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Well the Esso garage where i live use to have Tesco Clubcard points but they don"t now they have Nectar Card only because i like to use on Ebay
 
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Many year ago in Wales I filled up with BP super diesel by mistake , at time it was quite a few pence more that standard. Our journey from there was about 200 miles in which the motor seemed to be running much smoother. Which later on I started filling up with BP. Then we were running low on the M6 and I was not going to pay motorway prices so let my Snooper take me to ,Morrisons . Filled up and after quite a few miles noticed there were no difference to the BP. My garage which is JET now gets my custom or Tesco if I am there
 
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I remember having this debate probably around 20 years ago with one of my old managers, she was very anti supermarket fuel. Said it was full of muck did your car no gooe!

But I've never had issues with it Sainsbury's nearest to home, and I've never noticed any difference when I've been away and used a branded garage (and believe me back a long, I used to know exactly how many miles I got out of my fuel tank)

I debated getting a diesel, but wanting a hybrid the option wasn't there, hybrids are petrol only... So yep it gives a slight limitations in tow weight, not quite as high as one would imagine, and the tow bar weight of 70kg is a bit of a challenge. But heck it does well enough.

My old Freelander I used to spend about £45 a week on petrol (commute to work). I have now reduced that cost down to about a £5... When I came home from holiday in Star Cross, I hadn't been able to give the batteries a full charge, so filled the tank up expecting to use a lot, I was amazed when I got home to find I'd hardly used any at all, PC reckoned they worked out towing with out a fully charged battery reduced to towing mph to 24 miles per gallon, I sure that I got a lot more than that.
 
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I remember having this debate probably around 20 years ago with one of my old managers, she was very anti supermarket fuel. Said it was full of muck did your car no gooe!

But I've never had issues with it Sainsbury's nearest to home, and I've never noticed any difference when I've been away and used a branded garage (and believe me back a long, I used to know exactly how many miles I got out of my fuel tank)

I debated getting a diesel, but wanting a hybrid the option wasn't there, hybrids are petrol only... So yep it gives a slight limitations in tow weight, not quite as high as one would imagine, and the tow bar weight of 70kg is a bit of a challenge. But heck it does well enough.

My old Freelander I used to spend about £45 a week on petrol (commute to work). I have now reduced that cost down to about a £5... When I came home from holiday in Star Cross, I hadn't been able to give the batteries a full charge, so filled the tank up expecting to use a lot, I was amazed when I got home to find I'd hardly used any at all, PC reckoned they worked out towing with out a fully charged battery reduced to towing mph to 24 miles per gallon, I sure that I got a lot more than that.
That’s interesting, what is your car, Outlander?
 
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I only use Tesco most of the time, or anyfuel handy on holiday.
Never had a DPD or EGR issue dispite doing less than 7K MILES a year.

And I'm on DPD car number 4.

Got nearly 50mpg today driving from Sheffield to Newcastle with the CC set to 73mph or 52mph depending on the speed limit.
What's not to like about cheap fuel.
 
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It would be interesting to observe at the refinery gate and see what logos were on the tankers leaving.. How many refineries are there in UK - I can't think that supermarkets suppliers their own unique suppliers?
Incidentally I had thought to try towing in my Tucson on the 'sport' mode to see if it made any difference.
The greatest influence on mpg is surely the attachment to your right leg.. as I check each tankful for mpg I know that my son's right foot is much less economical than mine! LOL!
 
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It would be interesting to observe at the refinery gate and see what logos were on the tankers leaving.. How many refineries are there in UK - I can't think that supermarkets suppliers their own unique suppliers?
Incidentally I had thought to try towing in my Tucson on the 'sport' mode to see if it made any difference.
The greatest influence on mpg is surely the attachment to your right leg.. as I check each tankful for mpg I know that my son's right foot is much less economical than mine! LOL!
This topic crops up periodically and I posted some technical papers. You are correct in that refineries and local distribution depots serve a number of outlet brands. But additive dosing is specific to each brand and type of fuel. So just looking at anonymous tankers doesn’t give any idea who they deliver too. But in our area the major branded fuels do have branded tankers delivering to them.

https://www.simplemotoring.co.uk/supermarket-vs-branded-fuels/
 
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It would be interesting to observe at the refinery gate and see what logos were on the tankers leaving.. How many refineries are there in UK - I can't think that supermarkets suppliers their own unique suppliers?
Incidentally I had thought to try towing in my Tucson on the 'sport' mode to see if it made any difference.
The greatest influence on mpg is surely the attachment to your right leg.. as I check each tankful for mpg I know that my son's right foot is much less economical than mine! LOL!
Most road fuel leaves the refineries and importation points by underground pipeline where it's transferred to regional distribution centres where the road tankers refill - refineries only supply a small local area directly by tanker.
 
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Same here, the Pajero was a grey import and the Shogun was the UK version. It would pull a house down and was super reliable but the fuel economy was atrocious.
The Sorento pulls the caravan just as well but it's smoother and much more economical.
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When we towed the caravan to St Ives with the Pajero the standing joke was that it would have been cheaper to fly down there 😁
Oh dear, currently looking at getting a Shoggy: going to see one Saturday 3.2 D-ID LWB - now older 2004 model but sensible miles and v good history. Working on lower purchase price (saving due to age) & hopfully reliability factor offsetting fuel costs- wont be doing high mileages...... have always liked the look / reputation of them!
 
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We had a Peugeot 3008 1.6tdi and had two injectors fail in 40k Miles, we were strongly advised to move to branded fuel as the dealers said the injectors we're very susceptible to damage. After that we had no issues for the next 30k when we sold it

Currently running the Outlander on Sainsbury's diesel with no issues so far at 45k miles, mainly because the nearest branded fuel is a 15 mile drive away.
 
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Oh dear, currently looking at getting a Shoggy: going to see one Saturday 3.2 D-ID LWB - now older 2004 model but sensible miles and v good history. Working on lower purchase price (saving due to age) & hopfully reliability factor offsetting fuel costs- wont be doing high mileages...... have always liked the look / reputation of them!
As you say if the annual mileage isn’t that high fuel is a small percentage of your motoring and caravanning outlay. I enjoyed my 1995 SWB Pajero and all of its systems were still in working order when I sold it aged 20 years, even its ACC and with our off roading trips it hadn’t led an easy life either. Great cars, enjoy.
 
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Oh dear, currently looking at getting a Shoggy: going to see one Saturday 3.2 D-ID LWB - now older 2004 model but sensible miles and v good history. Working on lower purchase price (saving due to age) & hopfully reliability factor offsetting fuel costs- wont be doing high mileages...... have always liked the look / reputation of them!
If you are happy with 17mpg when towing, 24mpg around town and 28mph when solo on a motorway then i am sure you will enjoy the Shogun. Before we purchased ours we had it checked over by a Mitsubishi technician and all clear except for air con pipe and it took over 3 months for the part to arrive. Now that they are puling out of the UK market there will be plenty of late models bargains to be had but spares may be an issue.
Priot to the Shogun we had a 2005/6 Jeep Grand Cherokee which came with a full service history. It was reliable with 23mpg when towing, 29mpg around town and +32mpg solo on the motorway. We took a hit and traded in the Shogun after 3 months for another Jeep Grand Cherokee.
 
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Thanks for posting that pic Otherclive, I used to have a SWB Pajero just like that one...lovely car but it started to get old...also when I gave my Mum a lift anywhere she struggled to climb up into it, and Mrs Gozza refused to drive an auto, so when the brakes started to need major work, I traded it in rather than pay to repair. I wanted an L200 but Mrs Gozza gave me "that look" so I got a Jeep instead.

As for the name, I'm told Mitsubishi called it the Pajero because it means "Panther" in south american Spanish, but couldn't work out why it wasn't selling in Europe...until they discovered the word means something else there! I'd wondered if that was urban myth but from the comments above, maybe not.

As for the original question, there's a garage near me that usually beats supermarkets and all the other garages on price so I usually fill up there. Although if I'm on the far side of town, Costco diesel is so much cheaper than everyone else that it's worth filling up there even if I don't really need it.
 
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Thanks for posting that pic Otherclive, I used to have a SWB Pajero just like that one...lovely car but it started to get old...also when I gave my Mum a lift anywhere she struggled to climb up into it, and Mrs Gozza refused to drive an auto, so when the brakes started to need major work, I traded it in rather than pay to repair. I wanted an L200 but Mrs Gozza gave me "that look" so I got a Jeep instead.

As for the name, I'm told Mitsubishi called it the Pajero because it means "Panther" in south american Spanish, but couldn't work out why it wasn't selling in Europe...until they discovered the word means something else there! I'd wondered if that was urban myth but from the comments above, maybe not.

As for the original question, there's a garage near me that usually beats supermarkets and all the other garages on price so I usually fill up there. Although if I'm on the far side of town, Costco diesel is so much cheaper than everyone else that it's worth filling up there even if I don't really need it.

I know what you mean about the height. I fitted mine with Peder an Australian specialist suspension kit. It regained 12mm where the old OEM springs had sagged. Then added another 35 mm of rear lift and I then had to wind the front torsion bars up some to get rid of the distinct nose down attitude. The final straw for my 5ft 2 inch wife was when the 33 inch BFG M/T tyres replaced the stock tyres. To get in she had to climb onto the side rock sliders and haul herself up with the grab handles. But she enjoyed driving it too.
 

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