You have given your age away Parksy with your checking car numbers,have you had your extra cold heating money yet?
our dealer has always checked our reg and put a number plate on each caravan we've bought off them but we have been going to the same place for 14 years
Hello Euro,
'A cheap shot crack'? no definatley not. A carefully worded question to ascertain your position with regard to using lawful registration plates.
I think your response has said it all.
Let the masses decide for themselves.
'A cheap shot crack'? no definatley not. A carefully worded question to ascertain your position with regard to using lawful registration plates.
I think your response has said it all.
Let the masses decide for themselves.
Parksy
Moderator
I'm almost but not quite there yet Jimbob.
Those were the days eh? We would wake up on winter mornings to a hard frost - on the inside of the window panes!
It seems like masses do decide for themselves John L.
On a short trip out this Morning across the Hogs back and down to Alton and then to Guildford.
Lexus sports with LEX wrongly spaced Number
Jag with A11 wrongly spaced and wrong font.
Audi with black screw heads placed to make a name in Sainsburys.
Towavan type trailer with marker pen number.
Digger trailer at road works with hand written number different to it towing truck.
Cosworth Sierra with wrong fonts and screws to tell all what it is.
Neighbours here have a new Range Rover, Audi TT and a Vauxhall with Illegal personal number plates.
The burger trailer on industrial estate with adhesive plates and a police man and woman having a coffee and a bite to eat. Of course that was off the road but is obviously driven there each day and parked illegaly!
Best of all heading to Guildford on the Hogs Back another Police car with delaminating illegal plate passing HGV with tied on plate spinning around on a piece of string.
We'll try and count up how many illegal plates we see on route to and from Derby tomorrow.
"Thrill" seekers beware
Before lecturing others John, I suggest you do something about the vast numbers of suppliers of illegal Personal/Show plates on UK roads.
The personal plates this morning were not home made adhesive plates as they appeared to be laminated.
I've been told that some dealers supply new cars with a legal personal plate fitted and complimentary "show plates". I expect owners rush home with their new car and put them on the mantle piece or over their bed head!
Then there's the DVLA profiteering, selling personal plates with a tongue in cheek warnings about how they appear on vehicles. If there is real concern about number plates being legal, withdraw the numbers that can so easily be corrupted. Change the format or stamp them out for each new car that then keeps the number for life.
On a short trip out this Morning across the Hogs back and down to Alton and then to Guildford.
Lexus sports with LEX wrongly spaced Number
Jag with A11 wrongly spaced and wrong font.
Audi with black screw heads placed to make a name in Sainsburys.
Towavan type trailer with marker pen number.
Digger trailer at road works with hand written number different to it towing truck.
Cosworth Sierra with wrong fonts and screws to tell all what it is.
Neighbours here have a new Range Rover, Audi TT and a Vauxhall with Illegal personal number plates.
The burger trailer on industrial estate with adhesive plates and a police man and woman having a coffee and a bite to eat. Of course that was off the road but is obviously driven there each day and parked illegaly!
Best of all heading to Guildford on the Hogs Back another Police car with delaminating illegal plate passing HGV with tied on plate spinning around on a piece of string.
We'll try and count up how many illegal plates we see on route to and from Derby tomorrow.
"Thrill" seekers beware
Before lecturing others John, I suggest you do something about the vast numbers of suppliers of illegal Personal/Show plates on UK roads.
The personal plates this morning were not home made adhesive plates as they appeared to be laminated.
I've been told that some dealers supply new cars with a legal personal plate fitted and complimentary "show plates". I expect owners rush home with their new car and put them on the mantle piece or over their bed head!
Then there's the DVLA profiteering, selling personal plates with a tongue in cheek warnings about how they appear on vehicles. If there is real concern about number plates being legal, withdraw the numbers that can so easily be corrupted. Change the format or stamp them out for each new car that then keeps the number for life.
Euro, congratulations on all your hard work.
Just because other people do it, does not mean we should advise others in a forum to do it too. Why not just admit that 'sorry you were not aware of the law' and quietly leave the post alone?
Just because other people do it, does not mean we should advise others in a forum to do it too. Why not just admit that 'sorry you were not aware of the law' and quietly leave the post alone?
euro.
It does not matter how much you wriggle by posting trivia, rubbish, whinge,etc etc etc. It all boils down to the fact that you are breaking the law but what is more important you advised some body else to do the same. How can anyone regard what you post in future as credible.
JTS.
It does not matter how much you wriggle by posting trivia, rubbish, whinge,etc etc etc. It all boils down to the fact that you are breaking the law but what is more important you advised some body else to do the same. How can anyone regard what you post in future as credible.
JTS.
We here in Germany don't have to concern ourselves with whether our number plates are legal or illegal because the vehicle licensing office does that for us. They apply the equivalent of the tax disc to each number plate so they have the opportunity to vet the plate for correct spacing, fonts, etc.
I don't think euro "advised" anything. He simply stated what he did. I posted a commeent to a comment earlier about this, in which I said that I'd used stick on plates on my trailers for years, and still do. That is not "advising" others to do the same.
Well what a laugh I have had reading this.
Until I realised that my caravan plate is now illegal.
Having had the same plate on my cars for the last 12 years the dealer has always just taken it off the back of my old van and put it on the new one.
Until I realised that my caravan plate is now illegal.
Having had the same plate on my cars for the last 12 years the dealer has always just taken it off the back of my old van and put it on the new one.
what an interesting load of replys. I have to say our last two vans had our number plates made up for us by the ndealer,so Nicola dont worry Im sure you will get sorted mout outbut take vehicle docs etc as advised earlier in this thread
Good luck Happy caravanning....... Sir Roger
Good luck Happy caravanning....... Sir Roger
i got to a place in lymm, and have got about 5 different sets of number plates made up, never had to give any details, never had a problem with them at an mot either, all for either mine or my dads cars, mike
Zafiral. I gave up hard work when I retired.
JTS. As we don't drive our tow cars under UK law, I'm not breaking your laws!
But I do find great humour in the "legal" preachers.
Adhesive plates and numbers that met correct reflective British standards with a correct font and spacing as the digits backing gave the correct spacings were never ever some tacky shoddy attempt of a registration plate as some posters here seem to suggest and I'm sure Emmerson will second that. Many classic sports cars of great value and in concourse pristine condition use them.
I just don't believe that UK plods are going to stop you and throw the book at you with a legal looking plate on something you trail behind your car when within a few minutes on the road there are numerous examples of blatantly obvious illegal plates and practices of a more serious nature.
As Lutz has hilighted, if there is really that big an issue you close the loopholes and shut down the sellers of iffy plates rather than have these potty half baked laws brought in and hope that all will comply when the authorities have little if any interest or ability to enforce the law.
To suggest that somebody would get some kind of "high" from using a plate that looks no different to the "legal" plate and is of a former British Legal Standard and still in wide use deserves some contempt and twisted humour when many balatantly break the law.
JTS. As we don't drive our tow cars under UK law, I'm not breaking your laws!
But I do find great humour in the "legal" preachers.
Adhesive plates and numbers that met correct reflective British standards with a correct font and spacing as the digits backing gave the correct spacings were never ever some tacky shoddy attempt of a registration plate as some posters here seem to suggest and I'm sure Emmerson will second that. Many classic sports cars of great value and in concourse pristine condition use them.
I just don't believe that UK plods are going to stop you and throw the book at you with a legal looking plate on something you trail behind your car when within a few minutes on the road there are numerous examples of blatantly obvious illegal plates and practices of a more serious nature.
As Lutz has hilighted, if there is really that big an issue you close the loopholes and shut down the sellers of iffy plates rather than have these potty half baked laws brought in and hope that all will comply when the authorities have little if any interest or ability to enforce the law.
To suggest that somebody would get some kind of "high" from using a plate that looks no different to the "legal" plate and is of a former British Legal Standard and still in wide use deserves some contempt and twisted humour when many balatantly break the law.
Whether or not anyone considers a law "half baked" is irrelevant. Lots of people don't agree with all laws but still tend to obey them. If there were no regulations on size and font of number plates and posters on this forum were invlolved in a hit & run but couldn't read the offending vehicle's number plate because of small scrawled letters, then you'd see some changes of opinion!
We're talking a tenner here on a 10 grand caravan!
We're talking a tenner here on a 10 grand caravan!
Did you not read what was posted Chrisbee!
Scrawled number plates and corrupted "show plates" and fonts are common place and go unchallenged! Itclearly appears that whatever the law may say its a fat lot of good!
How the does it help prevent crime if the above go unchallenged and anyone can by a laminated plate exactly the same as a legal plate under the guise of it being a "show plate"
Adhesive plates are REFLECTIVE EQUATING TO CURRENT STANDARDS and have CORRECT FONTS and SPACINGS , legal they may not be. But they are as easily read or zapped by a speed camera and if anything they are clearer to read under lighting as the numbers are not covered by perspex type covering and also they do not suffer from delamination as they are of two part construction not a three part laminated sandwich type.
As anyone can easily buy a legal looking identical "show plate" without the need for log book or ID, why is nobody prosecuting drivers and how come there is a thriving market place. What it means is that you have no idea if a legal plate is actually a legal plate unless you can trace it back to a supplier and check that they took the details of the vehicle it was meant for and the ID of the purchaser.
Scrawled number plates and corrupted "show plates" and fonts are common place and go unchallenged! Itclearly appears that whatever the law may say its a fat lot of good!
How the does it help prevent crime if the above go unchallenged and anyone can by a laminated plate exactly the same as a legal plate under the guise of it being a "show plate"
Adhesive plates are REFLECTIVE EQUATING TO CURRENT STANDARDS and have CORRECT FONTS and SPACINGS , legal they may not be. But they are as easily read or zapped by a speed camera and if anything they are clearer to read under lighting as the numbers are not covered by perspex type covering and also they do not suffer from delamination as they are of two part construction not a three part laminated sandwich type.
As anyone can easily buy a legal looking identical "show plate" without the need for log book or ID, why is nobody prosecuting drivers and how come there is a thriving market place. What it means is that you have no idea if a legal plate is actually a legal plate unless you can trace it back to a supplier and check that they took the details of the vehicle it was meant for and the ID of the purchaser.
Parksy
Moderator
Euro
We don't have access to the figures which will show how many car owners or drivers of cars fitted with what you describe as 'show plates' are prosecuted in the UK so when you ask 'why is nobody prosecuting drivers and how come there is a thriving market place?
the answer must be 'We don't know!'
What percentage of UK registered cars drive around with number plates which don't comlply with current UK legislation? Does anyone have the figures? How many 'show plates' are actually sold in the 'thriving market place' that you describe? Are the statistics kept anywhere? Do you have them?
This topic was started by a caravanner who asked a perfectly simple and reasonable question. I'd say that the question was answered and that the number plate that was asked about originally is now firmly affixed to the back of the caravan.
Amusing though it's been at times this thread is turning into yet another online rant where pointless and silly assertions are being made for reasons which are not clear.
If anyone wishes to open a topic about legal or non legal number plates on caravans then open your own and stop hi jacking other peoples threads.
Those who are actually interested can then contribute to your thread if they wish to do so while the rest of us read about issues and topics which are of relevence to us in the real world.
Before you reply with yet another rant giving details of the number plates that you have seen on the roads which are deemed illegal or non compliant by you please let the rest of us know which roads you will be using before you depart these shores so that we can
a/ check every detail on our vehicles so that they will pass your exacting scrutiny and
b/Avoid these roads because if you can spot all of these things whilst actually driving you can't be concentrating on the road much and if you're a passenger anyone unfortunate to have to drive would be distracted by your constant harping on about number plates.
We don't have access to the figures which will show how many car owners or drivers of cars fitted with what you describe as 'show plates' are prosecuted in the UK so when you ask 'why is nobody prosecuting drivers and how come there is a thriving market place?
the answer must be 'We don't know!'
What percentage of UK registered cars drive around with number plates which don't comlply with current UK legislation? Does anyone have the figures? How many 'show plates' are actually sold in the 'thriving market place' that you describe? Are the statistics kept anywhere? Do you have them?
This topic was started by a caravanner who asked a perfectly simple and reasonable question. I'd say that the question was answered and that the number plate that was asked about originally is now firmly affixed to the back of the caravan.
Amusing though it's been at times this thread is turning into yet another online rant where pointless and silly assertions are being made for reasons which are not clear.
If anyone wishes to open a topic about legal or non legal number plates on caravans then open your own and stop hi jacking other peoples threads.
Those who are actually interested can then contribute to your thread if they wish to do so while the rest of us read about issues and topics which are of relevence to us in the real world.
Before you reply with yet another rant giving details of the number plates that you have seen on the roads which are deemed illegal or non compliant by you please let the rest of us know which roads you will be using before you depart these shores so that we can
a/ check every detail on our vehicles so that they will pass your exacting scrutiny and
b/Avoid these roads because if you can spot all of these things whilst actually driving you can't be concentrating on the road much and if you're a passenger anyone unfortunate to have to drive would be distracted by your constant harping on about number plates.
You dont need to have access to the figures of illegal
number plates ! I spotted four in my local super market
this morning !
It may be a strange concept to you and some others Parksy.
PASSENGER !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Haven't driven for weeks
PASSENGER !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Haven't driven for weeks
Why recommend Halfords over any other motor factors and motorist shops? what have they done to gain endorsement of the magazine or this forum.
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