Sim cards and dongles.

Jan 2, 2008
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With two trips of a month each booked to France, I'm wondering if it's worth buying a French sim card for use in my mobile phone. Has anyone done a comparison of costs between that and having a roving arrangement?
Also, is it still the case that buying a wireless dongle for my laptop in France is not viable? I know that using dongles bought in England is prohibitively expensive and that the advice has been to use hot spots or site networks.
There have been quite a few posts on both of these topics in the past, but situations change and someone may have some more up-to-date information. If either of these is now more practical, how would I go about it?
 
Feb 27, 2010
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some dongles are very cheap and the rates very good. If you laptop as wifi you could always locate a local wifi hotspot , and since Maccydees are to be found everywhere....
The other alternative is to use Skype. if the people you know want to call you or you them then you if you can all load up skype you can get free phone calls using anyones wifi hotspot or even your own dongle.

I suppose you could get the french version of our pay as you go. At carphone warehouse you can buy a voice and text handset and a sim card for less for than £25.0 at times. I am sure there will be similar deals in france.
http://www.0044.co.uk/france.htm
http://www.superline.co.uk/mobile.html
http://boutique.orange.fr/ESHOP_mx_ft/?tp=php&donnee_appel=FTASN&IDCible=1&type=4&code_rubrique=5-504008
http://www.leclercmobile.fr/mobiles.html
at Leclerc you can buy a phone for around 20 Euros , a pyg sim for 12 euros and away you go.

good luck
 
Jul 11, 2006
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If your laptop has wi-fi built-in many sites have either free or low-cost access. Most McDonalds also provide free wi-fi and it is 24/7 and works outside. If you laptop does not have built-in wi-fi buy yourself a USB dongle; if your PC is older and only has USB 1.1 then get a PCMCIA USB 2.0 adapter to put in the slot, then plug your dongle into that.
If the laptop route is an option then either use Skype - which is free to another Skype user, anywhere - or open an account with a VoIP provider such as voip.co.uk or sipgate. You can load it with, say, a tenner, and it will cost you 2p/min maximum to a landline. Interestingly it will give you a UK number which people can use to call you. Download a soft-phone - I use Phonerlite - and buy yourself a USB handset, then it is just like making a normal phone call. I have found it very effective and the speech quality is as good as a line phone albeit with slight delay sometimes.

As others have said you can buy a PAYG SIM in France and stick it in your (umlocked) phone (French supplied phones incidently are all unlocked - it is against the law to lock them) and it will be cheaper then using a UK phone. If your phone is not unlocked you can buy a phone from Asda on the Asda tarrif (Vodafone - but you don't have to activate it) for £15 and us that over there. Whilst people calling you will have to pay more you will not have to pay to receive the call. The downside is that making calls does not keep you account active, only topping it up does that. Minimum top-up is €10-15 dependent upon provider, and if you don't top up the phone in a fixed time - with SFR that used to be 8 weeks - the phone stops working and you loose any credit. With some providers you cannot ring the top-up line from outside France other than on your mobile, so if it should expire then you are stuffed. The up side is that IME most of the top-up line do have operators that can speak some English.
Finally, consider text. You can make you phone go immediately to voicemail and change your outgoing to say only leave a message if it is frighteningly urgent or better still send a text. You will be notified if a message is left and can make your own decision how to respond. Receipt of voicemail notification and/or texts is free. Sending a text is more expensive than over here - upwards of 22p (€0.25) but at least you are not chatting and running up costs. You can also buy a French payphone card which costs (or used to cost) about 10p/min to call the UK - which is cheaper than mobile. Until it runs out of money a phonecard never expires.
 
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If your laptop has wi-fi built-in many sites have either free or low-cost access. Most McDonalds also provide free wi-fi and it is 24/7 and works outside. If you laptop does not have built-in wi-fi buy yourself a USB dongle; if your PC is older and only has USB 1.1 then get a PCMCIA USB 2.0 adapter to put in the slot, then plug your dongle into that.
If the laptop route is an option then either use Skype - which is free to another Skype user, anywhere - or open an account with a VoIP provider such as voip.co.uk or sipgate. You can load it with, say, a tenner, and it will cost you 2p/min maximum to a landline. Interestingly it will give you a UK number which people can use to call you. Download a soft-phone - I use Phonerlite - and buy yourself a USB handset, then it is just like making a normal phone call. I have found it very effective and the speech quality is as good as a line phone albeit with slight delay sometimes.

As others have said you can buy a PAYG SIM in France and stick it in your (umlocked) phone (French supplied phones incidently are all unlocked - it is against the law to lock them) and it will be cheaper then using a UK phone. If your phone is not unlocked you can buy a phone from Asda on the Asda tarrif (Vodafone - but you don't have to activate it) for £15 and us that over there. Whilst people calling you will have to pay more you will not have to pay to receive the call. The downside is that making calls does not keep you account active, only topping it up does that. Minimum top-up is €10-15 dependent upon provider, and if you don't top up the phone in a fixed time - with SFR that used to be 8 weeks - the phone stops working and you loose any credit. With some providers you cannot ring the top-up line from outside France other than on your mobile, so if it should expire then you are stuffed. The up side is that IME most of the top-up line do have operators that can speak some English.
Finally, consider text. You can make you phone go immediately to voicemail and change your outgoing to say only leave a message if it is frighteningly urgent or better still send a text. You will be notified if a message is left and can make your own decision how to respond. Receipt of voicemail notification and/or texts is free. Sending a text is more expensive than over here - upwards of 22p (€0.25) but at least you are not chatting and running up costs. You can also buy a French payphone card which costs (or used to cost) about 10p/min to call the UK - which is cheaper than mobile. Until it runs out of money a phonecard never expires.
 
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We are with the 3 network, and in France using their Roaming Tarif, texts are charged at 10p from France to the UK. Woody's right, it's cheaper to buy a Standard land line 'phone card from the local 'Tabac' and use the local 'phone boxes.
Charges after 18.00 hrs wekdays and all day at weekends are cheap (under 6p per minute) The cards come in various € prices from 7 thru to 25. So that a 10 minute call to the UK works out at about 60p. They last for 1 year, so what you don't use, if you are returning the following year, they could still be valid. It's our preffered methods to keep in touch, if we cannot find a free WiFi access point.
 
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Woody said:
(French supplied phones incidently are all unlocked - it is against the law to lock them)
Better tell SFR, Orange & Bouygtel who have all supplied me locked phones on contract.
The downside is that making calls does not keep you account active, only topping it up does that. Minimum top-up is €10-15 dependent upon provider, and if you don't top up the phone in a fixed time - with SFR that used to be 8 weeks - the phone stops working and you loose any credit
The time-out time depends on the value of the last top-up although the E.Leclerc SIM cards don't expire but they do take either 1.5 or 3.5€ from the remaining credit per month.
France seems to be entering the 21th Century with regards to mobile data & all the service providers are bringing out new PAYG deals almost every week, so it might be worth having a look at the web sites just before you travel.
The French for a Mobile Internet adaptor is Cle.
 

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