Hyundai Santa Fe 2015

[Alanbrooke]

I posted a topic about using a Mazda CX5 to tow my 1700kg Buccaneer Argosy. I recently bought a 2015 Hyundai Santa Fe after taking the advice I received. Thanks to all who replied to the topic.
I bought a used Santa Fe 2.2Crdi 200PS auto from a Main Dealer - one year old and 8500 miles, the latest version. A lovely car to drive.
Question: service is due at 20,000 miles or 2 years. Do Santa Fe owners recommend the intermediate service at 12,500 miles/1 year and would they recommend an oil change at 12,500 miles? I shall tow about 5000 miles next year. The dealer said not to bother. After driving VW powered cars for the last 11 years I am used to service at 12,500 miles.
Advice gratefully received.
Alan

 

[saint-spoon]

personally I would do it annually but I have always done that with my cars. Diesels last longer with regular oil changes and as you SF will have a timing chain rather than belt it will enjoy having fresh oil. I get mine done with the MOT each year but obviously you won't be worrying about that for a year or two. My SF is 2010 with 100k on the clock but I only do around 5-6000 a year but still get a full annual service.
if your service book says 20,000 or 2 years you can always get the garage to give you a stamp on the invoice to say that they did an interim service.

 

[Hutch]

Hi Alan, On my SF I averge around 15k miles a year, and do the interim service at the10k miles.2014 SF. But I paid for the 5 servicings up front. My dealer also said not to bother with the interim as the modern oil is ok for the 2 years 20k. I would rather change my oil at the 10 k mark.

 

[Raywood]

If the car is a year old then you might need to claim under the guarantee at some point. If the manufacturers require an interim service and it has not been done then they might reject a claim. You will need to decide if you want to take the risk.

 

[chrisbee1]

Times change and so does the quality of engines and oils. If the manufacturer states 20000 miles or 2 years why on earth would you not believe them and pay for extra oil? Next someone will recommend doing a 'decoke' every 6000 miles like they did on their Morris Minor.

 

[Hutch]

Chrisbe, I agree with you about the oils being improved , but there is the clause, that states if you are towing a trailer you may need to increase the servicing due to the increased loads on the engine and transaxle, so on page 5/94 of my Hyundai SF manual it states just that. I do the interim servicing so that if I do have a problem and have to do a warranty claim I am covered.

 

[MichaelE]

If I had 2 year intervals I would do an oil change every year.
No harm in putting fresh oil in every year.
I had castrol long life oil in my audi and the castrol rep told me to drain in out and put Mobil 1 in and stick to yearly intervals

 

[chrisbee1]

If I had 2 year intervals I would do an oil change every year.
No harm in putting fresh oil in every year.
I had castrol long life oil in my audi and the castrol rep told me to drain in out and put Mobil 1 in and stick to yearly intervals

I totally agree, it won't do any harm but it won't do much good either. Are you suggesting oil only lasts a year?

 

[Martin24]

My D-max is 2 years or 12k. We do about 5k p/a so we will be taking it for it's second service next year at 4 years old. This year was MOT only, no service.

 

[MichaelE]

Oil lasts as long as you want it too
As soon as it starts to be used it's degrading
You never see premeture wear until it's too late.
BMW,'s tell you when it's due a change mine was 6 months earlier than a co worker .he did more miles than me but I tow with mine.
You pay your money and makes your choice.

 

[Hutch]

As MichaelE says takes your money, etc, I have found that I get better MPG if I use a Branded, for Diesel at least, , ie Shell Bp Esso, fuel rather than Tesco, Sainsburys, Morrisons fuels, maybe due to the addittives the Branded companies put in, still a little bit loath to use the "Super" as yet, anyone else noticed this. ?

 

[Raywood]

Oddly enough I have regularly towed down to White Water Park to visit relatives and Tesco fuel has given me the best return from a mixed bunch.

 

[ProfJohnL]

It may be a self fulfilling expectation, but I do suspect that my diesel Passat does run smoother when using Shell Vpower compared to Tesco. I need to think of some objective way to measure a it.

But as for MPG, that's really difficult as even driving the same route many times, each journey presents different conditions, and the measured differences in fuel consumption will be affected by traffic conditions weather to the condition differences more than the grade of fuel in the tank. Even with the exceptional skills of a motor sport driver who can produce near identical lap time after time, the fuel consumption will vary from lap to lap if for no other reason than the fuel load reduces, which requires less fuel to do the same thing.

Longer brim to brim over many tank fulls would hopefully give a more reliable result, but even these results will be affected by longer cycle issues such as seasonal conditions.

Basically trying to compare real life MPGs down to a tenth of a mile is frankly pointless. Leave that degree of precision to the lab.

 

[Raywood]

I do agree with the Proff's position although if like me you tow the caravan on the same route several times it is interesting to see if you can see any difference between fuels. I accept though that even if I drive exactly the same route with the same car and caravan there are too many variables, particularly traffic and weather to be firm an the answer.

 

[Martin24]

I put whatever she fills it with in the tank and have no idea what the mpg is after 3 years. All I do know is some places we get to on less than a tank full and some places we have to fill up on route. Some months we don't fill up at all.

 

[Alanbrooke]

Many thanks for that. Just been away for a week so haven't looked at the forum. I eventually found the 'weasel words' in the Service Record Book, Maintenance and Service Information, Owner Maintenance. It says that for vehicles subjected to certain conditions, one of which is:
" More than 33% driving with a trailer at 80% or more of the maximum recommended trailer weight" should have the engine oil and filter changed every 10,000 miles.
So it's quite clear to me - I would fall into that category.
I've got the car booked in for a VHC at my local Hyundai dealer on Friday. I'll probably have the oil changed before we go to Spain in January, but not the filter as the car hasn't towed yet.

 

[Hutch]

Alan, yes their little words as you say could catch you out. We came back from a hot summer of towing at 35C plus 2600 miles and were ready for an oil change thankfully the SF has a 600 miles either way of the 10 k interim. Have a good trip.
Have the filter changed, thats where all the crud get collectted and it doesnt cost much.
Hutch.

 

[Hutch]

Well what else can I say about the Santa Fe, Sat Nav is bad, Spare wheel can be stolen easily unless you chain it. but a Good tow car, a freind of mine has a year old one 9000 Miles, its broken down 5 times due to none starting,

And what have Hyundai done,

Replaced it with a Brand New One. Now that isnt that a great result.

 

[Alanbrooke]

Well, well! Just had a free VHC on mine and the Hyundai dealer washed the car as well! Nice, considering the VHC was free.
Agree about the satnav - we'll see how it performs on the Continent. Regards the spare, what's the best way to secure it? Had the same problem on a Citroen - stolen wheel, but easy to lock.
Alan

 

[Hutch]

Hyundai do a spcial locking plate about £140 , I put a heavy duty motorcycle chain around the Wheel and locked to the towbar £30. SAT nav worked ok in Europe, but you have to plan ahead with it, it will do some daft routes.

 

[merlin1]

I have one of these fitted on my 2008 Santa fe. They are ok if you have a cable operated mechanism for the spare wheel and certainly cheaper than the main Hyundai dealers:

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Hyundai-Santa-Fe-Spare-Wheel-Anti-Theft-Locking-Device-/112232444131?hash=item1a219330e3:g:AacAAOSwWF5XLZ3f

 

[merlin1]

For some reason the ebay link does not appear!!!! You will find the anti theft device on ebay under the title Hyundai Spare Wheel Protector - cost £50.