan navara towing a caravan came whizzing across the white lines causing me to brake hard.
Caravan's that cut across the white lines near the exit of the motorway!
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- Nov 11, 2009
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cannot see how the rear view mirrors come into it ,normally one is only forced to brake because what happens in front of you,not behind.
indeed i was forced to slow down today coming up the M5 in the outside lane just above Bristol, 58 plate range rover towing a coachman! could not wait the few extra seconds as one lorry passed another,and i do mean possibly having to wait 10 more seconds!!!
But at least he kindly acceleratered upto 70 plus mph, so as not to hold up anyone,which was kinda nice really.although really no need
boy those range rovers must be sturdy cars,shame the rear view mirrors cannot be too good,didnt see me,nor did he see his caravan wagging its tail briskly.....
indeed i was forced to slow down today coming up the M5 in the outside lane just above Bristol, 58 plate range rover towing a coachman! could not wait the few extra seconds as one lorry passed another,and i do mean possibly having to wait 10 more seconds!!!
But at least he kindly acceleratered upto 70 plus mph, so as not to hold up anyone,which was kinda nice really.although really no need
boy those range rovers must be sturdy cars,shame the rear view mirrors cannot be too good,didnt see me,nor did he see his caravan wagging its tail briskly.....
- Nov 11, 2009
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Surely you should be aware of what's behind so you can react accordingly. For example if high speed coach is coming from behind then you can move the outfit slightly to the left and reduce the pressure wave. Similarly passing a entry slip road on an m way mirrors allow you spot those who hammer down thinking they have right of way. I suppose it's what I would call spatial awareness.
nope totally lost here,I am asumming the outfit came across in front of him,am i to assume the other outfit was using the hard shoulder and actually undertook on the hardshoulder?..Otherwise again can not understand where the rearview mirrors bit comes into it.
- Nov 11, 2009
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Overtake or undertake rear view mirrors let's you see what's coming. Assuming you use them that is
theres a time and a place for everything, from what i can make out of the original posting,and excuse me if i have mis understood, the vehicle moved over in FRONT of him cutting him up so to speak.Now if that is the case clive then the "rear view mirror" statement serves no purpose. Add to this the poster was leaving the motorway and therefore changing direction he can only do a glance of the mirrors[are you assuming something has to happen at the exact time one glances in the mirrors!] and then "watching"in front and where he is going takes priorty!
- Mar 14, 2005
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The OP is basically commenting (or complaining) about the poor driving of the offending Navarna outfit.
Sadly it is an indication of deteriorating driving skills and consideration that an increasing number of drivers are showing.
I was travelling on the M6/M5/M50 over the bank holiday weekend and watched numerous instances of drivers changing lanes without signals, cutting in front of me and other vehicles with less than a comfortable distance between us and tailgating, and of course speeding, both solo and with trailers in tow.
Unfortunately it seems that some drivers seem to feel they have the right to cut up other motorists, ignoring the highway code, common decency and manners. such actions endangers other drivers and themselves.
The best defence against such inconsideration is to more vigilant, and to prepare for a greater number of possible hazardous actions from other road users.
Sadly it is an indication of deteriorating driving skills and consideration that an increasing number of drivers are showing.
I was travelling on the M6/M5/M50 over the bank holiday weekend and watched numerous instances of drivers changing lanes without signals, cutting in front of me and other vehicles with less than a comfortable distance between us and tailgating, and of course speeding, both solo and with trailers in tow.
Unfortunately it seems that some drivers seem to feel they have the right to cut up other motorists, ignoring the highway code, common decency and manners. such actions endangers other drivers and themselves.
The best defence against such inconsideration is to more vigilant, and to prepare for a greater number of possible hazardous actions from other road users.
Parksy
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- Nov 12, 2009
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Before this thread develops into an off topic argument about the use of rear view mirrors let's remember that a safe and competent driver maintains good all round observation when driving along any road, be it a busy motorway or a single carriageway B road.
The OP states that a vehicle towing a caravan cut in front of him to exit the cariageway causing him to brake sharply, in which case I'm sure that the OP would have no doubt used his rear view mirror when braking sharply in case there was 44 tonnes of articulated vehicle right behind him.
As I'm sure that most of us will recognise, if we expect the worst from other drivers we are seldom surprised because there are some lunatics who shouldn't be allowed to drive a nail through a plank of wood out there so it's best to watch out for them at all times.
Defensive driving involves good all round observation and anticipation of the actions of other road users.
The OP states that a vehicle towing a caravan cut in front of him to exit the cariageway causing him to brake sharply, in which case I'm sure that the OP would have no doubt used his rear view mirror when braking sharply in case there was 44 tonnes of articulated vehicle right behind him.
As I'm sure that most of us will recognise, if we expect the worst from other drivers we are seldom surprised because there are some lunatics who shouldn't be allowed to drive a nail through a plank of wood out there so it's best to watch out for them at all times.
Defensive driving involves good all round observation and anticipation of the actions of other road users.
- Jul 15, 2008
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Hello Abbey Owner and welcome to the forum....... braking hard with a caravan in tow can be an interesting experience!
It seems to have prompted you to join us to voice your disapproval of this particular Nissan driver.
Lucky you were not being followed closely by a driver with similar skills
..... as is often the case when leaving a motorway
It seems to have prompted you to join us to voice your disapproval of this particular Nissan driver.
Lucky you were not being followed closely by a driver with similar skills
..... as is often the case when leaving a motorway
Now look here you chaps, this is unforgiveable. You should not use an apostrophy after a plural of a noun.
It was an interesting experience,I had a alko stabiliser 3004 and Alko atc. Hopefully it won't happen again
hi AbbeyOwner,AbbeyOwner said:
I wouldn't bet next months wages on it, I think Parksy and the Prof just about nailed it there are a lot of dorks out there and every day more are added to them, the highway code is obsolete and manners don't exist. the only way to stay safe is defensive driving, expect the unexpected and assume everyone else is an idiot and going to do something stupid.
THEN on the odd occasion we do something daft "and we all do from time to time". we might just get away with it.
colin
- Mar 14, 2005
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Sir Chunky,
My leige I fear your last missive has shattered my belief in the sanity and sence of the good people of Woosie. Did I understand what you meant to write "THEN on the odd occasion we do something daft "and we all do from time to time"."!!!!
Shock and horror I thought Wossies could do no wrong,- well in their eyes anyway.
Long Live Woosie and all other platitudes.
PS If I ever visit Woosieland, which side of the road do you drive?, And is it true you need to dilute the water from the tap and what do you use?
My leige I fear your last missive has shattered my belief in the sanity and sence of the good people of Woosie. Did I understand what you meant to write "THEN on the odd occasion we do something daft "and we all do from time to time"."!!!!
Shock and horror I thought Wossies could do no wrong,- well in their eyes anyway.
Long Live Woosie and all other platitudes.
PS If I ever visit Woosieland, which side of the road do you drive?, And is it true you need to dilute the water from the tap and what do you use?
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Prof John L said:Sir Chunky,
My leige I fear your last missive has shattered my belief in the sanity and sence of the good people of Woosie. Did I understand what you meant to write "THEN on the odd occasion we do something daft "and we all do from time to time"."!!!!
Shock and horror I thought Wossies could do no wrong,- well in their eyes anyway.
Long Live Woosie and all other platitudes.
PS If I ever visit Woosieland, which side of the road do you drive?, And is it true you need to dilute the water from the tap and what do you use?
This one goes for the white line straight down the middle of the outfit, that way I've got two lanes to manouvre in rather than one, after all the LR needs time to react whether it's left or right hand down a bit!!! And yes my navigation skills are the same as Leslie's!! On a more serious note two total twerps pulled out of junctions right across our bows on the way home from Honeymoon yesterday!! GRRRRRRRRRR!!!!!!!!!!
My sincere apologies, Parksy. Thought I'd try and add a bit of much needed humour to life. Never mind.
Prof John, stand by for a rollocking.
Prof John, stand by for a rollocking.
- Jun 20, 2005
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Getting "cut up" seems to be more common than ever.
Three real pet hates are :-
the to$$ers who overtake me ,pull in sharp causing me to brake, and then they brake so they can turn off to the left
the to$$ers who overtake me , pull back in and then reduce their speed to 50 mph or less making me have to overtake them.
the to$$ers who are joining the motorway . Rather than let me pass unimpeded feel they have a natural right to undertake me , pull out causing me to brake.
A little patience from all these idiots would make life so easier.
Three real pet hates are :-
the to$$ers who overtake me ,pull in sharp causing me to brake, and then they brake so they can turn off to the left
the to$$ers who overtake me , pull back in and then reduce their speed to 50 mph or less making me have to overtake them.
the to$$ers who are joining the motorway . Rather than let me pass unimpeded feel they have a natural right to undertake me , pull out causing me to brake.
A little patience from all these idiots would make life so easier.
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