Neill, we are also looking at this area for our first trip abroad next year, last week of july first week of august, like you we will be travelling with other vans all three being just short of 8 meters. ive enquired with the clubs and also with sites abroad and a few other "specialists" and had come to the conclusion that it was just too expensive since we where being quoted anything up to 1800 pounds with fuel and tolls on top it was much cheaper to get a package tour. However i decided to try and book everything myself starting with the ferry, what a shock poole to cherbourg 756.00 for a five hour sailing tried some of the other routes all far too expensive, then out of desperation i tried euro tunnel found it very easy to use the web site and got a quote for the 05 58 sailing of 98.00 the same fare was quoted for the return. now i can handle 196.00 return and its only an hour and a half on the train, ok its an extra 250 mile drive to the vendee but ive saved 3 1/2 hours on the ferry and no way will it cost me 550.00 in fuel (more like 50.00). so thats the crossing sorted now the site, the only sites i can get any reasonable quotes from are the ones owned by st jean de monts, 1; camping les amiaux 2; camping acapulco 3; les places dorees. all the sites seem quite lively which is what we want with 6 teenagers going with us. all the other sites i have looked at will not give quotes online and im a bit reluctant to ring as my french is limited to 0 so i am hitting my head on the wall again. if any body can give any advice on any of the sites that Neill or myself have named i would be very gratefull or indeed if you know of a site that you think would be ideal let us know. ps, euro tunnel accept car and caravan combinations up to a total of 18 meters long and charge no extra as long as you are within this limit.