CATS

[Chris_374413356]

I'm desperate for a solution to this problem.

Once more I woke early this morning and found yet another dead bird in my garden, not to mention more broken down plants and the flower beds used as a cat toilet.

I'm convinced the owners of these animals are never bothered with them because everyone else is.

I can imagine their owners fussing their little balls of fluff every morning not giving a damn what misery has been caused to their neighbours during the night. Of course if it was a dog then you would have some recourse through the courts as the owners have a responsibility.

 

[Powderblue]

I'm not a cat lover at all, but those who are, don't seem to care that their 'beloved' cats are being a total nuisance to other people by doing their business, scratting up all the soil everywhere, trampling down flower beds, catching birds - (which, by the way, are not eaten to survive, but are just mauled and left to die in agony) - in everyone else's garden but their own! They have their own little 'flap' to come and go as they please to annoy everyone else at the other side of the fence! However, dogs are not allowed to roam over other people's property, and every time they go out, by law, must be on a lead, and the responsible owners must clean up after their 'deposits' and dispose of it properly. What about cat owners taking more responsibilty for their cats? If I picked up the cat's poo from our garden and threw it back over the fence, there would be an outcry, and the owner wouldn't be able to understand why I'd done it! Come on cat owners, please think about what a nuisance your cat is being to others and do something about it!!!

 

[Auvergne]

Don't get me started......

Our neighbours sh*t machine yowls at 3.00am, 4.00am continuously beneath our adjoining bedroom windows to be let in. This has been going on for 18 months and we have written various concilliatory letters to them to no avail. If we knock on the door we are told "If you don't like it, move!" We were even down the police station the other Sunday morning at 5.30am pleading for something to be done. Allegedly "cats don't belong to anyone, unlike dogs" so it suggests its OK if I put a spade over its head???

Environmental Health don't want to know, our local Neighbourhood Policing Team cannot invoke any legislation but are willing to negotiate at a meeting between us and our neighbours - still waiting for them to agree to that one...

The Anti Social Behaviour Team are now involved. We have taken legal advice and are able to subpoena our neighbours to magistrates court under Section 82 of the Environmental Health Act apparently.

And the biggest laugh of all I'll save till last...... We banged on our neighbours' bedroom wall when we were woken up by their cat again last Sunday and they reported us to the police!!!!!!!!!

This is not a little ball of fluff, its a fleabitten mangey cat that is left out at all times. It may just be going on a mystery tour in the not too distant future.

 

[Auvergne]

Oh, and I forgot to say, we put carpet gripper rod around our garden beds, works a treat. Once its weathered in and plants grow around it you'd never know its there, thats of course unless you sprang over the fence to use your neighbour's garden as a toilet.

 

[grandadbaza]

There is one solution ,it is possible to buy a metal cage trap ,that does no harm to the cat (apart from the stress of being locked in ),then you put cage in boot of car and drive far enough away and release it , job done !!!! I dont condone harming animals , but could gladly castrate some of the owners .I did say some ,most owners take care of there animals

Baza

 

[Gumbo]

Val

You could always let the cat in at 3 am, it's obvious your neigbours don't care for it's welfare !!! Just think how many birds would be doing the Dawn Chorus without cats keeping the numbers down. You can't really compare a small dropping from a cat to that which a Large Dog can drop. At least a cat tries to cover it up and dosen't put it where children play.

Gumbo Cat's Defence League

 

[Chris_374413356]

Hi Valerie

I recently put carpet gripper on the top of some of my fencing.

The cat triggered the cctv and there it was walking along the top of the fence, If I hadn't seen it I would not have believed it, so back to plan B..... shotgun, they probably wear body armour!!

 

[Bob_374454550]

Here you go!

http://www.pyramydair.com/cgi-bin/model.pl?model_id=869

 

[Powderblue]

Mmmmm! Looks interesting Bob - could be tempted!!!! Stop giving me ideas!!!

 

[Chris_374413356]

I was thinking on the lines of an Uzi

 

[Chris_374413356]

I was thinking more of an Uzi

 

[GregClaire]

Tell me grandadbaza. How would you like it if I was to trap you in a cage and take you away from your home and loved ones, then abandon you in a strange place to fend for yourself whilst your family dont know where you have gone, not knowing whether to sit down and grieve or pace around the neighbourhood calling your name?

Im quite happy to lend my services if you would like to find out!

Yes I agree that some cat owners shouldnt be left in charge of themselves let alone an animal, but making stupid comments that someone might think is a good idea just isnt clever.

For those of you that dont like cats in you garden then the simple electronic sound emitters that have been around since gods dog was a pup work brilliantly as my birdwatching and slightly obsessed birdfedding father will tell you.

And if you dont want to buy one of the emitters then chicken poo compost pellets on you garden will keep them well away.

 

[ajmacintosh]

Quote Greg & Claire "For those of you that dont like cats in you garden then the simple electronic sound emitters that have been around since gods dog was a pup work brilliantly as my birdwatching and slightly obsessed birdfedding father will tell you.

And if you dont want to buy one of the emitters then chicken poo compost pellets on you garden will keep them well away."

Nah, that seems like a whole lotta bother.....Just shoot em lol hahaha

 

[ShadySadie]

Having seen posts removed here for reasons such as being a family site viewed by children and new prospective caravanners what is going on here?

Advice on harming and shooting pets or taking them from their home and dropping them of to roam is sickening.

Cats should have a cat flap and access to dry warm shelter and food and water at all times. Get the RSPCA on the case if a cat can't get access to its own home.

If anybody can explain in a rational polite well meaning manner how a cats owner controls a cats behaviour as they lead their own life when they wander I would be interested.

Barking dogs that can be heard for miles and poop every where and throw themselves at car windows as you pass are a bigger menace. As a pet owner my cats stay at home. Their particular foibles and antics are confined to our garden as it's large enough for them not to wander and they have large bells on their collars that scare the birds away. No one on a caravan site has to suffer their antics as we do with others dogs.

Dogs on leads and tethered do not escape caravans, a snarling barking Terrier or Lab and "don't worry he's just being protective he'd never hurt you" is not what I want as I wander past pitches and jumped as some mutt goes like a banshee at me.

Owners are the problem not the poor cats.

For Val, have you tried a water sprinkler, cat's don't like getting wet and they poop where it is dry. My cats don't flaten plants or dig up our flower and plant beds, I can't say that I've ever known cats do that. Our cats are country cats, not town cats though.

 

[extrucker1]

Having seen posts removed here for reasons such as being a family site viewed by children and new prospective caravanners what is going on here?

Advice on harming and shooting pets or taking them from their home and dropping them of to roam is sickening.

Cats should have a cat flap and access to dry warm shelter and food and water at all times. Get the RSPCA on the case if a cat can't get access to its own home.

If anybody can explain in a rational polite well meaning manner how a cats owner controls a cats behaviour as they lead their own life when they wander I would be interested.

Barking dogs that can be heard for miles and poop every where and throw themselves at car windows as you pass are a bigger menace. As a pet owner my cats stay at home. Their particular foibles and antics are confined to our garden as it's large enough for them not to wander and they have large bells on their collars that scare the birds away. No one on a caravan site has to suffer their antics as we do with others dogs.

Dogs on leads and tethered do not escape caravans, a snarling barking Terrier or Lab and "don't worry he's just being protective he'd never hurt you" is not what I want as I wander past pitches and jumped as some mutt goes like a banshee at me.

Owners are the problem not the poor cats.

For Val, have you tried a water sprinkler, cat's don't like getting wet and they poop where it is dry. My cats don't flaten plants or dig up our flower and plant beds, I can't say that I've ever known cats do that. Our cats are country cats, not town cats though.

hi all, after reading these posts, ive had a good talk to our cat. ive told him what he must and mustnot do. i think he understood me. raymond h.

 

[Chris_374413356]

Hi Shady Sadie

This is where my topic started. YOU will not be bothered by your cats,,,,,,,,,,,,,, BECAUSE everyone else is!!!!

I rest my case.

 

[Gumbo]

Once more I woke early this morning and found yet another dead bird in my garden

That's how this thread started, well that's what cats do they kill birds !! Now us people kill cows,lambs etc. Our cat kills mice and she eats them so what's the difference.??

 

[seth1]

Best thing to do here Chris is get a dog,get yourself an SBT,they absolutly love people but hate cats.Ive not seen a cat in our back garden for over 7 years.And for all the cat lovers he,s never chewed a cat ever.

 

[ShadySadie]

Chris my cats are Spayed and Neutered so they do not go far or even leave our gardens.

As my nearest neighbours are far away across the fields to either side of our house please explain how my cats are a bother to anyone else.

 

[ShadySadie]

Best thing to do here Chris is get a dog,get yourself an SBT,they absolutly love people but hate cats.Ive not seen a cat in our back garden for over 7 years.And for all the cat lovers he,s never chewed a cat ever.

We have signs for visitors that warn not to let their dogs out in our Garden. A Kerry Blue had a very large vet bills as it escaped from a vistors car and tried to attack two of my cats who ripped its face to pieces and a delivery mans German Sheppard got the same treatment.

My late mothers had cats that were also as feisty, one followed her like a dog, dogs large and small always came off worse if they fancied their chances.

 

[MartinJ]

I totally agree with Sadie. How on earth can posts that condone the capturing and shooting of cats be ok on this forum.

People who think that kind of post is funny or amusing ought to be ashamed of themselves.

 

[Cate_374453296]

Blame the owners not the cats. Cats do what come naturally to them they do not think of the result of their actions being an annoyed neighbour etc. Second the dog that doesn't like cats idea though. I have a German shepherd who doesn't like anything bigger than a pigeon and goes bananas when she see them in the garden, so now we have lots of birds but no cats.She does know however that she is not allowed to chase cats and she does get a row but she doesn't care.

Please though don't hurt an animal, deal with the owners. Cats are nice but very independent and will do their own thing. We have a squirell that holds onto the wall (first floor) outside our bedroom window and screams, sometimes for an hour and he wont move. But hey thats nature and I would rather that than all concrete and buildings

 

[cara89]

Yes, sounds like some of the humans on here should be in more trouble than the cats for aggressive behaviour and breach of the peace! `Banging on someones walls` is just as intrusive. I dont believe a person can be that tired if they are kept awake by a cat (or as Ive said on another topic- a lawnmower!) Different if its a threatening noise like someone swearing outside your window

 

[LMH]

Well, I only have one cat now, we always used to have three along with dogs.

I'm surprised this thread is still continuing. There's no excuse for animal cruelty (bar a kill on vermin).

I have two terriers and although they let me down badly on capturing/exterminating a rat which kept visiting the garden (rats are vermin by the way), we don't get other people's cats in our garden because the dogs will chase them.

However, I don't know what the solution is either, cats can be problematic to gardeners and to families. Spraying them with water from the hosepipe sometimes works, but if the cat is visiting during the night, then I doubt people will sit up all night watching out for the cat with the hosepipe in their hand.

Lion droppings, gel from the pet shop, they don't seem to work from what people tell me. I do believe that cat owners should put a collar with a bell on their cat though.

I just don't like some of the replies on here to be honest.

Lisa

 

[Phillipcharnwoodforest]

Well this is an interesting topic, views seem to vary a lot too, we all have an opinion and so we should have. Look at it from the other persons view tho' I'll give mine . I live out in the countryside a few houses but not an urban area, no then next door to me they have an adult cat that they don't care about, and a young kitten that they do and seem to look after well, but the adult, I've never seen such a mangey looink animal in all my life no looked after at all. This cat is just one of 3 that they used to have a big old tom cat that they had for a good many years and another Persian? i think that was allways kept inside but escaped and was never seen again, but all of that is a different story.

If I wash the cars and then the caravan, is it aceptable that the cat goes on them and leaves muddy paw prints over them? I say not, why should I accept it?

If when I have planted my garden with the bedding plants that I have either grown or bought and along comes the cat and digs them up by using my garden as a toilet is that also acceptable?

The same goes for the vegetables that I grow, and what about when the cat comes in to my house, do I have to keep the door shut to stop it getting in and going upstairs as it has done on occasion?

And what about the fish in my pond, some of them have cost me a lot of money and the cat has at times tried to take them? do I just sit back and let it happen or do I take action to protect my property? and if I do take action what do I take?

The ultra sonic devices cost money so why should I have to pay for one or more to deter the cats and not the owners? A farmer by law has to keep his animals in not me keep them out.

I don't like the idea of shooting, trapping or any other method of control so where does that leave me?

Now look at the other side, little kitty comes in to my house through the cat flap and eats and drinks, then goes outside to empty itself on someone else's garden so I don't have to clean up after it. It digs up someone else's plants so I don't have to spend time and money to put it right. It goes into someone else's home who does like cats or maybe has an allergy to them and leaves fur and dust from its skin and I won't have to go round to their home to clean up after it.

And after all of that if I go away on holiday for a few days I just have to put the cat out and it will turn feral for a day or 2 and will look after itself for the duration. Don't believe me about that last statement? kick your cat out and see, we have a few feral cats round here where I live, some escape'se and some just dumped.

Or do I do what a country born guy MAY feel like doing, I have shotguns and gun dogs, let the dogs chase the cats off? or do the more sinister thing?

Makes one wonder does it not?