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Oct 17, 2006
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Hi Brian, Don't envy me, do it. You only live once, life is to short,

We took a big change moving down here, but all worked out fine, no regrets, parents only want the best for us, sorry for going off the topic. You can sill use mobile phone, but remember ear piece when driving. P.s also you can take laptop with you so you can still be in touch with us all. Liz
 
Feb 8, 2007
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I have to say that as a kid I had and a truly idyllic up bringing traveling to exotic places 1st class on planes and boys and trains.

I've lead a simple life ever since in comparison to my youth.
I agree with the simple!
 
Dec 23, 2006
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Liz,

I have heard today that motorists using mobile phones are 3 times more likely to be involved in an accident.

Over one million motorists are on 9 penalty points so those caught using a mobile phone will end up being banned. Could this reduce the number of vehicles on the road enough to stop the government introducing road charging?

Just a thought!!!

Hamer.
 
Dec 16, 2003
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As much of a danger as it is.

There are as many other dangers such as sound from kids headrest DVD players, childrens sudden unruly behaviour and heated discussions between drivers and others. Along with difficulties of food, drink, music provision, smoking and others such as applying make up.

Once again we have a problem that is demonised after it been left for years to run with when there are others that are just as dangerous but not so visible.
 
Oct 17, 2006
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Hi cris, I feel nowadays drivers need to concentrate on the road rather than using mobile phones, there are more accidents caused with drivers using mobiles.

You don't see many girls putting on their make-up whilst driving, well a least not down here, we are what you call country bumpkins, slower pace plenty of time for make-up at home before travelling to work, no rushing.
 
Mar 14, 2005
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This thread rather illustrates a point I have made on several occasions, There are no such things as accidents, they are incidents, because they are always the result of someone underestimating the effect of an activity, or someone failing to complete an activity, whether by choice or oversight.

The use of a mobile or any other activity that detracts from the drivers ability to be fully aware and in control of the vehicle, invariable ends up with some unfortunate or serious incident. They are not accidents and that is why the police refer to them as incidents.
 
Mar 14, 2005
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I do not understand why a mobile phone MUST be used whilst driving, No job is that important that the call cannot wait and thereby putting, not only the life of the user but other lives at risk. There have been recent instances in the press regarding a girl being killed by a lorry whilst the driver was using his phone and could not stop in time. If the employee is dismissed for losing a contract for not answering the phone whilst driving this is unfair dismissal and can be compensated in a court of law. The employer is effectively telling his employee to break the law, therefore the employer is aiding and abetting a criminal offence.

Another distraction is the use of sat-nav equipment where the screen is placed on the dashboard. Surely it is an offence to have a disply screen in front of a driver thereby distracting his attention. This screen is only a form of tv monitor and it is definately an offence to have a tv in full view to the drive.

Lets get back to the days where priorities are given in the correct order and that lives are not put at danger at the expence of trying to carry out a business deal. A good business man would talk golf in the office and business on the golf course.
 
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Did anybody listen to Jeremy Vine on Radio 2 yesterday? If so did you hear the numpty saying he drives his Volvo on the M6 at 100mph, mobile phone in hand. The justification seemed that he had been driving for 42 years and had never had an accident!!! When asked, would he be continuing this practice, the answer was, yes, if he was sure he wouldn't be caught!!

IDIOT!!!
 
Dec 16, 2003
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As before, we've been using mobiles for years on the road and it was plainly obvious many years ago when they were house sized that if you are going to use them you do it hands free if you must.

A friend of mine runs a Chauffeuring type of business and they courier business people and the odd celeb around, often these people hold in car meetings and talk projects and business strategies or talk on mobiles.

For the driver it is a huge distraction.

Closing the gate after the horse has bolted and very many people will call a mobile when they know people are on the road anyway.

Quite frankly people twitter on about the obvious dangers but only ABS and good driving saved our local postman as he cycled off the path in front of my wife last week oblivious to what was going on around him as he now does his round with Ipod glued to his ears.

My wife drove past a pedestrian crossing to a station on route to work where we lived before, pedestrian heading to work with mobile glued to their ears wandering in front of cars and other cyclist and pedestrians of all ages with Ipods glued in a musical trance that would have driver caned should they hit them a mile over the speed limit.

With mobile phones people picked the ball up and began running over 10 years ago and now some numptie has caught on that it can be a problem.

The lorry, van or car driver who weilds a phone in heavy traffic or a town centre with pedestrian all around is more than likely the same one hwo would be rolling a *** one handed and searching for the matches if they were not using the phone or twidling the stereo knobs or flicking through the delivery notes to see where he's goin or the like.

We have used Satnav over tens of thousands of miles now, it talks and even tells us the street names oon our newer models and gives audible junction warnings and speed limit warning and via TMC re routes before traffic jams and roads blocked with crashes.

Using Sat nav you are not driving alongside HGV's hoping that you see your junction sign or driving through Dudley looking at all the street names as you look for Alma road and dither around the road. Nor are you looking for the Nags Head the turning thats second or third after it and then the turning alongside the undertakers in a 3/4 mile road of shops and turnings.

Satnavs also give verbal prior warning as to when a turn is coming up and the a final verbal instruction so you even know waht lane to be in with you car and its even better with caravan behind.

There may again be some numpties that stare at the Satnav srceen or play with it as they drive, but for any one with half a brain it is a great driving aid and adds a lot to road safety.

It is a machine and is only as good as its mapping so you still have to engage brain and watch where its taking you.
 
Feb 8, 2007
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you just have not got a clue cris (walter) a biger load of cr*p I have yet to hear,try explaing your theory to the mother of the 23yr old girl who was killed outright when a pr*t of a lorry driver was playing with his new phone, & run in to stationery traffic, and reduced her car to the size of a suitcase. Of course there are lots of other distractions, but none as great as it has been proven on many occasions the mobile phone.

Berty...
 
Dec 16, 2003
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You are getting a little rude Berty, if you had any knowlege of Thurber you would realise how silly you are being with the name calling.

I assume you are over a certain age and like me if you do own a mobile it is a tool not a fashion accessory to be waved at every opportunity as many of todays youth do and then hop in their cars with all the other distractions they aspire to.

My point is that the mobile and other things have become accepted and only when its to late does anyone think about doing something about it.

As soon as my kids were on the road I fitted hands free kits to their cars which their friends found hilarious, I guess because they all drove with their mobile switched off. I think not!

I can't drive at present but this mobile phone law start has been on the news for some time now and my wife drives to work along roads seeing quite a lot of people using them and yesterday to and from work it was just the same! My car came fitted with a mobile as did my wifes and my friends BMW has an all singing system that lights up like Piccadilly Circus on the central console telling you who is calling etc.

As said the horse has bolted, but the new measures to stop mobile use are somewhat weak in my view. If police had been deployed on a kind of seek and kill mission yesterday hitting people using mobiles maybe people would take it more seriously.

News at Ten saying thousand were being fined might have some effect, until then my friends drivers will use their works hands free at times and still whip out their personal mobiles as they contend with the other distractions and have done it for years and years as have many others despite what he has told them.
 
Mar 14, 2005
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Driving any vehicle (or outfit) requires the full attention of the driver. Distractions of any sort should be avoided.

Cris and others have pointed out there are many distractions, all of which will diminish the drivers concentration and ability to drive.

The majority of the driving laws were introduces in time when there were less distractions than now, in a time before mobile phones or Sat Navs.

It is true that there were other distractions, such as tuning a radio, or lighting a cigarette, but in terms of time and the mental effort required to perform these tasks they were completed relatively quickly, and the drivers attention and hand can return to driving. To a large extent these became second nature requiring less mental effort.

By comparison, a conversation takes a relatively long time, and demands that the contributors have to listen and assess the information they receive, and then try to formulate a coherent response. This is a demanding process and needs considerable brain power to achieve it. We all know that it is a trait of human nature that if we need to concentrate hard or harder on a particular activity, speech is one of the first activities we drop to free up our mental agility..

Where we are conversing with a passenger, we have the prior knowledge of who they are, and that can help with the scope of the conversation. We are aware of the same sensual queues of the motion of the vehicle, and external activities. It is a common characteristic of conversations in cars that the driver's responses are often interrupted by short pauses, whilst concentration is directed to a driving manoeuvre or situation. As a sensitive passenger, you will share the same motion and visual queues as the driver and accept, understand and compensate for the interruptions in the conversation.

For a telephone conversation, the situation is more difficult. If we receive a call, at first we are not sure of who we will be talking too, nor the likely reason for the call. So we have to apply more mental effort to prepare for a 'blind' conversation. The two parties do not share the same motion or visual clues, and thus breaks in conversation are not so easily assimilated. Consequently, both parties have to work harder to keep the conversation flowing and relevant. The extra concentration required has to be to the detriment of a driver's ability to concentrate on driving. This is even more so if the driver has to hold the handset to his ear, which becomes a physical impediment, and introduces a dilemma of what to do with the handset if an manoeuvre is required.

I think it is wholly relevant that the use of hand held mobile phones has been outlawed. In my opinion they represent a significantly greater distraction to drivers than most other distraction issues.
 
Dec 16, 2003
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Our Satnavs lock themselves so you can't use them when driving, you have to over ride them if you are bonkers enough to play with it when driving.

Every time we turn on the unit gives out a safety warning as well that you then have to turn off before you can proceed.

I thought all Satanavs are the same due to some state laws in the USA.
 
May 18, 2006
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Driving around the last couple of days and I have seen the following still using their mobiles while driving:-

Young lads in their Saxo's etc.

White van man and

Wagon drivers.
 
Oct 17, 2006
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I called my husband more than bonkers, Our satnav was not fitted into the car, it was one of those purchased from a car (H) shops, pluged into cigarette lighter, came with an attachment to fit on dashboard, glad that it's gone, packed away never to be used again. Liz
 
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That was the type I was talking about Liz.

Sorry your hubby was the problem not the machine ;-)
Not only that the thing could not speak properly, you should hear 3rd exit, the thing should to say herd exit. Enough to put anybody off their driving.
 

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