Locally a young motorcyclist collided with a car and was killed. Now someone wants to collect money from the community and build a park where young motorcyclists can go and use their motorbikes in a safe environment. They said it would be a nice thing to do in his memory. Now this motorcyclist was 15 years old, riding on a public road with no insurance or licence. His 13 year old pillion passenger ended up critically ill in hospital. If they are successful they will probably want to name the park in his honour. It was a councillors suggestion, a supposedly respected member of the public, to collect and build a park. Are we now sending out the wrong messages to law breakers and juvenile kids. There was no mention of whether the person in the car was injured but they now have to find the money to repair it. Now the point of this thread is - is it me being unfair/unjust or has society just completely lost it (or maybe just certain members like the councillor who can see votes the next time he's up for election).
SOCIETY GONE MAD AGAIN?
- Thread starter Lord Braykewynde
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No you are right Lord - the World as seen by most in authority in the UK has gone mad and it is getting worse.
Until these idiots stop blaming "society" for everything and make individuals responcible for their actions the madness will just get worse.
What make your example especially wrong is that it will be the law abiding tax paying, rate paying local population that will fund this idiotic venture.
Until these idiots stop blaming "society" for everything and make individuals responcible for their actions the madness will just get worse.
What make your example especially wrong is that it will be the law abiding tax paying, rate paying local population that will fund this idiotic venture.
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I'm with you 100%. As sad as it is that someone so young should die like that but to have a park built in their honour, so to speak, just make me shake my head in disbelief. From your description it is not quite clear whether the idea is for young people to ride their motorbikes there and maybe kill themselves in 'controlled surroundings'.
Totally agree,to many parents not taking responsibility for their children.
To many latch key kids who are given what they want to keep the peace,its easier than saying no.
What kind of parent would allow a 15 yr old to ride a motorcycle
without somekind of supervision,after all he/she is still a child at 15yrs old.
To many latch key kids who are given what they want to keep the peace,its easier than saying no.
What kind of parent would allow a 15 yr old to ride a motorcycle
without somekind of supervision,after all he/she is still a child at 15yrs old.
I totally agree with you Lord B. It is similar to the five youngster killed whilst joy riding in a stolen Metro. The parents have claimed that their children were normal and well behaved and that the police were at fault in chasing them. What were these young children doing out after midnight and drinking alcohol in a cemetary prior to steeling the car. It is a case of my child is an angel and society is wrong. Unfortunately the innocent public have to foot the bill for any damage/injury caused. Again a case of PC gone too far and society should say enough is enough and let us get back to our basic roots with respect.
Emm
Actually the park is a good idea, not the naming of it, thats an idiots rambling.
Kids want to ride these bikes and will do whenever they get the chance. There is no provision for them to ride anywhere so by offering a place they can go you can also introduce them to safety, skills and responsibility. Many of us rode bikes as kids on waste land without fear of anything more than a thick ear. But we also knew we where in deep doodoo if we rode the bike back home on the roads or paths.
However, as for the accident, its the driver I feel sorry for.
The councilor is just out for votes!
Actually the park is a good idea, not the naming of it, thats an idiots rambling.
Kids want to ride these bikes and will do whenever they get the chance. There is no provision for them to ride anywhere so by offering a place they can go you can also introduce them to safety, skills and responsibility. Many of us rode bikes as kids on waste land without fear of anything more than a thick ear. But we also knew we where in deep doodoo if we rode the bike back home on the roads or paths.
However, as for the accident, its the driver I feel sorry for.
The councilor is just out for votes!
The police were chasing two kids in Paris. They tried to hide from the police but electrocuted themselves - the result was riots and a 61 year old murdered for trying to put out a fire in a waste bin. Why was the police chasing them? Why was they hiding? Nowhere have I seen those questions answered or even addressed. So now the police aren't supposed to give chase and catch criminals? What kind of world are we living in? As Colin said, it's never their innocent little Johnny, it is always someone elses fault. In the case of those kids at least they never got to the stage of killing some other innocent person whose fate was to be in the same location as those idiots.
I agree. but at 15 what was he doing being allowed to ride the bike in the first place. I feel for the parents loss, but did they not know he was doing this and where did he get the bike?
I agree whole heartedly with his Lordship. Having lost a child myself to a natural death some twenty years ago and we still can't forget about it, I do feel for the parents. ut to provide area's for what can be rightfully classed as dangeous sport without a proper first aid facility not only encourages more accidents but put's more undue strain on the emergencey services who have to bail people out.
I used to be a keen motorcyclist until a very bad accident at 21, which meant i had to learn to walk again.
I am a ROSPA trained car driver and enjoy like most the thrill of fast driving.
Having driven in my job some of the fastest cars around (lotus eilse, Jag XJR, Aston Martin DB9 etc)I can understand need for buzz, but doing it safely and in the right place is paramount.
Another thing that get's me these days, is the constant temporary memorials at accident sites. There's been one recently on the A44 just west of Worcester, a road I travel daily. I have taken the particular bend at well over 90Mph without straying over my own side of the road. (at the right time of day/night)But still some poor soul managed to kill themselves and now we see a senotaff of flowers on the tree.
Don't people think the distraction of the unusual sight could distract a "rubber necker"? and cause another accident!!
We grieve privately for our lost loved ones, and celebrate good news loud and proud. I might sound an "old fart", but traditional family values mean a lot to me.
I used to be a keen motorcyclist until a very bad accident at 21, which meant i had to learn to walk again.
I am a ROSPA trained car driver and enjoy like most the thrill of fast driving.
Having driven in my job some of the fastest cars around (lotus eilse, Jag XJR, Aston Martin DB9 etc)I can understand need for buzz, but doing it safely and in the right place is paramount.
Another thing that get's me these days, is the constant temporary memorials at accident sites. There's been one recently on the A44 just west of Worcester, a road I travel daily. I have taken the particular bend at well over 90Mph without straying over my own side of the road. (at the right time of day/night)But still some poor soul managed to kill themselves and now we see a senotaff of flowers on the tree.
Don't people think the distraction of the unusual sight could distract a "rubber necker"? and cause another accident!!
We grieve privately for our lost loved ones, and celebrate good news loud and proud. I might sound an "old fart", but traditional family values mean a lot to me.
In reply to Sparkes' posting the local authority in this district did have a track for off roading motor bikes. However they decided to close it in case of accidents and they would be sued. So much for modern day culture - where there's a blame there is a claim.
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