On way back from Peterbrough today and listening to good old Jeremy Vine on radio 2,mainly discussing the latest government proposals to modernise 12 train stations at different locations i was suprised to learn that the UK slips 30k further in debt every second of the day.How the UK has turned into a sad senario.I do wonder what will be left for my children.
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Its quite easy to see why we are in debt , i could say quite a lot on the subject ,but the post would be taken off , real freedom of speech is gone in this country of ours , so i will keep my opinions to my self ,My favourite writer in the Daily Express is Leo Mckinstry
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Nearly 3,000,000 unemployed. Give them all a paint brush to do the work...job done.
Nearly 3,000,000 unemployed. Give them all a paint brush to do the work...job done.
Quote ... "My favourite writer in the Daily Express is Leo Mckinstry".
Agree 100% Joby. He should be Prime Minister, Home & Foreign Secretary rolled into one. He says what others fear to say because of complaints from the PC brigade. Patrick O'Flynn isn't far behind him though so I think I'll propose that he gets the job of eliminating those prophets and disciples who go preaching their social engineering doctrine.
All credit to the Express for printing it.
Agree 100% Joby. He should be Prime Minister, Home & Foreign Secretary rolled into one. He says what others fear to say because of complaints from the PC brigade. Patrick O'Flynn isn't far behind him though so I think I'll propose that he gets the job of eliminating those prophets and disciples who go preaching their social engineering doctrine.
All credit to the Express for printing it.
Parksy
Moderator
Here we go again............
I don't want to upset or alienate people -but - we're heading into the murky realms of political debate once again.
If I leave the topic alone completely sooner or later we'll be proposing concentration camps and deportations, hanging and flogging (sounds like the Christmas party at Haymarket Towers)which will provoke complaints and posts accusing moderators of favouring one 'side' over the other.
If I interfere I'll be 'banning free speech' and no doubt I'll be called names on the Quiet Side, not that I'll lose any sleep over that.
Most of us have political views and there are very many websites where these views are welcomed and encouraged.
Practical Caravan magazine is completely non political and people of all beliefs and religions are welcome to buy the magazine, use this website and indeed to go caravanning if they want to.
I understand the original posters dilemma, it's hard not to stray into discussing politics when debating the proposed railway station improvements but I'd be grateful if forum members would stick to generalities and then I would have no need to intervene.
Thanks
I don't want to upset or alienate people -but - we're heading into the murky realms of political debate once again.
If I leave the topic alone completely sooner or later we'll be proposing concentration camps and deportations, hanging and flogging (sounds like the Christmas party at Haymarket Towers)which will provoke complaints and posts accusing moderators of favouring one 'side' over the other.
If I interfere I'll be 'banning free speech' and no doubt I'll be called names on the Quiet Side, not that I'll lose any sleep over that.
Most of us have political views and there are very many websites where these views are welcomed and encouraged.
Practical Caravan magazine is completely non political and people of all beliefs and religions are welcome to buy the magazine, use this website and indeed to go caravanning if they want to.
I understand the original posters dilemma, it's hard not to stray into discussing politics when debating the proposed railway station improvements but I'd be grateful if forum members would stick to generalities and then I would have no need to intervene.
Thanks
Parksy - as a moderater you are damned no matter which way you go. As the old saying goes - you can please some of the people some of the times but not all of the people all of the time.
Now the next question - Who wants to be a moderater? I was aked many years ago and turned it down. Now in this PC world I am glad I turned it down.
Now the next question - Who wants to be a moderater? I was aked many years ago and turned it down. Now in this PC world I am glad I turned it down.
Hi,
Life is all about politics ...... but with a little P.
I once wqrote to an MP (not mine) pointing out that ALL colours promise to improve schools, jobs, health, housing, etc.
I said I would vote for the party who promised to build more public conveniences, and do away with the toll on the Severn Bridge. There was something else, but can't remember what it was.
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Life is all about politics ...... but with a little P.
I once wqrote to an MP (not mine) pointing out that ALL colours promise to improve schools, jobs, health, housing, etc.
I said I would vote for the party who promised to build more public conveniences, and do away with the toll on the Severn Bridge. There was something else, but can't remember what it was.
602
Jobs on the railways are put out to tender,
Therefore, if you got all the unemployed to do the jobs, they would have to be trained, take the rail tests, eyes checked, on the spot drugs/drink tests. It would cost an excessive amount to do this.
Also you would put all the workers and comapnies on the unemployment for changing who does the jobs.
Therefore, if you got all the unemployed to do the jobs, they would have to be trained, take the rail tests, eyes checked, on the spot drugs/drink tests. It would cost an excessive amount to do this.
Also you would put all the workers and comapnies on the unemployment for changing who does the jobs.
Generalities are all very well, but it is inevitable that any conversation containing them will move on to other subjects. That is human nature and regardless of how much anyone tries, it cannot be stopped permanently.
I sit on the bus every day and I listen (although I do not wish to) to conversations between passengers and especially those people who decide to bare all in a mobile telephone conversation. These always start with comments about the weather, work or whether someone has forgotten to take the proposed tea out of the freezer, but very soon always turn to comments (always negative) about work and TV programmes (always pointing out that the judges on a 'game show are numpties, and that the young girl should have won etc). And of course I managed to get 'blootered' last night and have a hangover etc. In Edinburgh the conversation then always moves on to the 'TRAMS' and how anyone could be so stupid to spend over
I sit on the bus every day and I listen (although I do not wish to) to conversations between passengers and especially those people who decide to bare all in a mobile telephone conversation. These always start with comments about the weather, work or whether someone has forgotten to take the proposed tea out of the freezer, but very soon always turn to comments (always negative) about work and TV programmes (always pointing out that the judges on a 'game show are numpties, and that the young girl should have won etc). And of course I managed to get 'blootered' last night and have a hangover etc. In Edinburgh the conversation then always moves on to the 'TRAMS' and how anyone could be so stupid to spend over
Parksy
Moderator
'Although I sympathise with Haymarket I suspect they are trying to hold back the tide, and will fail.'
Actually Scotch Lad it's more of a trickle which if left unchecked soon becomes a tide.
Unlike an eavesdropper on a bus Haymarket have the right to decide what is allowed on their own website.
Actually Scotch Lad it's more of a trickle which if left unchecked soon becomes a tide.
Unlike an eavesdropper on a bus Haymarket have the right to decide what is allowed on their own website.
When you are sitting within 18 inches of someone, 'eavesdropping' is a given, unless you are deaf. It is also a given that most people speak louder when they are on the telephone. Must be a hangover from the old days of Bell & Co. On the positive side it means my 'carbon footprint' is low, and I also learn things I never knew before, even if I did not wish to.
Haymarket can of course do as they wish, as you state, but they also need as broad a market as possible. As many have found throughout history, principles are wonderful things, but they rarely put food on the table. Compromise has invariably been the best solution, as the chairman I am sure knows all too well.
By the way, when are they going to publish their latest financial results? 2007 was a long time ago in the current economic climate. I always like to read these things. I was also amused to see they list Royal Bank of Scotland as one of their brands. Now I know where Fred the Shred was spending all the loot. I also note they organise 'Forums' where people can discuss key subjects in a 'relaxed environment'. When is PC mag going to have one for us???
Haymarket can of course do as they wish, as you state, but they also need as broad a market as possible. As many have found throughout history, principles are wonderful things, but they rarely put food on the table. Compromise has invariably been the best solution, as the chairman I am sure knows all too well.
By the way, when are they going to publish their latest financial results? 2007 was a long time ago in the current economic climate. I always like to read these things. I was also amused to see they list Royal Bank of Scotland as one of their brands. Now I know where Fred the Shred was spending all the loot. I also note they organise 'Forums' where people can discuss key subjects in a 'relaxed environment'. When is PC mag going to have one for us???
Parksy
Moderator
Scotch Lad
The best way to find the answers to your questions is to contact Haymarket.
Principles are indeed wonderful things and as far as I'm aware Haymarket stick to their principle of publishing a caravan magazine with this forum hosted by it and leave the politics for their other publications and forums.
Of course the magazine needs a broad customer base but not all of their subscribers are obsessed by politics to the extent that they insist on foisting theirs onto the rest of us via a caravan forum.
It is not possible to compromise over much on a forum of this nature because whatever happens somebody will get wound up and there are some who delight in winding up others.
The best way to find the answers to your questions is to contact Haymarket.
Principles are indeed wonderful things and as far as I'm aware Haymarket stick to their principle of publishing a caravan magazine with this forum hosted by it and leave the politics for their other publications and forums.
Of course the magazine needs a broad customer base but not all of their subscribers are obsessed by politics to the extent that they insist on foisting theirs onto the rest of us via a caravan forum.
It is not possible to compromise over much on a forum of this nature because whatever happens somebody will get wound up and there are some who delight in winding up others.
Like the two characters played by Harry Enfield and Paul Whitehouse, conversing in a pub, where one (Harry) always gets 'wound up' and starts puffing out his chest and ranting!
All us women wind up is you men! (Oh, and knitting wool of course)??!!
All us women wind up is you men! (Oh, and knitting wool of course)??!!
Hi,
There was the story of the bloke sitting in a public convenience.
"Hullo" say the bloke in the next stall.
"Hullo" replies our hero.
A conversation develops, though doesn't always make sense.... Eventually the bloke in next cubicle says -
"Look, I'm going to have to ring off, the bloke next to me keeps interupting"
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There was the story of the bloke sitting in a public convenience.
"Hullo" say the bloke in the next stall.
"Hullo" replies our hero.
A conversation develops, though doesn't always make sense.... Eventually the bloke in next cubicle says -
"Look, I'm going to have to ring off, the bloke next to me keeps interupting"
602
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