Storm Straps - are they really necessary???

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When we bought our caravan, we were newbies and in our starter pack came an extra large NR awning with free breathable carpet etc. My OH has now said we need to buy storm straps. Are these a necessity? Would you advise that we do purchase them. They won't break the bank at £20 but are they really necessary? We are hoping to put the awning to use next weekend to try it out. Thanks - Lisa.
 

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I'd advise you to buy storm straps if possible because your awning could lift over the roof of your caravan in windy weather if you don't have them. Both the awning and your caravan could be damaged if this happened so for the sake of £20 it's a case of better safe than sorry.
When you use them don't forget to put a twist in them to prevent a constant drumming sound from keeping you awake at night if the wind picks up and the straps vibrate.
Good luck with the awning, try not to kill each other when you argue about how it should go
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Great - thanks Parksy then OH can go ahead and purchase them. I will also pass on about the twist to avoid a drumming noise ... on our trip to Blackmore at Easter he snored so badly the first night that I told him if he did it again the next night, I would sell the caravan!!!! That, and nearly freezing to death hasn't put me off I hasten to add and no, he didn't snore the next night either.

Why do men insist they're not snoring when quite obviously they are?????????

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soldlisa04 said:
Why do men insist they're not snoring when quite obviously they are?????????

Cheers
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Lisa.

Mrs Chrisbee often "gently" wakes me up by the application of an elbow in the small of my back to tell me I'm snoring. No matter how hard I listen I've never heard it.
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I've never heard me snoring either
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I can't understand why you were freezing, we've been away in February and stayed toasty.
Does your heating work?
 
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Parksy - yes the heating worked but OH set it wrong (first time nerves me thinks) a mistake he'll never repeat again! It is the blown air heating system and I think he had it on half a kw instead of 2kw??? Anyway, it's all fine now!

As for not hearing yourselves snoring gentlemen ... perhaps your OH's should tape you and you might be surprised at what you sound like!!!! Loud I can assure you, LOUD
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There are storm straps and there are storm straps.

The ones that look like a seat belt and go over the awning on the outside are a total waste of space imo. They rub the awning fabric and don't do what you really want.

The real objective is to stop the awning / frame lifting off in a gale /storm.
I use two 18" large pegs well hammered in the ground, inside the awning, attached to webbed straps that locate over the front edge of the awning frame and hold it down.
See this
http://www.isabella.net/int/accessories/isabella-accessories-tubelightstorms.html

We've been in snow , storms, wild winds and never been worried. More importantly the stress is taken directly on the awning frame, not the outer layer canvas.
 
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We use the same but cheaper method.......
Four of these ratchet straps from Aldi or Lidl, two inside same as DD
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& if the wind start to get up two outside aswell
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We were on site last August & the wind was coming from the side it had picked up considerably, so I dropped the sides half way down to ease the pressure & let it blow strait through ...........
 
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That's it my Court Jester

Anything that holds the awning frame down will work.
Forget those throw over "seat belt" things.
 
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When I was a young lad, we took a caravan holiday on the south downs, not too far from Worthing. The wind was gusting up the hill side, and my father and elder brother decided they wanted to make a kite.

The dismantled the canvas toilet tent, and reconfigured it as a box kite. It took off with considerable force, so much that they decided to see if it would lift me! It did, but not very far.

The point being, it does not need a massive area of canvas in a wind to produce quite a lifting force. Now consider the size of an awning.

This point was ably demonstrated at a Scout camp Nr Southampton, where a troop wanted to move a mess tent, because the pouring rain had produced a rivulet running straight through it. The leader thought that if they unpegged it they could lift it and reposition it. It was un-pegged and it attempted to lift the 6 scouts holding it. They of course let go and it took off down the field ending in a pile of bent metal poles and ripped canvas. Fortunately no one was hurt.

Storm straps or lashing on an awning is a very good idea.
 
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Thanks all - have purchased the NR ones as we have an NR awning. Have also noted to twist the strap to avoid noise.

Of course women snore, I am not one of them though (although I have never taped myself!!) but I do have the occasional night terror which results in me shouting out and frightening the life out of my OH so I do have sympathy on both sides
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I have now bought some superduper ear plugs so as to hopefully avoid broken night' sleep next weekend should OH decide to snore (bless him).

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I can see that holding down the frame is a good idea, but how does that prevent the canvas lifting? Our canvas is not attached to the frame at all, except where the poles go through at three points, each capped with a small plastic rain cap. I notice that the most modern awnings have a built in 'storm-strap' with an extra strong bracket attached to the canvas on the outside at each end, and a ratcheted strap can be attached at this point and this obviously holds the canvas down. I would have thought that however much you hold the frame down, the canvas could still be lifted in a very high wind if there isn't something securing the canvas itself.
We only use a sun canopy in France, and that obviously has more tendency to lift and blow about - but now that we're using an awning again (and leaving it up for some time) we need to think more about storm protection.
 
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We have just used our new awning which came with storm straps, I gave in the second night and got up in the middle of the night and disconnected them the noise was driving me mad. i wish i had known about twisting them. The wife could'nt hear it as she wears earplugs as she accuses me of snoring a little. All we need to cure now is the canopy on the front of the awning flapping.
 
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Val A. said:
I can see that holding down the frame is a good idea, but how does that prevent the canvas lifting?
Our awning is fitted with this type of system it's like having a double bead one goes into the rail & the clamps attach to the other bead & when the roof is tensioned it does not flap or lift ........
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Oh dear no storm straps deployed
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Read this post by Lord Brakewynde and you will see why storm straps are necessary.
http://www.practicalcaravan.com/forum/uk-parks-touring/new-england-bay-0
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Cheers all - storm straps are ordered and we had a dry run (literally as we managed to avoid any rain which in itself was a miracle) on Sat and erected the full awning. I'm impressed - it's huge! We have a neighbour who is an experienced vanner and my OH used to camp so it didn't take long to put up. I am sure that we will make every effort for it to be secured as I don't want it to end up like the picture above!!!! Can't wait now for our week away at half term to put the full awning to use. Lisa.
 
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Blimey, pity we didn't have storm straps for our porch awning last weekend when we were at Riverside, S on A - it was horrendous. Got the awning down with minimum damage, some plastic round fittings had broken, but we've replaced those with metal ones and OH sat and sewed new tape that had ripped off onto the awning last night which was no mean feat. Bless him! Fingers crossed the weather improves eh????
 
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hi Lisa, we have one of those long thow over straps for the main awning which can be used on the porch if required when shortend, I also carry a couple of rachet straps in the car (for the roof rack) these can also be used inside the awnings attached to the corner poles if the wind is really bad, I anchor them to the ground with a couple of screw type dog spikes that we keep in the front locker from when we had a dog and work very well to keep things secure, worsed winds encountered was a ardmere point in the highlands with winds gusting to force 9 there were only 3 awnings left standing after 3 days of gales our was one of them although I put the car windside that helped a bit.
 
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Good idea Colin, OH reads these posts in the evening ... that makes sense to use one on porch awning. Although, I did say I'd never go away again if high winds were forecast!
 
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Val, What holds the canvas down are the pegs - simples
Seriously I always use rock pegs (Caravan club used to sell a good long one) In many years and in many weathers have never needed anything else but have always bought Isabella awnings.
 
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I too use a couple of B&Q ratchet straps from the inside of the outer poles down to some 12 inch steel pegs. If things look really bad the Isabella awning has secondary fixings all around the outside about 12-15in above the base. You just loop guy rope through these loosely and attach it to rock pegs and it forms a series of zigzags between attachment and pegs which virtually doubles your number of pegs. However if the forecast looks like I need both types of restraint it will be the awning which hold the caravan down!!
 
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All duly noted thanks - will get OH to purchase some of the ratchet straps as I always think that being prepared is much better (prevention better than cure etc.). Cheers.
 
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Hi Val
The Izzy uses the system shown in Sir Sproket's post. Also the frame upright poles are fixed to straps at the bottom of the canvas. My Capri Lux has 5 uprights which hold the canvas. Good strong pegs then secure our canvas to the ground. So securing the frame internally with storm lashings works well.

Years ago I used the same system Colin describes and it rubbed right through the canvas one windy night.

Most of the collapsed awnings I have seen have been as a result of inadequate pegging.
 

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