Importance of Noseweight

Apr 17, 2005
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Sorry for the length of this topic, but I wanted to describe the incident fully to give adequate background information.

I was following an outfit onto a dual carriageway with extremely light traffic on Friday and noticed the caravan was 'swinging' only very slightly from side to side. Speed was not more than 50mph. Once on the dual carriageway the road became slightly downhill and I overtook (solo), as did the car following, which also overtook me. On looking in my mirror when I was probably 200 yards ahead, I saw the caravan 'swinging' was now gradually increasing and over probably 30 seconds had become a significant snake, which was eventually recovered by the driver (just) after what seemed like a considerable duration of where the caravan was oscillating between the outside carriageway and the nearside verge. I do not believe the outfit exceeded 50mph, and it was probably lower, even on the dual carriageway.

Now, being of the helpful type, and having never seen this happen at such a low speed and with such little provocation before, I drove slowly in front and indicated to the driver to turn into the next layby, which he did.

The driver's initial reaction was "I got a bit of a wobble on there!" which I thought to be an understatement. I asked if he had checked the noseweight, and he seemed to not realise how important this was, and agreed I could unhitch to check it for him. Upon unhitching it was obvious the caravan was about balanced so the noseweight was virtually nil. He then said he had a 12V battery placed at the back of the van (the worst place) and proceeded to move this to the front.

On the face of it the car and van appeared to be a good match - smallish van / BMW 3 or 5 series saloon (but no stabiliser.)

I know the vast majority of people appreciate the importance of getting the noseweight right, but it did surprise me how easily this outfit snaked due mainly to insufficient noseweight. This in turn made me wonder if many of the overturned outfits one hears about may have had insufficient noseweight - after all it is difficult to check it after a caravan has been reduced to matchwood!

Enjoy your Hols,

Trevor M
 
Mar 6, 2007
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Hi Trevor

Being new to caravaning (only towed twice to date)going next week, i have read all the post on this site regarding noseweight and made sure mine is at 75kg everytime I tow with a audi a6 which has a noseweight limit on the towbar of 85kg could i load the van to this ? Is it better heavier than lighter which in the case you have pointed out is obviously very dangerous.
 
Mar 14, 2005
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It really is amazing how indifferent and unconcerned some people set off. And then there are the others who'd rather measure noseweight using calibrated laboratory scales every time before towing. Is it really that difficult to be just plain sensible about it?

Of course, a heavy noseweight is beneficial to achieve stability but whether anyone would really notice a difference between 75kg and 85kg (assuming all other conditions are the same) is doubtful. But well nigh zero noseweight is, of course, asking for trouble.

Mention was made of the outfit in question being particularly 'wobbly' going downhill. There again, why people don't ease off the accelerator when going downhill as soon as they sense the first indications of instability beats me.
 
Apr 17, 2005
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It really is amazing how indifferent and unconcerned some people set off. And then there are the others who'd rather measure noseweight using calibrated laboratory scales every time before towing. Is it really that difficult to be just plain sensible about it?

Of course, a heavy noseweight is beneficial to achieve stability but whether anyone would really notice a difference between 75kg and 85kg (assuming all other conditions are the same) is doubtful. But well nigh zero noseweight is, of course, asking for trouble.

Mention was made of the outfit in question being particularly 'wobbly' going downhill. There again, why people don't ease off the accelerator when going downhill as soon as they sense the first indications of instability beats me.
Hi Paul, I think Lutz has answered your question to some extent, in saying you may not notice much difference between 75Kg and 85Kg.

Since you have looked at the other topics, you will have discovered that the 'aim' should be to try to get Noseweight as high as possible, keeping within the towbar / caravan specifications. Ie. Noseweight = the lower of the towbar and caravan hitch load limits.

Enjoy your hols.

Trevor M
 
Jul 26, 2008
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Hi Paul, I think Lutz has answered your question to some extent, in saying you may not notice much difference between 75Kg and 85Kg.

Since you have looked at the other topics, you will have discovered that the 'aim' should be to try to get Noseweight as high as possible, keeping within the towbar / caravan specifications. Ie. Noseweight = the lower of the towbar and caravan hitch load limits.

Enjoy your hols.

Trevor M
I'm a novice, and I was planning to make the noseweight as high as the towing vehicle will take, which is 100kg for my VW Transporter.

But Trevor mentions the caravan's limit as well, which I don't know. Anyone know what that is likely to be for a 2006 Swift Charisma 540?
 
Apr 26, 2005
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Hi Transporter.

Regarding your comment on noseweight of your caravan:-

If it is only a 2006 model you will probably have a booklet from Alko about your caravan chassis with all sorts of info contained.

I would look in this booklet as it will probably have noseweight info inside.

I have a Lunar Clubman and the Alko booklet states a noseweight for me of 100kg.

Ron
 
Jul 3, 2008
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I would rather have the nose weight too high than too low.

I aim for 100kg (ish) as my tow cars max is 120kg.

Don't have any problem even at continental towing speed limits!
 

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