We are considering purchasing a Litle Devil space heater from Machine Mart to use in our awning in winter as the caravan is on a seasonal site. It is just the missus and myself and we would have it on ceramic tiles and only one while we are at the caravan. Has any one had any experience of using these? We have a twin axle so the awning area is quite large.
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Hi Ian
Do you mean the Little Devil Propane Fired Space Heater?. If so, I haven't any experience of using one of these but from a fire safety point of view, I'd like to comment below:
I would contact the manufacturer and ask if this heater is suitable for a caravan awning as I would have thought that it is more suitable for larger areas/permanent structures. A projection of heat of upto 10.25kW is substantial.
I would also ask the manufacturer how far the heat projects (travels) and what the temperature is likely to be at its destination (your awning wall). If the heat on impact with the awning is substantial, it could scorch the fabric, or damage it, or in the worse case, cause fire. It wouldn't be good to site it where it would be projecting over a ground sheet too.
I appreciate the heater will cut out in the event of overheating but personally, from a fire safety perspective, I would not use one of these in an awning.
Regards
Lisa
Do you mean the Little Devil Propane Fired Space Heater?. If so, I haven't any experience of using one of these but from a fire safety point of view, I'd like to comment below:
I would contact the manufacturer and ask if this heater is suitable for a caravan awning as I would have thought that it is more suitable for larger areas/permanent structures. A projection of heat of upto 10.25kW is substantial.
I would also ask the manufacturer how far the heat projects (travels) and what the temperature is likely to be at its destination (your awning wall). If the heat on impact with the awning is substantial, it could scorch the fabric, or damage it, or in the worse case, cause fire. It wouldn't be good to site it where it would be projecting over a ground sheet too.
I appreciate the heater will cut out in the event of overheating but personally, from a fire safety perspective, I would not use one of these in an awning.
Regards
Lisa
Hello Ian,
I am not familiar in detail with the heater you refer to, but if LMH's descriptin is correct then I have to agree with him - it is a potential fire hazard, not to mention the considerable gas usage that would ensue. - It is quite possible that Butane bottles would be totaly useless, and you wodl need an industrial sized propane regultaor to cope with the gas flow. These heaters also tend to make a considerable noise when runing
One of the biggest problems with heating air in what is basically a canvas tent, is that there are lots of holes where the hot air can escape, and the fact that canvas and nylon are not good heat insulators means that the heat easily escapes and is wasted.
Considering your need - to heat people in the awning - there is a possible alternatives, that may be simpler and much more effective. - Infra red- These heaters transmit heat via Infra red radiation. This travels in striaght lines, so to feel the heat you must be able to see the heater.
These heaters tend to be directional and as heat is only produced where the radiation strikes a surface so less will be lost.
There are several electric versions, in thier most recent for known as Quartz or halogen heaters, but there are some versions that use gas, but these are mcuh rarer and again for safety reasons may not be suitable for awnings or tents.
I am not familiar in detail with the heater you refer to, but if LMH's descriptin is correct then I have to agree with him - it is a potential fire hazard, not to mention the considerable gas usage that would ensue. - It is quite possible that Butane bottles would be totaly useless, and you wodl need an industrial sized propane regultaor to cope with the gas flow. These heaters also tend to make a considerable noise when runing
One of the biggest problems with heating air in what is basically a canvas tent, is that there are lots of holes where the hot air can escape, and the fact that canvas and nylon are not good heat insulators means that the heat easily escapes and is wasted.
Considering your need - to heat people in the awning - there is a possible alternatives, that may be simpler and much more effective. - Infra red- These heaters transmit heat via Infra red radiation. This travels in striaght lines, so to feel the heat you must be able to see the heater.
These heaters tend to be directional and as heat is only produced where the radiation strikes a surface so less will be lost.
There are several electric versions, in thier most recent for known as Quartz or halogen heaters, but there are some versions that use gas, but these are mcuh rarer and again for safety reasons may not be suitable for awnings or tents.
QUOTE: 'but if LMH's descriptin is correct then I have to agree with HIM'
I'm a girl!!!! I am in the Fire Service though!!
LISA (0): (smiley icon thingy)
I'm a girl!!!! I am in the Fire Service though!!
LISA (0): (smiley icon thingy)
Hello Lisa
Oops and big sorry.:-(
My excuse is that you can't see the difference when you have that Fire Fighters uniform on.!
Oops and big sorry.:-(
My excuse is that you can't see the difference when you have that Fire Fighters uniform on.!
The 'Little Devil' comes with a Propane regulator that gives a fixed output of 10KW, this is nearly 3X your vans fire on maximum!!
I use one in the workshop and I have replaced the fixed regulator with an adjustable one, there are limits to how low it can be turned down and this would still I'm afraid be to much for an awning.
The noise I think would be another problem as well as the amount of gas used, turned down I get about three weeks out of a 47kg bottle of Propane, their not suitable for use on Butane.
I use one in the workshop and I have replaced the fixed regulator with an adjustable one, there are limits to how low it can be turned down and this would still I'm afraid be to much for an awning.
The noise I think would be another problem as well as the amount of gas used, turned down I get about three weeks out of a 47kg bottle of Propane, their not suitable for use on Butane.
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