Is it illegal? (Particularly if the vehicle only leaves about two foot of pavement for pedestrians to walk on).
And if so, who do you report it to?
Lisa
And if so, who do you report it to?
Lisa
Parking a vehicle half on the pavement/half on the road
- Thread starter LMH
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Hi Lisa
See this http://www.direct.gov.uk/en/TravelAndTransport/Highwaycode/DG_069860?CID=TAT&PLA=url_mon&CRE=highwaycode_parking
It is illegal to park on the pavement unless a sign says otherwise.
In the first instance report it to the Police as an offence is taking place.
See this http://www.direct.gov.uk/en/TravelAndTransport/Highwaycode/DG_069860?CID=TAT&PLA=url_mon&CRE=highwaycode_parking
It is illegal to park on the pavement unless a sign says otherwise.
In the first instance report it to the Police as an offence is taking place.
Thanks dusty, that's really useful. I'll deal with it when I get back. We've got some neighbours (a couple) who are really causing a nuisance. The husband thinks the front of our house is his personal parking space.
They had loads of visitors today, all parked stupidly, one parked about 10 feet from the junction, another parked across the bus stop. A woman in a brand new BMW parked well, parked like she hadn't even passed her test. Front end, two foot away from our perimeter fence, back of the vehicle, swinging out into the road.
I wouldn't mind but they are just so arrogant.
Lisa x
They had loads of visitors today, all parked stupidly, one parked about 10 feet from the junction, another parked across the bus stop. A woman in a brand new BMW parked well, parked like she hadn't even passed her test. Front end, two foot away from our perimeter fence, back of the vehicle, swinging out into the road.
I wouldn't mind but they are just so arrogant.
Lisa x
Hello Lisa.
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"The husband thinks the front of our house is his personal parking space."
Just a point, no householder has the sole rights to the road space outside thier property; so there is nothing to prevents your neighbour from using that space, provided they are not causing an obstruction. Equally you have no additional rights to claim it as yours - it is public highway.
Trying to claim that someone's parking is an obstruction is not easy, unless the Police or council agree. If a competent driver can negotiate the parked vehicle it is unlikely to be classed as an obstruction.
Some councils may if asked, introduce permit only parking, and sometimes that may be specific space allocated to a particular household, but more generally it is limited to a street or locality.
Some modern housing developments provide property specific parking spaces, but these are generally off street spaces.
With matters like this it is far better if it can be sorted out sensible without resorting threatening legal actions. Some times local councils have an arbitration service that may be able to help.
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"The husband thinks the front of our house is his personal parking space."
Just a point, no householder has the sole rights to the road space outside thier property; so there is nothing to prevents your neighbour from using that space, provided they are not causing an obstruction. Equally you have no additional rights to claim it as yours - it is public highway.
Trying to claim that someone's parking is an obstruction is not easy, unless the Police or council agree. If a competent driver can negotiate the parked vehicle it is unlikely to be classed as an obstruction.
Some councils may if asked, introduce permit only parking, and sometimes that may be specific space allocated to a particular household, but more generally it is limited to a street or locality.
Some modern housing developments provide property specific parking spaces, but these are generally off street spaces.
With matters like this it is far better if it can be sorted out sensible without resorting threatening legal actions. Some times local councils have an arbitration service that may be able to help.
Damian
Moderator
Hi Lisa,
I know what you mean about inconsiderate parking, and the half on/half off the pavement issue, but as with most things these days no-one, especially the Police give a rats *** about it.
The reply I got about such parking is that if a woman can get a pushchair past the obstruction,its OK............
Well, I am sorry but its NOT ,OK, Roads are for cars, Pavements are for pedestrians.
Due to personal circumstances we have an Access Protection bar painted on the road outside our house, but even though it is bright white, some people still think its OK to park on it,completely blocking our access.
I have no hesitation in calling the Police and getting the vehicle towed away.
The days of common courtesy have gone forever, so its dog eat dog now,,,sadly.
I know what you mean about inconsiderate parking, and the half on/half off the pavement issue, but as with most things these days no-one, especially the Police give a rats *** about it.
The reply I got about such parking is that if a woman can get a pushchair past the obstruction,its OK............
Well, I am sorry but its NOT ,OK, Roads are for cars, Pavements are for pedestrians.
Due to personal circumstances we have an Access Protection bar painted on the road outside our house, but even though it is bright white, some people still think its OK to park on it,completely blocking our access.
I have no hesitation in calling the Police and getting the vehicle towed away.
The days of common courtesy have gone forever, so its dog eat dog now,,,sadly.
Cars parked partly on the pavement can be a nuisance sometimes, but maybe they do not have a chocie if the road has a cycle lane. I have parked partly on the pavement on a narrow road to allow safe passage of a large vehicle i.e. fire engine, but I have made sure that there is enough room for pedestrians.
Thanks Damian, I think you've summed it up nicely.
John - I know I can't stop anyone from parking in front of my house.
Yesterday it looked like the 10 or so vehicles all visiting the house had been parked by drunk drivers. It reminded me a bit of when a toddler has been playing with small toy cars on the carpet and just left them there. I know some women can't park, but this was a real sight to behold.
Anyway, when all the visitors had gone. I was sitting outside in the back garden. And I was treated to the sounds of erm, cough, cough, moans and groans coming from their wide open upstairs window. (They live next door but one). God, how embarrassing. As my husband said to me, 'I don't think it's got anything to do with his new wife being half his age'. LOL!!
John - I know I can't stop anyone from parking in front of my house.
Yesterday it looked like the 10 or so vehicles all visiting the house had been parked by drunk drivers. It reminded me a bit of when a toddler has been playing with small toy cars on the carpet and just left them there. I know some women can't park, but this was a real sight to behold.
Anyway, when all the visitors had gone. I was sitting outside in the back garden. And I was treated to the sounds of erm, cough, cough, moans and groans coming from their wide open upstairs window. (They live next door but one). God, how embarrassing. As my husband said to me, 'I don't think it's got anything to do with his new wife being half his age'. LOL!!
"Cars parked partly on the pavement can be a nuisance sometimes, but maybe they do not have a chocie if the road has a cycle lane. I have parked partly on the pavement on a narrow road to allow safe passage of a large vehicle i.e. fire engine, but I have made sure that there is enough room for pedestrians."
Of course there is a choice ! Park your car somewhere safe AND WALK. As previously quoted, pavements are for pedestrians, noy inconsiderate drivers. My father is sadly blind, however he is able to find his way around locally, walking on the pavements, provoding some thoughless and selfish **** doesnt park on the pavement. Please, DONT DO IT !
Of course there is a choice ! Park your car somewhere safe AND WALK. As previously quoted, pavements are for pedestrians, noy inconsiderate drivers. My father is sadly blind, however he is able to find his way around locally, walking on the pavements, provoding some thoughless and selfish **** doesnt park on the pavement. Please, DONT DO IT !
This could be difficult if you are disabled. I am sad to hear about your father's disability, but surely your father has a white stick or a guide dog. As I said, I always make sure that there is enough room for a pedestrian to pass safely. Maybe if you have a grievance you should raise ti with whoever designed narrow roads with no parking.brightmore said:
Surfer said:
I think it may be even harder with a guide dog as you clearly need more width!
Where I grew up the lane was narrow because people never had cars . Dad has his garage at the back and I and my brother parked on the grass verge, making a real mess in the winter as the tyres sunk in. Bad boys then eh?
Now of course every family seems to have at least two cars and no driveways. At least modern building regulations demand a new house comes with at least one parking place.
I guess if we were to all walk along the roads slowing down the traffic there would be trouble.
Roads for cars , pavements for pedestrians, that's not asking a lot or being unreasonable.
If you park your car half on the pavement and someone who is blind or in a wheel chair or pushing a pram scratches the paint work who is liable? When I see this kind of parking I often think it would serve the person right if they got a big scratch all along their car and if I saw it happen I would be 100% on the side of the pedestrian.
Surfer.........It appears to be you who has the problem with narrow roads...not pedestrians, sorry but your attitude seems a bit selfish and you seem to have little or no concern for pedestrians, blind or not.....it is an offence to park on a pavement and cause an obstruction...end of arguement
One of my real hates. Try even walking your pet around our village, its easier to walk on the road than the pavements, they dont leave much room, and one day I swear I'll sneak out in the middle of the night and let there tyres down!!!!!!!!!!!!
LMH said:
Thinking about this, and if I had a filly half my age, I think I'd keep the windows open so the world would know that I'm still capable of trotting the course. Having been married to the same nag for a lot of years I'm still occasionally partial to my oats but keep the stable door shut when I break out into a rare canter
Now where did I put my whip
We get a lot of inconsiderate parking on our estate and it's difficult to get past sometimes when walking the dog. I make a point of using their gardens as the path where thay are open plan, while the dog treats anything vertical e.g. wheels, on the pathway as a suitable pissoir.
Parksy
Moderator
Lord Braykewynde said:LMH said:
Thinking about this, and if I had a filly half my age, I think I'd keep the windows open so the world would know that I'm still capable of trotting the course. Having been married to the same nag for a lot of years I'm still occasionally partial to my oats but keep the stable door shut when I break out into a rare canter
Now where did I put my whip
Way too much information Lord B
Parksy - Moderator said:Way too much information Lord B
I've been away for over 3 weeks so I'm making up for lost time
.... besides, it wasn't meant to be taken seriously hence the use of equine parlance.
I believe Surfer is actually disabled! i dont believe "selfish" is a diferent way to spell DISABLED!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!brightmore said:
PS. i park half on half off the pavement regular....In my Lorry! Mr policemen even tells me to do it!
Parksy
Moderator
Just watch out in case a chariot is parked half on and half off your pavement with the mule kicking in your stall when you've been put out to grassLord Braykewynde said:
JonnyG said:
Jonny
Your copper is out of order.Tell his Chief Constable and the poor policeman will lose his job.
The law is the law and no policeman has the right to tell you something that is wrong.
First priority in cities is the roads and not the pavements, roads have to be kept as clear as poss for Emergency vehicles!and to keep traffic flowing. Even if you are parked proper and legal you may well be asked to move onto the pavement and Mr policeman's boss aint going to sack anybody over it. On many occasions have been asked if I could move over to help traffic flow! this meant parking half on and half off pavements.Now i assess and if poss stay all on the road if not i park accordingly half on half off.
Why not take a look at construction sites around say London? to see numerous situation like I mentioned the only place you will regularly get into trouble is if you park across 3 diplomatic parking spaces. Common sense is the key! not to totally block the road or totally block the pavement.Although i have been asked and have blocked the total pavement too! so the trafic could flow
Why not take a look at construction sites around say London? to see numerous situation like I mentioned the only place you will regularly get into trouble is if you park across 3 diplomatic parking spaces. Common sense is the key! not to totally block the road or totally block the pavement.Although i have been asked and have blocked the total pavement too! so the trafic could flow
Jonny
Lisa merely asked if it is illegal?
According to English Law it is illegal unless a local authority or Highways sign says otherwise.
There can be no halfway house.
Lisa merely asked if it is illegal?
According to English Law it is illegal unless a local authority or Highways sign says otherwise.
There can be no halfway house.
Strange that, if everything was as straight forward is you seem to think, there would be no need for Barristers for a start.Dustydog said:
Secondly councils and local authorities cannot make actual laws!
It is apparently illegal to drive across a pavement to park your car in a driveway, and yet depending where you live, a permit to lower the pavement is all that is required! to change an illegal action into a legal one!So clearly nothing set in stone there then.
You can be fined upto £50 for doing so or you could back in 2009 .
Even killing someone, which is apparently illegal,opps sorry apparently there is such a thing as justifiably killing! again "half way house"
And next time I legally park on the side of the road and in effect restrict traffic movement and the police ask me if I could shunt over half on the pavement,should I tell them I cannot because it is illegal and "there is no halfway house"! I think not i'll take the advice offered by the police thank you.
JonnyJonnyG said:
Yes they can.
My wife is a Town Councillor and they are allowed by Act of Parliament to passs Local Bylaws where they see fit.
As for the rest ; what can I say. Seems like you think you are above the Law. Well you are not and it's your licence not mine.
Come on Jonny, the pavements are for pedestrians , roads for cars; what's the problem???
! note your wording "bylaws"!Dustydog said:
Please read my original post, i make no mention what so ever regarding cars! I simply made a true statement of how the world IS.and how i have for all purposes parked my lorry legally half on half off the pavement. FACT now if you would like to take the matter up with the metropolitan police do so by all means. but dont make silly responses like "seems like you think you are above the law" clearly i am spelling policeman wrong! otherwise you would not be making silly retorts like that, after all I am taking advice from "the LAW"and not trying to be above it! So my licence is safe! although i didn't know it was an edoresable offence anyway!
Now in the perfect world as you would like it, indeed the pavement would be only for pedestrians, the roads would be clear all the time and parking would not be an issue.
Unfortunately alas the world is not like that, so for me common sense is far more important then any debate on legalities.
If that means cars on pavements so be it, as long as common sense says there is plenty of room for people to walk by or get twin baby cots by, then thats fine by me. there are far more important issues worth debating
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