Sleeping in awning annexe - keeping warm

LMH

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Hi

Any tips?

We have a trip booked for next winter. My daughter and her friend will have to sleep in the awning annexe. We have an inner tent for it. Any tips on making it a bit warmer etc?

Thanks.

Lisa
 
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Good sleeping bags are the key. That, and making sure that the awning is well anchored down. Winter gales can be interesting inside an awning!

I'm not advocating that you leave it on all night in the case of a gas one, but there are a number of good awning heaters, both gas and electric, which will keep the temperature up through the wee small hours.

Just pray for reasonably good weather.
 
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Hi Lisa

Just having a peek to see what is going on here.

Collect some thick cardboard boxes and use them to pack some of the things into your car. These can then be flattened and placed underneath the sleeping bags and will give some extra insulation against cold striking upwards. You can also place some strong cardboard undernesth the actual sleeping tent, but on top of the ground sheet, which will also keep the warmth in. All can be despatched to the bin area on departure.

Ann
 
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Hi lmh,Maybe get some of those silver foil insulation body wraps like you see them wrap the marathon runners in when they cross the finish line.underneath a sleeping bag the should keep the body heat in.You may be able to pick them up from most outdoor outlets.Good luck.HTH.Kev.
 
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Hi Lisa,

Considering the very lightweight and relatively open weave of the material the inner sleeping compartments are made from, it will be difficult to provide a comfortable 17 to 21C inside on a cold night even with a powerful heater.

A good sleeping bag is essential. (4 season for 0C conditions), but also an insulating mat under the bag helps to reduce heat loss where the fabric has been compressed by body weight. Such mats are sold by camping shops.

A lot of heat is lost from the head, so a woolly hat or a sleeping bag with a hood will be the most effective.

A hat water bottle can be a real comfort to warm the bag before getting into it.

If you are really intent (please excuse the pun) on warming the whole sleeping compartment, then it would be wise to improve the insulation of the tent, otherwise you will basically be heating the whole awning, and the night sky.

I have never actually tried this, but well prepared hikers, will use many thin layers of clothing rather than one thick one, for comfort and heat retention. So If you have two sleeping compartments put one inside the other to double the effective wall thickness.

Alternatively, erect a small hiking tent inside the awning. These have better heat retention, because the fabric is often heat reflective, and a closer weave, that reduced thermal convection through the fabric. The down side of these tents is the fact that moisture will not pass through the fabric, so condensation on the inside can become a problem after two people sleeping all night and breathing out lots of water vapour. A canvas tent is more comfortable as the condensation will actually wick through the outer canvas by capillary action and evaporate from the outside.
 
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Hi

I'm sure I've read somewhere that airbeds aren't the warmest places to sleep...something to do with heat conduction/convection or something just as sciencey !().

Have you thought about one of those more specialised self-inflating camping mats - like the ones made by Therm-a-Rest - I've got their Basecamp mattress from the time before I got a van and it's fantastically comfy.

A company called Alpkit.com do something similar but at a much cheaper price. go for their Fat Airic as they are quite thick and heavyish - so long as you don't want to cary it on your back anywhere!

Also don't forget, as others have said, that you need to insulate as much from underneath as you do from on top - so anything to prevent the ground chill from rising would be a good idea.
 
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lisa, where have you booked?.

i would get them thermals, gloves hats, thermal sox, and have a heater on in the awning facing them. reece has slept in the awning in the winter at moreton site he survived.

jo-anne
 
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Pat, to answer your query re being kicked out: I'm a man. In a woman's eyes, that's reason enough, isn't it?

Seriously though, we sometimes take Herself's widowed sister with us, and our Royale is two berth, so guess who goes in the awning?
 
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Lisa

Take Lord B with you. He has developed a warm air blower that will easily raise the temperature in any awning, or any other out building.
 
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Sleeping in an awning must be like sleeping in a tent surely
Hello Pat,

Whilst tents and awnings may be made of similar materials, awnings are usually far more draughty than a tent. - so they will be less comfortable
 

LMH

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Hi

Thanks for all the replies, I have a lot to go on now.

I wouln't take LB with me because I couldn't put up with his moaning.

Lisa
 
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LIsa a few points spring to mind here. First of all think of the vagrants sleeping rough - they use newspaper as a thermal barrier. Secondly from previous postings I recall that you are a dog lover - most dogs stay as warm as toast no matter where they sleep so cuddle up to one of your four legged friends, I am sure the dog would enjoy the friendly cuddle. Thirdly when we go away in the van whether we sleep in the van or the awning and no matter what time of year we always lay a continental quilt under us as well as over us and it is always nice and warm. The bad part is getting out of a warm bed in the cold to get dressed. Good luck which ever method you use - I am sure you will enjoy yourself.
 

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