Kia Sorento Tyres

[Scorpy]

Hi GUys
I am about to replace the front tyres on my 2010 Kia Sorento and in the past have always fitted Michelin which I've been happy with but of late I have noticed a lot of owners singing the praises of the Avon Tyres.
Has anyone got any opinions of these-especially for towing?
I tow a Coachman Pastiche with 1650Kg gross weight and wondered if anyone has the same/similar outfit.
I have always been happy with Michelin but the Avons ZX7 would work out some £120 cheaper so it makes a big difference
Your thoughts?
Mike

 

[Hutch]

Hi Scorpy, I had a 2008 Sante Fe and fitted it with Avon M+S tyres which were the predesseors to the Avon ZX7, I was towing a Coachman 560/4 and the tyres were great, I done about 25k miles on them and grip in all conditions were fantastic.
I would have bought them when I changed my tyres on my present Sante Fe. But unfortunally Avon didnt do them in 235/60/18, So I went for Nokien Weatherproofs, only done 300 miles on them and they are breaking in nicely,

 

[otherclive]

Hi Scorpy, I had a 2008 Sante Fe and fitted it with Avon M+S tyres which were the predesseors to the Avon ZX7, I was towing a Coachman 560/4 and the tyres were great, I done about 25k miles on them and grip in all conditions were fantastic.
I would have bought them when I changed my tyres on my present Sante Fe. But unfortunally Avon didnt do them in 235/60/18, So I went for Nokien Weatherproofs, only done 300 miles on them and they are breaking in nicely,

No experience of those particular Avons, but I've had Avons on cars and found them to be okay. Regarding the Nokian Weatherproof they are regularly up in the top set on tyre tests. My son who has a FL2 has had them for over 12 months and he very pleased at their performance. He doesn't tow but his work requires him to go along farm tracks and grass areas. In tread design they aren't too dissimilar to some Yokohama and Falken all terrains that i had on my 2004 Sorento and Pajero. So they should be reasonable for extracting from CLs. They are Mountain Snoflake symbol so can be used in Europe where winter tyres are required. Their only weak point is that they constantly underp[erform on dry tarmac braking compared to all season class leaders which I guess is due to them being a winter tyre with modified compound and such an open tread pattern. Ive fitted two of our cars with Michelin Cross Climate + which again is Mountain Snoflake but a summer tyres modified for winter use in temperate areas such as UK/Low Countries, France etc. Their dry braking is almost on par with a good summer tyre. It used to be so easy some years back. Just turn up at the tyre depot and just ask for a couple of tyres to be fitted.

 

[Hutch]

The Nokien weatherproofs are "A" rated for wet braking as are the Avon ZX7, THE Cross-climates are a B rated for wet braking. So not much in it really. The Avons are not an all season tyre though. But as I said before my Avon ATT's were a very good tyre and would have bought them again.
My last tyres Hankòk, Ventus pime 115 were a good tyre 42k just replaced then they still had 4 mm tread but were getting slippy in the wet.

 

[otherclive]

The Nokien weatherproofs are "A" rated for wet braking as are the Avon ZX7, THE Cross-climates are a B rated for wet braking. So not much in it really. The Avons are not an all season tyre though. But as I said before my Avon ATT's were a very good tyre and would have bought them again.
My last tyres Hankòk, Ventus pime 115 were a good tyre 42k just replaced then they still had 4 mm tread but were getting slippy in the wet.

But I said "dry braking" and i don't use the EU icon results I tend to look at the controlled road test results from organisations like ADAC, Autobild and AMS the German organisations that do controlled comparative tests, not the EU laboratory based test.

 

[otherclive]

Here's a link to a wide range of tyre tests, which might be of interest and an aid to decision making.
http://www.tyrereviews.co.uk/Tyre-Tests/

 

[Hutch]

I prefer to think about "Wet" braking rather than dry, otherwise why would they specify.

 

[otherclive]

I prefer to think about "Wet" braking rather than dry, otherwise why would they specify.

But if you look at the real world comparitive tests the outcomes contradict the official laboratory tests. Somewhat like the real world fuel consumption rarely if ever meets the official EU test figures.

 

[Hutch]

I tried a "Dry braking check today on my car on a clear dual, carriageway, and found both from 70 mph and 40 mph I was more than happy with the braking. They arrested the car ewell enough to set off the hazard warning lights, So I would not hesitate to recomend the Nokien Weatherproofs to some one who was interested in buying them.
But back to Scorpys oiginal question.

 

[otherclive]

I tried a "Dry braking check today on my car on a clear dual, carriageway, and found both from 70 mph and 40 mph I was more than happy with the braking. They arrested the car ewell enough to set off the hazard warning lights, So I would not hesitate to recomend the Nokien Weatherproofs to some one who was interested in buying them.
But back to Scorpys oiginal question.

But how can that be a comparitive test. It’s just a subjective assessment. Perhaps another brand of tyre would have set off the hazard warning lights 2 or more metres earlier.

 

[Hutch]

Very possible. Scorpy , go for the Avons.

 

[Craigyoung]

We've got the Michelin M+S tyres on ours ( not marks & $pencers ) , on about 11ooo miles with them now , never had a problem in wet and grip decent enough when powering up to pull away ,

Craig

 

[otherclive]

We've got the Michelin M+S tyres on ours ( not marks & $pencers ) , on about 11ooo miles with them now , never had a problem in wet and grip decent enough when powering up to pull away ,

Craig

What are the type of Michelins fitted to yours as my Cross Climates have M&S as well as the Snowflake symbol? Cheers.

 

[Craigyoung]

Mmm , will have to check tonight as my wife has it at work now .

 

[Hutch]

Mmm , will have to check tonight as my wife has it at work now .

Just loòking at the Nokien tyres they have 4 differrent markings into the center of the tread, a depth mark for wear at 8, 6, and 4 mm and also a snowflake at 5mm to show your wear, what a sensible idea, do other tyres have these, not just the ridges. ?

 

[otherclive]

Mmm , will have to check tonight as my wife has it at work now .

Just loòking at the Nokien tyres they have 4 differrent markings into the center of the tread, a depth mark for wear at 8, 6, and 4 mm and also a snowflake at 5mm to show your wear, what a sensible idea, do other tyres have these, not just the ridges. ?[/quote

Yes Continental produce one in North America which showed Snow, Wet and Dry limits. Continental Extreme Contact DWS. Currently $111 in US for z rated!! Others do similar especially on winter tyres. One reason UK buyers of part worn winters get them with around 4mm tread as by then their snow and wet performance has dropped off.

 

[Craigyoung]

At michalin nearly £13o.oo per tyre im glad ours aint going to need replacing soon !!! I could buy 4 my little Citróén C1 for that price off 1 :lol: !!

Craig

 

[Craigyoung]

We've got the Michelin M+S tyres on ours ( not marks & $pencers ) , on about 11ooo miles with them now , never had a problem in wet and grip decent enough when powering up to pull away ,

Craig

What are the type of Michelins fitted to yours as my Cross Climates have M&S as well as the Snowflake symbol? Cheers.

Michelin lattitude tours HP , 99v with an x and an A rating ?!? No sn☆flake symbol ?

 

[otherclive]

Had them or their predecessors on an XC70. A good all purpose tyre too