We have recently pitched our touring caravan on a seasonal pitch. We currently have 2 x propane gas bottles in the front of the caravan. With winter fast approaching we were hoping to purchase a large bottle of propane that would stand outside of the van ....our dilemma is what hose should we use as it would need to be around 1.5m in length?
seasonal pitch - gas dilemma!
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Not all site owners allow larger bottles to stand outside of caravans for safety reasons. Does yours?
Damian
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Touring caravans are not certified to allow anything other than a MAX high pressure hose of 450mm.
The problems do not stop there, you may not be able to site a large cylinder outside the van depending on site rules.
If you are allowed, the cylinder must be sited on a firm level base and the cylinder secured so that it cannot be tampered with or fall over.
If you choose to ignore the legalities and fit longer hose that will be entirely at your own risk.
The longer hose MUST have swaged fittings, Jubilee clips are NOT permitted on high pressure hoses.
You will also run a much higher risk of regulator contamination due to the longer hose length.
I would very strongly suggest staying with what you have, it is legal, safely out of the way and you would be very unlikely to use two cylinders in less than 24 hours, so plenty of time to get replacements.
The problems do not stop there, you may not be able to site a large cylinder outside the van depending on site rules.
If you are allowed, the cylinder must be sited on a firm level base and the cylinder secured so that it cannot be tampered with or fall over.
If you choose to ignore the legalities and fit longer hose that will be entirely at your own risk.
The longer hose MUST have swaged fittings, Jubilee clips are NOT permitted on high pressure hoses.
You will also run a much higher risk of regulator contamination due to the longer hose length.
I would very strongly suggest staying with what you have, it is legal, safely out of the way and you would be very unlikely to use two cylinders in less than 24 hours, so plenty of time to get replacements.
I now use a 10kg Safefill cylinder yes the initial cost was expensive, but when i filled it back up again last weekend it only cost me £7.53p 
Since buying the bottle so far i have used approx 27kg of gas at a cost of just over £30
For the same amount of gas used from a Calor light bottle it would have cost me over £100hmy: by this time next year my bottle will have easily paid for itself .....
If you use a lot of gas and can get one of these filled locally then it's worth the initial layout.
Since buying the bottle so far i have used approx 27kg of gas at a cost of just over £30
For the same amount of gas used from a Calor light bottle it would have cost me over £100
hmy: by this time next year my bottle will have easily paid for itself .....If you use a lot of gas and can get one of these filled locally then it's worth the initial layout.
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Sproket
You've got me going now. That is one heck of a saving. Whilst I use two 6kg Calor propanes the Safefill should fit , well I think so as there is not much difference in diameter and height.
I know a full CG propane is 17kgs but I can't find out how heavy a full Safefill is.
Also I have to ask is that your sister in the pics :kiss:
You've got me going now. That is one heck of a saving. Whilst I use two 6kg Calor propanes the Safefill should fit , well I think so as there is not much difference in diameter and height.
I know a full CG propane is 17kgs but I can't find out how heavy a full Safefill is.
Also I have to ask is that your sister in the pics :kiss:
Dustydog said:
:silly: :silly:
This is on top of my bottle showing 7.0kg tare weight & holds 10.3kg of propane it weighs 17kg when full
Also if the bottle was totally empty you can only get 19.5 liters of lpg into it to refill it back to full so @.57p per ltr that works out at £11.11p :silly: The real weight difference is the empty weight of the bottle compared to the CG one
the new Safefill is showing 15kg when full ( see below )A full 13kg Calor bottle weighs approx 30kg
So as a example: - two of the new Safefill 10kg bottles will weigh approx the same as a 13kg CG when full, but they will have between them a extra 7kgs of gas.
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Hello Debham,
I totally agree with the idea of the Safefill cylinders, for added capacity and less weight, but there can be a downside - how to get them filled.
Don't be fooled by the idea of using "Autogas" filling stations for cars. Most of these sites will not allow you to refill portable cylinders from their supplies, so you have to find an approved refilling site for portable cylinders. If its more than few miles out of the way then you have to weigh up the cost of travelling just to fill the cylinders.
You also have to factor in that after 10 years the cylinders need to be safety tested, which at the moment means returning them to the manufacture (at your expense).
I totally agree with the idea of the Safefill cylinders, for added capacity and less weight, but there can be a downside - how to get them filled.
Don't be fooled by the idea of using "Autogas" filling stations for cars. Most of these sites will not allow you to refill portable cylinders from their supplies, so you have to find an approved refilling site for portable cylinders. If its more than few miles out of the way then you have to weigh up the cost of travelling just to fill the cylinders.
You also have to factor in that after 10 years the cylinders need to be safety tested, which at the moment means returning them to the manufacture (at your expense).
How would you transport them back to get re checked? As none of the courier companies would handle them?
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