Top decorating tips

[otherclive]

Don’t glue vinyl paper down with No Nails if you plan on redecorating again. Two, wear gloves when sanding down the walls as your fingerprint id devices won’t work due to lack of skin!

 

[Beehpee]

Good tips there but the best tip I ever had was get someone in to do the decorating it gives you someone to blame when/if it goes pear shaped.

BP

 

[Craigyoung]

I was going to put a wise crack on the other day and say avoid at all costs but I'm actually painting the kitchen today and dining room with the French doors open , Smooth FM on the radio and I'm quite chilled out just plodding on & it looks quite nice & cleaner .

 

[Thingy]

When I was much younger and just married, and utterly garbage at decorating, a friend gave me a fabulous tool and it always gets the job done, it was a 10p piece, so I could get somebody in that knew what they were doing. Its a mantra that still holds for me today.

 

[tuffty]

Before spending a weekend painting a room, check with the The Boss that yes, that really, really is the colour she wants.

 

[Thingy]

Before spending a weekend painting a room, check with the The Boss that yes, that really, really is the colour she wants.

Aye, but thats only good for this week, next week it will be something different. Tell her you are ordering tartan paint.

 

[otherclive]

Having little else to do as the three generations of gentle folk are holidaying in Majorca, so I decided to plod on with the decorating rather than taking three spaniels out for walkies. Not a good decision on my part. Trying to choose a paint from the Dulux range is now quite bizarre. There was a time when gloss, eggshell or even satinwood would be okay for radiators, now the website specifically excludes them for use on heated surfaces, other than from a quite limited colour palette of a limited type of paint too. And I really don't want to do the hall, stairs and landing with Hammerite rad paint from Dulux.

If its got this complex it is now no wonder that the younger generations are eschewing DIY.

PS Edit. Looking at an old tin of Dulux Satinwood water based quick dry it shows a radiator on the tine. Yet now the website excludes suitability for heated surfaces. That paint has been on the bathroom radiator for at least five years and its a very hot one as it its the "safety dump" for the boiler so no thermostat valve on it. I suspect the exclusions are for environmental reasons. Complaint has gone in to Dulux, which at least makes me feel better.

 

[Dustydog]

That’s most odd Clive,
I have used Dulux Trade Satinwood, colour mixed to our choice for years with no deterioration problems at all, nor smells . Please let us know what response you get

 

[Anseo]

Having worked with many paintingdecorator contractors (work related), I have come across a recurring response from said contractors, "standard gloss pain is gloss paint whether for radiators or not, its just gloss paint".

I agree with the opinions of the contractors as I have not established any difference in so called radiator paints and standard gloss paint.

I would not apply the same evaluation to 'extreme high temperature paints' where I do acknowledge that their is a difference in the products available.

But as usual it is your choice at the end of the decision making day .

 

[otherclive]

Dusty
I will update you on Dulux’s reply. Looking at a few websites others have been similarly non plussed but have painted in regardless with eggshell or satinwood with no detrimental effects.
This all cane about as we are thinking of moving and Mrs OC decided the old redundant telephone cable stapled to the hall skirting should be whipped out. Which she did. It left lots of little holes and showed where the top of the skirting had not been coated in paint. My suggestion of just stapling some new (clean) cable back on wasn’t approved. It would have been perfectly satisfactory form an aesthetic point of view and could have given any new owners a puzzle as to what the cable actually did

 

[Parksy]

Having worked with many paintingdecorator contractors (work related), I have come across a recurring response from said contractors, "standard gloss pain is gloss paint whether for radiators or not, its just gloss paint".

I agree with the opinions of the contractors as I have not established any difference in so called radiator paints and standard gloss paint.

I would not apply the same evaluation to 'extreme high temperature paints' where I do acknowledge that their is a difference in the products available.

But as usual it is your choice at the end of the decision making day .

I agree, when I gave up HGV driving because of heart problems I reverted to my previous employment as a decorator. My partner in our venture, who was once a time served apprentice, with myself (who had learned through experience and owned our van) became listed Dulux Approved decorators and we were sometimes called upon to do rectification work for them plus fire / flood damage insurance jobs.
With correct surface preparation including the correct undercoat, top coat gloss / satin paint is suitable for almost any metal or wood surface.
The 'Kitchen' / 'Bathroom' / 'Suitable for Children or Gerbils' derivatives are in my opinion marketing strategies designed to persuade the average D-I-Y buyer to part with more money, although some of them offer varying finishes and colourways.
I never used specialised high temperature paints on domestic radiators, the most popular at the time was Dulux brilliant white trade gloss.

 

[otherclive]

Having worked with many paintingdecorator contractors (work related), I have come across a recurring response from said contractors, "standard gloss pain is gloss paint whether for radiators or not, its just gloss paint".

I agree with the opinions of the contractors as I have not established any difference in so called radiator paints and standard gloss paint.

I would not apply the same evaluation to 'extreme high temperature paints' where I do acknowledge that their is a difference in the products available.

But as usual it is your choice at the end of the decision making day .

Totally agree with you but my main grouse with Dulux website is that so
many finishes now exclude from elevated temperature use. What’s changed as I’ve used gloss, satinwood and eggshell for years with no problems. So this time it’s going to be one of those anyway.

 

[otherclive]

Thought that this reply from Dulux might be of interest as it details the differences between trade finishes and the finishes which are predominately used by Joe Public. As we don’t hang moist stuff on radiators it goes some way to show how ordinary non trade eggshell and satinwood/sheen have been durable in our house.

Hi Clive,

Please accept my apologies for my misunderstanding; the ChatBot is still in its late Beta stages so doesn’t always pull things through correctly.

The main reason we do not recommend our water based trim products (i.e. Gloss, Satinwood and Eggshells) is because they have the potential to revert back to a tacky state when exposed to both heat and moisture. Radiators that are used to dry washing or in bathrooms are most prone to this.
The paint will cure again once dry, however it is vulnerable to scratching and marking when it is tacky and the paint film can become weakened over time if exposed regularly enough.

We do have solvent based paints that can be mixed in our Dulux Trade range and these are resistant to both heat and moisture so will not experience the same issues. Our Dulux Trade Satinwood and Eggshell is available from most Trade stores including C Brewers & Sons, Dulux Decorator Centres, Jewsons and Travis Perkins, and can be mixed into Caramel Latte for you in store. These will not be as low in VOCs as our water based trim products.

You can find your nearest trade stockist using the link below:

 

[camel]

When I first got married I was fortunate enough to be in a position to arrange a mortgage not like the young folk today who struggle for the deposit, the house we bought was of an Italian who was in fact a friend of my Dads, the Italian guy worked in Paper mill and had access to the wallpaper that was pulped up again to make paper, in this terraced house we bought it had sixteen layers of wallpaper in the down stairs rooms and it was just like a sheet of plywood, when I went back to see the chap he said he had to keep putting layers of wallpaper on to hide the rising damp, needless to say he was a very good at hanging wallpaper,