There are rules, and there are rules........

[Danny_5134221]

Have not posted for quite some time now I have been away on special operations.

Looking on tonight and I see the same old thing about ball games is still about and people banging on about rules etc and dents in the caravan, kids running havoc blah, blah.

Well what about the rule on every campsite, the one where you drive in the gate, the one that states the speed limit on site. Still people drive through the site well above the limit, kids are playing, dogs walking their owners and people milling about minding their own buisiness.

We were away last weekend and cars drove about the site at speeds that if they hit an adult it would probably kill them let alone a child.

So, no speeding means no speeding, you can easily get a dent repaired but your head or legs takes a bit longer.

 

[Guest]

Most CC sites nowadays enforce the 10 mph limit pretty rigidly. I have myself been pulled up for doing a small bit above that on one of their sites. My excuse? None really, but it was downhill. Unfortunately many speedometers do not register 10 mph so drivers keep putting the foot down till something happens, usually around 25 mph.

 

[Chaps]

Here, here Danny.

Before we bought our tourer last year, we have spent many holidays in Static Caravans and lodges, mainly booked through Hoseasons as we find them a bit more 'Countryfied' than some of the other operators i.e. bit quieter, nicer surroundings and - sorry this will sound like we're snobs but we're not! - a better class of holidaymaker. The speed limits on most of these parks may as well not have been there as we never saw it enforced and we have always found that the Park staff have been the worst speeding culprits. On a few occasions there has been building works going on whilst we were there and the contractors were even worse!

We hope that site owners will take notice and start to enforce the limits. We read in the CC magazine about a little boy who was tragically killed when he was knocked down on a CC Site - don't think that the motorist was speeding but it will no doubt live with him forever. Our thoughts are with all concerned.

 

[RichardS1]

After the tragic accident last year at Rowntree park the CC now have a 5mph limit.

 

[JasonR_374341560]

No idea what camp site speeds are most of the time.

General camp site walking pace seems the sensible maximum, and that's what we do.

 

[BeemerMal]

Some people think the speed limits and direction signs on camp sites are only meant for motorist to comply with. I know a vehicle can cause a lot of damage but how many times do we see cyclists cutting across pitches, cycling against the one way direction signs on site roads and many travel much faster than the site speed limit permits?

And, before anyone starts; my comments are not specifically addressed at unsupervised children, many adults don't follow the rules and they should know better! And, if they do it what chance is there for children to learn and understand the reasoning, when they see adults flouting the rules?

 

[BeemerMal]

To add to the above...what about the wardens, they regularly disregard site direction signs with their tractors and mowers. How on earth can they police visitors when they do it?

 

[S-MaxJon]

I was under the impression that speed should be at walking pace on sites.

I was knocked over when I was 5 on a caravan site in Scarboro' and had my leg broken by a speeding motorist.My dad can still recall to this day my cries and screams and it was 35 years ago.

My dad took him to court for dangerous driving and won.

Got my first car with the compensation - a lovely Mk2 escort !!

 

[JeremyClarksson]

10 mph might be a suitable limit for clear open site roads away from pitches and play areas but 5 mph is plenty fast enough when you are among the pitches - remember that is a fast walking pace, most people could not run at 10 mph for more then a few seconds.

Anything above 10 mph would be ridiculous and would deserve being asked to leave site.

I did get shouted at once to slow down but the reason mystified me as it was an open area and I was doing a normal walking pace of around 3-4mph.

There can be a problem with perception sometimes, I remember someone saying they saw someone doing 30-40 mph around a site and I can not see that as possible unless the driver actually wanted to kill someone.

 

[Lord Braykewynde]

Usually you will find the speedsters are those who have cruised around the site looking for a decent pitch then when back to the beginning stick their boot down to get to the pitch they like best before anyone else beats them to it ... hehheh!

 

[GeorgeB]

Danny,

Ah, you've noticed there are rules & there are rules!

The problem is that whilst most of us stick to the rules, because we know that they're there for the benefit of all of us, BUT there is the small minority who seem to think that the rules don't aply to them, and it's them that spoil it for the rest of us.

What we need is concerted action by the powers that be, to let them who don't abide by the rules know that they are not welcome, & if the powers that be can't or won't do anything about it, then it' up to us to do something about it.

Whilst I'm not advocating direct action, there comes a time when it's the only choice. It's time we all made a stand against the small anti social minority who spoil our enjoyment!

Rant over!

 

[TrevorM]

Although sites may have maximum speed limits set, I suspect most people do not feel the need to check their speedometers, but merely drive at what they consider to be a safe speed (although a few people's opinions of what is a safe speed may be questionable.)

Scotch Lad has already hinted that some speedometers do not register anything until the vehicle is travelling faster than 5mph. I do not think my car will 'roll' at 5mph without slipping the clutch, and I would not want to do this for too long with the 'van behind. I therefore do as I suspect most people do, which is to choose a sensible safe speed, when negotiating site roads.

Enjoy your holidays,

Trevor M

 

[TrevorM]

Although sites may have maximum speed limits set, I suspect most people do not feel the need to check their speedometers, but merely drive at what they consider to be a safe speed (although a few people's opinions of what is a safe speed may be questionable.)

Scotch Lad has already hinted that some speedometers do not register anything until the vehicle is travelling faster than 5mph. I do not think my car will 'roll' at 5mph without slipping the clutch, and I would not want to do this for too long with the 'van behind. I therefore do as I suspect most people do, which is to choose a sensible safe speed, when negotiating site roads.

Enjoy your holidays,

Trevor M

 

[Damian]

My car and van combination will walk along at 4MPH with my foot off the accelerator if I wish it to, the beauty of diesel!!

 

[JasonR_374341560]

Who cares about rules and speed limits.

Moving vehicles and adults and children wandering around chatting and playing are not a good combination.

Anyone that think's driving on a camp site at any more speed than walking pace without using the eyes in their back sides as well as normal eagle eyed all round surveying is a brain dead moron.

Just go very bloo'y slow and then we'll all be safe!

 

[Stephen_374341239]

Speedometer do not register at slow speeds.

So that means it must be slow dont you think???

If any one out there connot judge a walking pace and control the car you are driving. ITS TIME YOU GIVE UP DRIVING BEFORE YOU KILL SOMEONE.

 

[BrianStAlbans]

It makes me laugh that there are some who think their cars will not drive at 5 mph.

How do they cope in traffic? Sit and wait for the car in front to be far enough away so they can accelerate to catch it up again.

You're right Stephen ,maybe some re-tests are in order ;O)

 

[Steve L]

I quite agree Danny.

Rules on campsites are there not to be regimented, but to assist all of us to behave with due consideration for all on site with regard to the health and safety of everyone.

Most people would drive at what we call walking pace which is about 3 to 5mph. Anything faster on grass or gravel would be unsafe as if you had to stop quickly it would be difficult to do so.

Steve L.

 

[Guest]

Don't want to get technical, because I would not know the answers, but somewher in the dim and distant past I remember being told at a Scout meeting that the average man can walk 8 miles in 1 hour. So walking pace is about 8-10 mph.

However, the 100 meters can be completed in under 10 seconds which equates to about 38 mph. So if your are an Olympic sprinter then you can get to that good pitch in half the time it takes to drive.

As I am neither an Olympic sprinter, nor even a particularly fit person I usually allow the automatic gearbox to creep without using the acelerator. Usually works just fione. However, I do agree that many people cannot either read a speedometer, or even a roadsign. Bet they are all non-members and should be tarred and feathered before being run off. They are usually the ones with lots of kids, maybe they have enough to spare if they lose one in an accident??? OOH, being bitchy again.

 

[MalcolmL]

No way does the average man walk at 8mph. It is much more like 3mph, possibly 4mph.

I guess Scotch Lad doesn't do much walking!

 

[Richard_374343961]

Also not wanting to undermine your mathematic ability but 100m's in 10 secs equates to 22.5 mph.

Remember it being said once that the fastest humans can just about break the 20mph barrier.

 

[JasonR_374341560]

I've never noted any speed walkers on camp sites.

Most are wandering aimlessly clearing there heads from the night befores wine, old ladies exchanging grandchildren tales or others trundling aqauarolls or staggering along with waste water carriers.

8 mph Walkers, I think not.

 

[BrianStAlbans]

Moans per hour YES , miles NO

 

[Lord Braykewynde]

So is that written in stone Brian? 8 moans per hour?

If so can I quote your figures to Her Ladyship please?

 

[GeorgeB]

Lord B,

My lord, may I humbly suggest you try "selective listening" it works like this; at random intervals during your Ladyship's ramblings you nod your head, at equally random intervals you say "yes dear" and again, using equally random intervals, you intersperse the one sided conversation with "you don't say dear" or the devastating conversation stopper "what a good idea, that sounds feasable dear, I'll look into that"

It's worked for me for over 36 years of marriage, & I've survived unscathed (relatively!), so my Lord it might, just might, work for you as well! however, I offer no guarantee as to it's effectiveness with her Ladyship.

I remain your lordship, etc.etc.