Tow Car for Wyoming

Aug 4, 2007
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We are looking to upgrade to the new Series 6 Wyoming, presently have a Moselle and tow with a Peugot 307sw. Hubby wants to fet rid of my 320d BMW for a suitable vehicle for towing the Wyoming. I'm loathe to give us my lovely car to drive a monster 4 x 4 just because we need it for the caravan. Can anyone give me an idea of any car that will tow the Wyoming or a reasonable size 4x4, everything we've looked at is so huge.

Jackie
 
Dec 23, 2006
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Jackie,

We had a 2004 Wyoming for 3 years and exchanged it for a new Conqueror in January of this year. We towed our Wyoming with first a short wheelbase Shogun and then a long wheelbase Shogun. My wife tows the outfit without any problem. The new Wyoming is about 100kgs heavier than the one we had. If you want a large heavy twin axle caravan then you need a large vehicle to tow it.

A short wheelbase Shogun is compact and an easy 4x4 to drive, excellent for towing a Wyomung in all weather conditions, ours have all been autos, good all round vision. Borrow one for a day.

Hamer
 
Jul 26, 2005
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Jackie,

I endorse everything said by Hamer - the Shogun SWB is not a monster and has adequate power and weight for the Wyoming. My wife would never drive our old LWB Trooper but loves the Shogun - it is quite carlike to drive plus of course you have the elevated position.

As has been said often before, a large twin wheeler plus towcar can go to almost 50 feet on the road, which can bring obvious disadvantages! Any length you can clip off by using a SWB 4x4 can mean getting into sites that would be closed to you with a "monster"
 
Mar 14, 2005
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Alternatively have a look at the Sorento. Like the SWB Shogun the Sorento is no longer than a family saloon car. Cheaper to purchase than most others with great reliability, and a fantastic towcar.
 
Feb 15, 2006
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hiya, im great with towing figures but what about an mpv?.

something like a kia sedona, seat alhambra, vw sharan, ford galaxy. someone would have to work the figures out as i said im not great with that sort of thing.

we have the new sedona and its a fantastic unbeliveable tow car and we wouldnt go back to a 4 x 4 after having 2 i would now stick to a mpv.

good luck

jo-anne
 
Feb 15, 2006
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hiya, im great with towing figures but what about an mpv?.

something like a kia sedona, seat alhambra, vw sharan, ford galaxy. someone would have to work the figures out as i said im not great with that sort of thing.

we have the new sedona and its a fantastic unbeliveable tow car and we wouldnt go back to a 4 x 4 after having 2 i would now stick to a mpv.

good luck

jo-anne
meant to say im NOT GREAT with figures
 
Mar 14, 2005
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Greetings Jackie,

I have just been on the Bailey site and they give a MTPLM of 1678kgs.

That would rule out 99% of cars on weight grounds alone.

You're very much in 4x4 territory
 
May 31, 2007
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Hi,

You don't say what it is about 4x4's that puts you off getting one, all I can say is that I would hate to go back to a 'ordinary' car after my Shogun. It's fantastic to tow with, easy to drive, and surprisingly it isn't really much longer than a 'ordinary' car.

Mine is a LWB shogun, but it's only a few inches longer than the Zafira I was parked next to in the car park the other day, and I know for a fact it is SHORTER than my old Scorpio estate. I think 4x4's seem bigger only because they are much taller than other cars, which can be a problem in some car parks, but only occasionally.

George
 
Apr 5, 2005
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meant to say im NOT GREAT with figures
Hi jo-anne,

So pleased to hear your happy with the Sedona as I am with mine. It's a far more stable and comfortable tow vehicle than the Toyota SURF I used to have, and as I'm now a Grandad tremendously versatile.

Colin - Orpington
 
Apr 20, 2007
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Hi, I tow a Wyoming with a Sorento and it is great. You hardly know it is there. If you buy a second hand 2.5 diesal they are very resonable.

David
 
Jun 28, 2007
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Hi Jackie

why dont you check something like the Parkers website for vehicle sizes.

Your 307 SW is about 16inchs shorter than an Landrover Discovery which incidently is shorter by about 15mm than the new mondeo saloon.

As said there are some 'large' 4x4 that are surprisingly shorter than you think. My wifes Freelnader is way shorter than a Vectra I used to have and my ML270 is only 4 inchs longer than the Freebie.
 
Aug 4, 2007
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Thanks for all your comments,hubby and I have taken note.

My problem with the 4x4 is not mainly size but fuel consumption and impact on environment. Although I drive a 320d BMW is CO2 emissions are very good. It means I would be driving it 52 weeks of the year for maybe 4 or 5 weeks holiday.

How do you find the Shogun SWB on fuel economy. I have looked on the Shogun site but to be honest the figures for mpg are probably as questionable as those on BMW compared to what I actually achieve in mine, which is, I have to say very good.

Jackie
 
Aug 4, 2007
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Thanks for all your comments,hubby and I have taken note.

My problem with the 4x4 is not mainly size but fuel consumption and impact on environment. Although I drive a 320d BMW is CO2 emissions are very good. It means I would be driving it 52 weeks of the year for maybe 4 or 5 weeks holiday.

How do you find the Shogun SWB on fuel economy. I have looked on the Shogun site but to be honest the figures for mpg are probably as questionable as those on BMW compared to what I actually achieve in mine, which is, I have to say very good.

Jackie
Sorry forgot to ask I only seem to be able to find 3.2 size engine in new Shogun SWB, where for older models I'm sure I found 2.5, have they stopped making the 2.5?
 
Jul 16, 2007
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Jackie

keep the beemer and sell hubby's car :)

We have best of both worlds, BMW 320d Touring and Kia Sorento. Our van is a fair bit lighter than the Wyoming - Burgundy, so both pull excellently.

Regards

Ken
 
Jul 26, 2005
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Hi again Jackie,

My Shogun is the 3.5 petrol and does about 25 mpg average and 20 towing - the diesel is probably a litle better but the higher price of derv in UK plus the shorter service interval for a diesel keeps things more even in actual costs.

I am retired and we are by no means wealthy and could not contemplate running a Shogun as a daily driver - it is just a towcar and dog transport.

Whichever way you manage it, a Wyoming is a heavyweight van and you need a large tug to pull it, around 2tonnes kerbweight is ideal, and that kind of vehicle is going to use a lot of fuel.

Lots of people on this site claim fantastic economy figures for their "pet" vehicles but frankly after towing stuff for many years in a variety of vehicles I am sceptical - you just don't get owt for nowt! Overload an ordinary vehicle with a van and watch the fuel consumption plummet and wear the car out too or use a large powerful vehicle and see hardly any difference in fuel or any other cost and know for sure it will do the job properly.
 
Dec 23, 2006
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Jackie,

The only Shogun with a 2.5 diesel is the Shogun Sport. The same diesel engine is now in both the short wheelbase and the long whelbase. I have towed a Wyoming with both swb and lwb. the fuel consumption, full tank to full tank , is 29-31 solo and 20-22 towing. My wife and I both tow and get the same Mpg.

If you are so concerned about the environment you will probably be better off with asmaller caravan and car not 4x4. Large twin axles require large vehicles to tow them.

Hamer
 
Aug 4, 2007
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Jackie,

The only Shogun with a 2.5 diesel is the Shogun Sport. The same diesel engine is now in both the short wheelbase and the long whelbase. I have towed a Wyoming with both swb and lwb. the fuel consumption, full tank to full tank , is 29-31 solo and 20-22 towing. My wife and I both tow and get the same Mpg.

If you are so concerned about the environment you will probably be better off with asmaller caravan and car not 4x4. Large twin axles require large vehicles to tow them.

Hamer
Hi there, thanks again.

No so concerned about the environment just concerned!!

Jackie
 
Dec 7, 2006
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Hi, you could do a lot worse than the new Hyundai Santa Fe 2.2. CRDT. I know that in the PC Towcar supplement they gave it poor marks for towing but I beg to differ. I am a Police trained driver of 30 years experience and am delighted with the car, whether towing or not. I tow an Abbey, 1460 KGs and 'Lane changing' has not been a problem. Choice of vehicle is very much a subjective thing, regardless of what the 'testers' say in their analysis. Any car has to feel right for you. The Santa Fe feels right for me.
 
Mar 14, 2005
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If you're fond of your BMW 320d and don't particularly want a 4x4 but want a suitable towcar for a Wyoming, why not just upgrade to a BMW 525d or 530d?
 
Jul 3, 2006
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Hi Jackie

I am someone who would prefer the taut handling and economy of your BMW to that of an offroader, in reality your BMW is probably just as stable as a lot of much heavier offroaders, do not judge a towcar by weight alone as there are some heavy cars out there with soft offroad suspension that have truly rotten stability when towing. I have towed a 1600kg boat with many vehicles, a BMW530 and a Discovery included, the BMW was easily the most stable and being rear wheel drive had better traction than the front wheel drive vehicles that I have used. Whenever you read threads on this forum about poor stability it always seems to be French saloon cars or 4x4s.

We tow a Lunar Lexon which is the same size as the Wyoming and has a similar mtplm of 1600kg but it's unladen weight is lighter at just 1266kg which is why we prefer Lunars as we are towing with a front wheel drive Ford s-max and it's only a matter of time before traction becomes a problem on a steep junction or muddy field, stability however, is almost too good. The Lunar is a bit nose heavy and we have to put the awning and other heavy items in the rear washroom to get the noseweight down to 75kg and my wife will tend to pack the heavy tinned food and drink in the top lockers, almost everything you're told not to do but even when passing or overtaking high sided trucks and occasionally hitting 70mph, there is never a weave or wiggle. When I bought the Lexon I towed it home with a Transit van and when overtaking trucks I could feel the outfit get pushed out as I drew alongside then "sucked" back in as I got in front but with the s-max there was none of this feeling.

And just to make a few of you jealous regarding the question of how to take a motorbike with you, I rode the bike behind my wife towing the outfit to Harrogate and observing from the rear the outfit was smooth and stable.

Fuel economy for the s-max is 45mpg daily use, 52mpg touring Norfolk and an awful 27mpg towing the Lexon.

I don't mean this post to be a sales pitch for the s-max but as an example of how a lighter car with the right tyres and suspension is every bit, if not more stable than much heavier offroaders.

The other posts are quite right in saying that many 4x4s are no longer or wider than large saloon cars but if you really want to avoid a 4x4, look at a sports orinted saloon such as the 5 series BMW or the Audi A6 Quattro. if you do look at 4x4s, go for models that have big wheel rims and wide, low profile tyres and models that are more SUV rather than dedicated offroader, whilst some 4x4s have poor stability, four wheel drive and low range gearboxes can be very advantageous.
 
Sep 10, 2007
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i picked up my new s 6 wyoming on sat 08/09, i tow it wit a 2.7 terrano 2 when its empty still struggles up detling hill on the 249 in kent . anybody got any ideas why it struggles or am i expecting 2 much. i previously had a louisianna & the car seemed ok ?????
 
Jul 26, 2005
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Looks like youv'e got a prob with yer motor Neil - the current Wyoming and Louisana are identical weights so if it towed the Louis up the same hill faster then somethings happened in between.
 
Sep 10, 2007
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Looks like youv'e got a prob with yer motor Neil - the current Wyoming and Louisana are identical weights so if it towed the Louis up the same hill faster then somethings happened in between.
thanks for your reply looks like another trip to nissans to get it looked @ n
 
May 5, 2005
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tow our senator (1500kg) with a galaxy 04 max manufacturer limit 2000kg and its a dream except on muddy fields which is very rare,lots of room 25/30 towing 40 solo and 7 seats or loads of room.
 

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