Sterilising Agent FOA Andy of Swift

[Heethers]

Andy maybe you can help.

l have seen on this forum that it is debatable to use milton to sterilise the water system after winterisation, according to the Ace owners hand book (page 155) it suggest you use milton to flush out the system, could you please clarify if this is so, if not what do Swift recommend.

If l remember correctly it was to do with milton attacking the truma heater which was made from Stainless Steel.

Regards

Nigel H

 

[12ottaleen]

Just bought Citroxx-Bio Water Sterilisation Solution,this seems to be the answer to cleaning the pipes & the stainless steel in the hot water heater has it is non toxic,also cleans the filter as it draws the treated water through the filter.

 

[SwiftGroup_374327846]

Hi Nigel,

Swift recommend the use of Milton to sterilise the water system as you state and have done so for many years.

Truma have not raised any concerns with us. I will now ask the question direct to clarify the situation,

Regards

Andy

 

[SwiftGroup_374327846]

Nigel,

We have spoken to Truma today they have confirmed they have no issues with us recommending Milton provided that it is not used neat.

Thanks

Andy

 

[ProfJohnL]

Hi Nigel,

If you use Milton make sure you follow the dilution and soak times on the bottle. Increasing either does not offer any significant improvement in the sterilising ability of the fluid, but it may start to react with metal fittings in the water system.

 

[Heethers]

Andy, thanks for your swift response (excuse the pun).

l have always let down the solution to what it state's on the instructions so l thought it would be fine and never thought it would be a problem.

What put doubt in my mind was a statement on this forum about milton could cause a problem.

Glad you have confirmed what was in your hand book that this product cant' cause a problem used correctly.

Andy, once again for a quick responce from Swift don't seem to see other manufacturer's on this forum responding as quick as you.

Nigel

 

[JTQ]

A very surprising response from Truma as it directly contravenes their Manual for my 2002 supplied Ultrastore.

http://www.truma.com/_anweisungen/Truma-Katalog/pdf_verzeichnis/70_000/70000_94600.pdf [page 2]

This states " Other products particularly those containing Chlorine are unsuitable".

Milton contains chlorine.

The comment "provided it is not used neat" is somewhat too casual for this normally responsible German company that it invites users to do untold damage to their Truma boilers.

 

[SwiftGroup_374327846]

JTQ,

As I said we have reconfirmed today with Truma they have no objections to our recommendations,

Andy

 

[xtrailman]

NGH

Yes i read that post, but dismissed it, i have used all manner of serilising agents, baby and brewers, and even domestos!

And never had a problem.

Good to see Swift can come back with a firm answer.

 

[JTQ]

JTQ,

As I said we have reconfirmed today with Truma they have no objections to our recommendations,

Andy

Andy,

As I said I am very surprised for two reasons;

one it's opposite to their published information,

and secondly I have quite an amount of experience of chlorine induced attack of stainless steel so fully understood why that comment was in their literature.

Also the casual comment about not using it neat is so incredibly unprofessional that I have to doubt the technical authority of the Truma individual who advised you. The normal tolerable level of chlorine for stainless is a mere 5ppm even for the best grades, thus you will understand my reaction to even the mention of neat Milton?

As I said with the unqualified guidance now on the table here users can do untold damage to their units and correct information is needed to avoid this. I suggest it must be made clear that if it is used it must be at very low concentration and for a very limited time. I am though not aware of Swift's detailed instructions and these may well be specific. cheers John

 

[Dustydog]

This thread has caused me concern as I have always used diluted Milton to clean out our water system. No problems.

According to the Truma web site it is recommended you use "Certisil Combina " or "Micropur Forte". The former is sold via Miriad Products who famously supply the sticking Hartal door locks,

In big red letters on the front of the bottle of the "Combina" it proudly boasts "WITH CHLORINE" !!

So as far as I am concerned if the continuing use of diluted Milton damages my Ultrastore , Truma will have to pay for a new one.

You just don't know who to believe anymore??????

Cheers

Dustydog

 

[cooky1]

I have been using Milton, diluted to the correct strength for over 20 years to sterilise the van water system and I have had no problems with any van or any of it's components.

Graeme.

 

[Heethers]

Graeme l did on my last van 6 year old Brightstar but when l purchased a new Firestar in October thought l had better get a response from Swift seeing as they recomend Milton.

l will carry on using it now too the manufactures instructions.

NigelH

 

[cooky1]

Thanks Nigel, it is nice to get a reply from a manufacturer, confirming that we have not been doing any damage over the last few years.

Graeme.