During the latter part of my 50 or so years of driving,practically all of the cars that I have driven have been fitted with these. In the earlier days they were known as 'spot lights', and at that time were generally an extra. I have long doubted their usefulness, and sometimes I have turned them on very briefly to see if they had any benefit. If there was any advantage in using them, it was lost on me, and I find that the standard lights are ample for my requirements when I am behind them, and, if anything, too bright when I am facing them! Why then, is there a new breed of driver, that considers it neccesary to put on his (or her) foglights as soon as dusk falls? Apart from flouting the law, ( I think,)they are just causing inconvenience to other road users. As a grumpy old sod, I suspect that the offender's are somewhat younger than me, and they are under the misguided impression that everyone is immpressed by the fact that they have two extra lights. Same mentality as those who buy the chrome bit for the end of the exhaust I suppose....
Front Fog Lights
- Thread starter Rodone
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Yes Rod, you're quite right. Waste of time. Waste of energy. Waste of space. Because I'm a grumpy old sod too, I always flash the offending "four light brigade" flash gits.
Driving lights serve no purpose unless they're used in fog - and their value even then is questionable and certainly require headlights to be off.
But don't you think that far worse than this are those who have lights nicely misaligned headlights to shine right in your eyes, either facing you or behind. Or with one light out altogether...
Yep, I flash 'em - matter of principle...!
Driving lights serve no purpose unless they're used in fog - and their value even then is questionable and certainly require headlights to be off.
But don't you think that far worse than this are those who have lights nicely misaligned headlights to shine right in your eyes, either facing you or behind. Or with one light out altogether...
Yep, I flash 'em - matter of principle...!
Good man Colin! You keep flashing!!! Trouble is, the moron's that you are trying to signal will have no idea what you are on about - their brain's are addled by subjection to sub - woofer's! While I am having a go at them, there are also the other lot who will drive in fog with no light's. Prat's on an equal footing!!
Agree with both. Plus those plonkers who drive with rear fog lights on in normal conditions.All fog lights(front and rear) should , when switched on, activate a large spike which sticks up your bum, and stays there until you switch them off again!!!
I presume you mean fog lights which are set into the front bumper, near the road? The law states that these should only be used in adverse conditions which limit visibility to 100m. Actually the law states that these lights may be used "during heavy rain, thick fog, falling snow, or any other time when visibility is reduced to less than 100m. Some may argue that darkness meets this criteria.
However. If your fog lights are mounted 500mm or more from the road surface (mine are) you can use them any time dipped beam is permissible as they become auxiliary driving lights. So its possible some of the people who are rousing you may be within the law.
Personally I think the low set fog lights are pointless, but the higher set ones on my car make a huge difference to peripheral visibility.
However. If your fog lights are mounted 500mm or more from the road surface (mine are) you can use them any time dipped beam is permissible as they become auxiliary driving lights. So its possible some of the people who are rousing you may be within the law.
Personally I think the low set fog lights are pointless, but the higher set ones on my car make a huge difference to peripheral visibility.
I have a 4x4 with 80/100 w bulbs fitted. The spots have 100w bulbs.
People soon get the message if they blind me.
G.
People soon get the message if they blind me.
G.
People with badly adjusted headlamps annoy me just as much, especially when they are the xenon type.
xenon lights should always have self adjustment ,so out of the control of the driver. Would need a trip to the dealer if they are wrong.
I agree with a lot of what has been said however if they are correctly adjusted they are very useful in fog and falling snow in both cases they go under the fog and do not glare back of the fog or in the case of falling snow you do not get that very off putting snow coming down the headlight beam.
Rod One
I fully agree with you about the "boy racer" attitude with the un-necessary use of fog lamps. BUT what is your problem with chrome trimmed exhaust tail pipes????????
Firsty. Mine does make the car look nicer than it did when it merely had a blackenned tube poking from beneath the bumper.
Secondly. I do not like the mess that covers the front of my caravan that is caused by deisel smoke, especially in damp conditions.
So carry on with your Grumpy old man comments (Ageist and sexist comment I know) about being dazzled by fog lamps but unless your headlamps are reflected by my shinney chrome exhaust, I suggest you refrain from generalising.
Brum.
I fully agree with you about the "boy racer" attitude with the un-necessary use of fog lamps. BUT what is your problem with chrome trimmed exhaust tail pipes????????
Firsty. Mine does make the car look nicer than it did when it merely had a blackenned tube poking from beneath the bumper.
Secondly. I do not like the mess that covers the front of my caravan that is caused by deisel smoke, especially in damp conditions.
So carry on with your Grumpy old man comments (Ageist and sexist comment I know) about being dazzled by fog lamps but unless your headlamps are reflected by my shinney chrome exhaust, I suggest you refrain from generalising.
Brum.
Graham SBNR, people you flash may well get the message but unfortunately you are breaking the law as much as they are, 80/100 and 100w bulbs are restricted to off road use only and are not legal on the road!
Hello Brum,
Not sure that I have a real problem with shiney tail pipes as I can seldom see them properly through my heavily tinted windows!!
Not sure that I have a real problem with shiney tail pipes as I can seldom see them properly through my heavily tinted windows!!
I can vouch for the fact if you use your front fog lights you WILL be fined by the police if stopped.
4 years ago I got stopped by the police (spot checks) and was fined
4 years ago I got stopped by the police (spot checks) and was fined
Hi all,i don't really want to start a discussion about young drivers but have you forgotten that everybody was young once and we never did any blinging on our cars and always abided by the law with our cars be it with having fog lights on at wrong time or having no lights on at all (you see as many elderley drivers with no lights on)as youngsters with fog lights on, i have a 21 year old son who is a responsible driver so lets not get into haveing a go at youngsters more mature drivers can be just has bad.
Hi Sean,
Not in the least concerned with how much clutter they put on their cars - just get them to switch the fogs lamps off!!
Not in the least concerned with how much clutter they put on their cars - just get them to switch the fogs lamps off!!
Depending on the positioning and brightness of the lamps they can be very useful.Driving along a country road with no lighting or kerb line is obviously a safety issue.The lamps on my car illuminate the edge of the carriageway just enough to enable me to stay on the black stuff !!
Do the police stop the HGV's with all of their lights on their cabs - all shades of blue and white ?
Do the police stop the HGV's with all of their lights on their cabs - all shades of blue and white ?
Hello Jonathan,
I doubt the police will bother to stop the over lit lorry driver's when a good percentage of cars are running about with only one headlight working, or number plate lights out of order. If the police do ever have a purge on faulty/ missused car lights, they will have a field day. (Or field night)
I doubt the police will bother to stop the over lit lorry driver's when a good percentage of cars are running about with only one headlight working, or number plate lights out of order. If the police do ever have a purge on faulty/ missused car lights, they will have a field day. (Or field night)
Hi Alan W.
With ref. to my bulbs
The headlights are correctley adjusted & cause less dazzle when dipped on 80w than xenon type lights.
The 100w on main beam & spot lights are only used when any body else would use main beam ie. when the road is clear or off road.
Oh & if any body blinds me.
G.
With ref. to my bulbs
The headlights are correctley adjusted & cause less dazzle when dipped on 80w than xenon type lights.
The 100w on main beam & spot lights are only used when any body else would use main beam ie. when the road is clear or off road.
Oh & if any body blinds me.
G.
They'ye still illegal! Read the box they come in, or if you've not got it look at one next time you in Halfords.
Illegal or not, any driver who blinds a another driver coming towards him at high speed might come a serious cropper himself...!!!
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